Fauzia’s Rejection

Re: # 283

hamidm saheb,

Looks like at your age your memory doesn`t serve you as it should.

As in my interactions with you, I never fire the first shot. But, to expect that one`s opponent cannot respond his/her wise-ass remarks is his/her own folly.

If you notice the entire thread on this board, I consistently kept forgiving people for repeated unawrranted offenses of the ``progressive`` kind. But you have to understand that there`s always a line that must not be crossed lest a retaliation is provoked.

Nice try on your part, though.

Considering your frail disposition, I`ll overlook the last couple of remarks in your post.

Re: # 282

SS,

To her devastating dismay, in your case she seems to have been revealed to more than she had hoped for.

;-)~~

Re: # 280 by sajal

sajal bibi,

With all due respect to your political correct ``ounchi zaat``, read his post #273 again and tell me if he was NOT reaching for my jewels.

May be you`re unable to see that I STILL did not reciprocrate in his foul manner; not because there`s a shortage of such vocabulary here.

If I remember correctly, you`re the one who eloquently defined the woman as per Quran. Let me remind you your own concept of woman, albeit in different words:

A woman is the God`s manifestation of His love for His creations. She is

* a selfless mother - under whose feet lies paradise
* a loving sister - who cries more for her brother`s anguish than her own and is more happier than him on his success
* a loyal wife - who is the best friend a man can have; who cares for his heart more than her own
* a daughter - who is a culmination of all of the above in addition to being a manifestation of her father`s sensitivities and softer side; whose one drop of tear turns his life upside down.

And you`re saying that a ``confused`` gay can emulate women described above?

That he`s not rendering women as mere sex objects by:
- either pretending to be a woman for other men?
OR
- pretending/seeking/asking other men to serve him as women?

Are you too blind to see that?

All he can emulate is a deviant, a hooker, a wench, a walking-talking wholesale shop of diseases in bulk....not a woman!

If it wasn`t for a woman he wouldn`t even exist, and now his ilk has the audacity to degrade women the way they do?

Do you still think his objectification of women, including my mother, sisters, wife, daughter, is still his personal business?

Puhhhhhhhh-leeeeezzzzz!

Do you think (ma`z Allah) Allah was not paying attention when He created him as a man and you as a woman?

Why do you think Allah created men and women as He has created?

Why do you think Allah made sodomy HARAAM with one`s own wives?

So quit breaking my heart over a self-made nut-case.

Life IS about choices. But to counter the Nature, as Allah has designed and created it (including men an women), is not any more of a choice than choosing to disbelief in Allah or to commit murder or rape.

Hopefully your ilk may have learned NOT to do what you preach here, i.e. demean, degrade, humor the ones who have a different opinion than yours. In this case, the religiously inclined who oppose western decadence to be imposed on them.

You sir, are a piece of work , all he said was he is confused that does not mean he will start clapping like a bandar ( maybe he should take lessons from you as you do it so well my dear NT sahib).
Again, considering your tender age and sheltered life, and because you`re a woman like my mother, sisters, wife, and daughter, I`ll let it slide!

Re: # 279 by temporal

#1- now read your own answer and do the LOL bit and ROFTL too...

LOL ...are you sure underlined the sentence you wanted to? May be your hands are shaking too much out of hapless seething........ROTFL (sorry, can`t help it)

Let me help you....again (rolling my eyes):

What makes you think that YOU are following the Quran in ``spirit``?

For those you mention, disprespecting Allah, or anything to do with Allah, is more infuriating than if they are personally disrespected....regardless of whether they can read arabic/urdu/english or any language, or not.

More likely than not, they do not have an opportunity to do so, i.e. read, for any number of reasons in a blighted war-ravaged country. On the other hand, what excuse do you have to follow the Quran in ``selective spirit``?

Anyway, that`s why they are a million-times dearer to Allah than the ``murtads`` who renege on their pledge to Allah.

That`s why they are a million-times dearer to Allah than ``munafiqun`` who break their pledge to Allah but remind and expect of Him to keep His.


#2- now repeat the LOL and ROFTL bit

Read the following, take a deep breath, and weep harder:

The answer has been given numerous times on another board, i.e. ``it`s an inherently flawed question as it excludes the authentic ahadith``. Therefore, a flawed question can only be corrected; not answered until it is corrected.

Following the answer on the other board, your position on the Prophet (pbuh) and his authentic ahadith was asked to be clarified. Consistently you seem out of any words in that respect.

Read, take deep breaths, and weep heartily again.

I`m well aware of the translations you`ve posted. Apparently the following is very advanced stuff for you, but since you`ve asked for it....

The hallmark of unbelievers, disbelievers, non-believer, and selective believers is to seek shelter in quranic verses when their mischief is exposed and paid attention to.

More often than not, the verses they quote are out of context.

More often than not, they quote verses for specific situations and seek a blanket interpretation that would maintain their confortable ``gray zone``; and vice versa

In this case, all these verses are referring to law & order viz murder when there`s no struggle to counter an end the unwarranted oppression like the ones ongoing in Palestine, Afghanistan, Iraq, etc.

Arre nt sahib, aap to bilkul hil gaye.

I asked you why you didnt move to Iran and you started talking to me about Samina. Then about temporal. Then you give me a translation of your incomprehensible post ... and it is STILL incomprehensible - coz it has nothing to do with what I asked you. I dont care if all Muslims move to Iran - I am wondering why YOU didnt move to Iran.

Simple sa question hai - when you had a chance and still have a chance to move to the best Islamic country, why did you choose instead a westernized Islamic country? The only almost reasonable answer you gave is that Allah didnt deem it fit - but I already replied to that.

In fact I have answered everything you put to me - on this subject - but you still havent answered this simple one. Why is that?

Re: # 250

Thank you for the update.

Why did she decide to stay with this guy? Since you are her confidant and a friend probably, I am sure you would know the details.

The wise woman who shared with me her perspective was quite right. Wise women like to have a few good men in their lives. They do not lean on only one man. After all, Allah Taa`la has not created any man 100% perfect. And it`s incumbent upon women to seek for that perfection.

ntsyed,

........ you really are a piece of art ! ...... just because you have made peace with your god and are feeling smug about having lined up forty buxom houris, or ten pretty boys, does not mean that you should go around abusing people who don`t share your jihadi fervor ......... why don`t you go down to the cyclone club and see if you can find a nice russian or iranian girl to calm you down - i am sure you have taken many clients to that place ........

Re: 278

NtSyed Sahib,

My grandmother used to say,
Handiya sey Dhakna Utha aur Kuttay ki Zaat pehchani gayi.

The lid from the Pot came off and the Dog revealed his nature.

I think this says it all. What can I say?

Temporaljee, ShoreSahib:

Out of the deepest regard for both of you, please don’t take this man’s bait. Forget it. The two of you are in an entirely different league of men and you shouldn’t even dignify anything with a comment. Honestly, I can’t even bear to read this stuff. I’m sitting here aghast!

rgds
Miriam

Re: # 278

NT sahib,

Shore sahib`s sexuality is his personal business nothing for you to make fun of................
Apni kamzaat mat dikhayee .........that post was extremely derogatory.

You sir, are a piece of work , all he said was he is confused that does not mean he will start clapping like a bandar ( maybe he should take lessons from you as you do it so well my dear NT sahib).

Life is about choices and confusion, we work through those to get where we are in life. But app to wali Allah hain app ko to koi problem nahi tabhi to app SS ka mazaq bana rahe hain............

Dear Shore Sahib, do not take notice of NT as that was the ravings and rantings of a misguided fool........Take your time and make the choices right for you whatever those are......................................

#277:

* what do you think of muslims who do not read arabic, nor understand it, nor follow qur`anic guidelines in spirit going on a rampage?

They`re a million times better than murtads who never read a word of Quran and seek to change it. They are more dearer to Allah for taking a stand in spite of being faced with most advanced militaries, than the murtads who whimper away with their tails tucked between their shivering legs.

now read your own answer and do the LOL bit and ROFTL too...


** is suicide bombing allowed in the qur`an?

you still do not have the courage of your misplaced convictions to give an honest straight forward answer...

now repeat the LOL and ROFTL bit

after you have calmed down check out the qur`an 004.093

YUSUFALI: If a man kills a believer intentionally, his recompense is Hell, to abide therein (For ever): And the wrath and the curse of Allah are upon him, and a dreadful penalty is prepared for him.
PICKTHAL: Whoso slayeth a believer of set purpose, his reward is hell for ever. Allah is wroth against him and He hath cursed him and prepared for him an awful doom.
SHAKIR: And whoever kills a believer intentionally, his punishment is hell; he shall abide in it, and Allah will send His wrath on him and curse him and prepare for him a painful chastisement.

now, i would NOT suggest the same LOL remedy...out of respect for the qur`an...

rgds

t

Re: # 273 by ShoreSahib


LOL....do you just immitate the chakka party or are one yourself? Oh, that`s right, you`re an undecided major yet. lol

Did you clap your hands in that unique style too when you typed your post? lol

Must`ve been funny to see you do that.

BTW, Mein to sirf therapy se anger-management mein unki madad ker raha hoon.

unki izzat ko aap zyada uchhal rahay hain, chichora rung de ker.

lekin ye baat aap ko tab samajh aye jub aap k zehen se jinsiyat kharij ho chuki ho.

Re: # 272 by temporal on May 23, 2005 1:24pm PT


* what did amrita say to rile you so much?
May be she said you`re a limp noodle, may be she didn`t

* do you laugh heartily at your own jokes?
May be I do, may be I don`t....may be I`m still laughing at your indignant haplessness or may be I`m not.

* what do you think of qur`an desecration?
Muslims who selectively believe in it to please the disciples of Satan have allowed it and Allah will hold them to account in His own way in this world and hereafter

* what do you think of muslims who do not read arabic, nor understand it, nor follow qur`anic guidelines in spirit going on a rampage?
They`re a million times better than murtads who never read a word of Quran and seek to change it. They are more dearer to Allah for taking a stand in spite of being faced with most advanced militaries, than the murtads who whimper away with their tails tucked between their shivering legs.

and finally

* is suicide bombing allowed in the qur`an?
LOL.....you`re still sizzling over that one, aren`t you kitty-cat?..............ROFTL

or is it another mighty big hairball rising in your throat? ROTFL

ps: do you know the synonym for kittens that starts with P?........LOL

ntsyed sahib:
thanks alot for the detailed reply. Islam`s way of life as professed and embodied by the Last Prophet is totally different from a liberal democratic setup. All those arguments have been delineated and gone over many times - so i find it not surprising that we have a fundamental disagreement on who is the Ultimate source of Power.

For Mohammad`s system/Islam - it is God (which you allude to the Higher wisdom that claims superior guidance to Humans) - for a Deomcratic setup it is the People and only the People without an iota of possibility of entertaining any metaphysical thing to interfere in the public space.

I would like to agree to disagree with you, here.

have a good one.
many thanks.

Re: # 269

Amrita,

Get the papers ready and get Nyet Sahib to a shaadi salon! ;)

See Amrita, I told you......... she wants me. LOL

#273:

precise and well articulated post on the qur`an board

allah rey zoar e qal`m aur zyadah...

(tr: may God give more power to your pen)

t