Compounded Waste

harimau meow-meow (no, it is not growl growl):

on second thought, naaah forget it!

ana

Re: # 51

I`ll give America whatever credit you wish - but you have to admit that the nuke option was unnecessary and America itself admitted so. My point is that the kind of devastation that nukes can unleash today [and personally I dont trust China as far as I can throw it, bhai bhai or no bhai bhai] is much greater than the H&N ones. Japan`s achevements are wonderful but they werent headed in a dramatically different direction without the bomb. And also, India and Pakistan are no Japan and America are they?

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Harimou - post was a perfect example of bubble living and wishful thinking: you`re firing potshots at random and hoping something will stick in my craw. Well, try again... an LGBT parade isnt my weak spot.

harimau #52

`` Don`t you have a Gay/Lesbo parade to march in this weekend? ``

what is wrong in marching in a gay/lesbain parade ?

Ref amrita #50

Don`t you have a Gay/Lesbo parade to march in this weekend?

amrita #34

`` Jang - we completely differ on the proven efficiency of nuclear bombs. First of all that was a 50 kilotonne bomb that was dropped on H&N - the average bomb today is 150 kilotonne. H&N were relatively small potatoes compared to say Bombay, the primary target if Pakistan decides to bomb India. The kind of devastation that can come in its wake was actually calculated by an Indian prof from MIT I think, lemme know and I`ll find out the name - its very intersting and all the more shocking when you think its a conservative estimate. So the only efficiency, to me, is in bringing death and perhaps as a deterrent. People are actually rethinking the deterrent angle right now. ``

The yield of the Indian nukes was 45 kT. Pakistani nukes had yields ranging from 6kT to 15 KT. I doubt Pakistan has 150 kT nuke unless China gave them the design.

`` The nuclear option was unnecessary in Japan, as has been admitted by the Allied forces and esp America repeatedly. Yes, it hastened the end but analysts and military historians have always agreed that the war wouldnt have lasted much longer and once the war was over, the Japanese were anyway headed right where they are today. Minus the deformed babies, the new caste of untouchables [the descendants of H&N arent welcome to marry into most `untainted` families irrespective of their visible health], the inceased rates of cancer, shortened life expectancies and rare diseases. The nukes were an experiment and they were a tool to humiliate. They werent a favor of any kind and you`ll never find a Japanese person who`d say so.``

Give America the credit of rebuilding their old adversary into a powerful peaceful country. Japan is the second most powerful state in the world. Please show us something comparable in history.

Awww… I seem to have touched all kinds of nerves. You see, what you will never understand is that you’ve become irrelevant before you were ever able to establish your relevancy thanks entirely to your own efforts. All you can do is piss into the wind and cackle like a hyena in the vain hope that a little of the spray will make it in the direction you pointed it at.

You are welcome to think what you wish about my life and my contribution to the world or how much of it I have seen – it makes absolutely no difference to me because I know what I have accomplished and there are a lot of people around the world [who matter a great deal more than a little pissant like you] who also know what I have accomplished and in the end, that is what matters the most. I am not looking for validation from you or your kind. So your hopeful imprecations only serve to show you up for the irrelevant rabid dog that you are. And I say this not in a fit of anger or in a hope to put you down, mind you – but as a dispassionate observer of your silly antics. Please don’t ever think I am angry at you – amused yes, occasionally irritated, I frequently ignore you too but I have yet to be angered by you. I keep my anger for those who matter.

I tell you what – I am willing to look into the eyes of any person whose life my views may affect or about whose life I have an opinion, and repeat every one of my views to their face and defend them too. I have the guts and the conviction and it extends far beyond my taxes and posts on a website. How about you? In post 40 you made some noises – about the people of Dharavi, liberals and MV Ramanna.

I put it to you that the only group or person out of those three that you will be willing to repeat your suggestions to, face to face, are the liberals. And that too, only if you’re sure that they don’t belong to the radical left and aren’t your equivalents on the left. The day you can put a face to your inane suggestions and have the guts to repeat face to face your convictions to the people you hope to affect [and this means you go to Dharavi and tell em - severally and individually - how your solution to their problem is a nuclear explosion and to Allahabad and tell em how you`re tired of them being illiterate and what they need is a bomb] – come back and we’ll talk and I`ll help set up the meetings in both cities.

Oh I forgot – you don’t know how to talk…. All you can do is rant and rave and when you’re shown up in that you begin to froth and then you want to kill em all but don’t have the guts for it and do a sudden volte face and offer lines like “the only rational thing…vote for political parties”. Bah!

Am I supposed to get upset when something like you gets in my face? High hopes.

Ref American Rita #42

[Harimou - the real difference between you and the jehadis you profess to despise is that they have the connections and sufficient daring to carry out their fantasies. You, on the other hand, are only capable of talking and talking and talking and talking and.... And you arent even very good at that or else you would have accomplished enough at your age to stop frothing at the mouth every time someone has an opinion differing from yours.]

Actually, I do support my opinions the only legally correct way: contribute to political parties/candidates that mostly agree with my viewpoints. Also, my taxes have paid for the F-16s that Pakistan received and will again receive in the future so that I can claim to have supported at least some part of my wishes to nuke Bombay.

You on the other hand are the archetype of the hand-wringing, fund-raising through bake sale, street matching liberal who hasn`t accomplished squat for all her efforts. I wouldn`t be surprised if your favorite candidate during the last Presidential election was Dennis Kucinich. Your personal efforts at bridge-building with our neighbors through a Bangladeshi boyfriend also seem to have come to naught both on the personal front and on the political front as can be seen by the killing of an Indian oficer by Bangladesh.

Frothing at the mouth is the result of congregating with rabid Commie/Liberal/Secularist dogs. All your friends would belong to this category with the exception of the Iraqi ragheads that you would have picked up in the last three years.

[Anyhoo, it appears you never leave your state or read the paper or watch TV because its pretty common knowledge that there is considerably more to Bbay than Dharavi - there are the thousands of commuters who come into the city to work as well as all those hardworking millions who`ve already made Bbay their home, for eg.]

Have you ventured outside Greenwich Village, NYC? Shut up and don`t talk about things you are clueless about, which is almost everything. As far as the hardworking Mumbaikars and the commuters, they are replaceable cogs in the wheel too. If they go up in smoke, that is no skin off my nose.

As I used to tell North Indians, the only trouble with the Indian nuclear tests was that they were carried out underground. Low-altitude tests over Allahabad would have accomplished so much more! Can you think of a single weapon more powerful against illiteracy? I don`t think so!

[Right - now go back to your comfortable rants and dream a little dream where only your irrelevant opinion carries weight.]

Yep, it is because of your street demonstrations that yesterday Bush announced that he is withdrawing from Iraq.

``Compunded waste`` describes you to a T.

ntsyed (re #44):

“… Very simple - live and let live! …

Apply this rule to people of other faiths also. Insisting that some circumstances require that they be killed … is hypocrisy.

…. if some wish to live in the 7th century arabia, why is it a problem for anyone …”

And if someone wishes to leave Islam … why is it a problem for you? You’d rather have this person killed for apostasy. Same goes for blasphemy (recall your support for the recorded “pregnant slave” hadith).

Ummah is reaping what it sowed. This would be a good time to reflect. Sahib, temporal is one of the most thoughtful person around. Efforts such as his at waking people’s conscience are probably ummah’s last hope out of the quagmire they are in. Don’t upset the only civilized guy on your side …

[… didn’t mean to put you on the spot, t bhai … magar yaar, haramee-pun ke bhe hud hoti hai …]

#44:

I`m sure your two eyes would want to pop out of your head.

am moved by your concern for my vision

now, you answer the query that haimd mir asked osama ...with the ayah number, please...then we will talk more....

rgds,

t

harimou, dharavi is a very productive multi-purpose residential-cum-industrial-cum shopping zone, and its GDP is more than that of chennai, code-coolies included. why would you want to nuke it?

Re: # 44

CORRECTION:

immorality, beards, veils, blah blah blan

was meant to be: ``...immorality, shave the beards, and shed the veils, blah blah blah``

Re: # 12

shishapa: While you can get rid of likes of GWB`s peacefully or have to endure them probably not more than 8 or 12 years, how do you get rid of OBLs?

Very simple - live and let live!

Most N American and Europeans understand and appreciate diverse cultures. But the few, influential individuals & groups (public and private) wish for Muslims to live like the non-Muslims in terms of lifestyles - interest infested banking, unbridled commercialization via sex and violence, immorality, beards, veils, blah blah blan. The Muslims were doing just fine until the former colonial masters started using the dictators` tyranny - the very bastards they had left behind to oppress the people on their behalf - to subjugate the whole people again for the sake of resources and power.

Even now, if some wish to live in the 7th century arabia, why is it a problem for anyone who wishes to live any other era - past, present, or future? The problem starts when one tries to force a parallelogram into an square slot. The oppressed masses, not just Muslims, if you care to look around the world, had to rise up sooner or later. In a dark sort of way I think we`re fortunate to witness it so our next generations (if survived) could live in a relative peace, as is the case with every storm or confrontation.

The problem with temporal lot is that they submitted to slavery back then, and they continue to submit now. Thus you see the ``need`` to change the value system vis a vis Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, and whatever else that doesn`t allow the tyrannical few CIAs & GWBs of the world to jeopardize the survival of the entire species for a few quick bucks. Naturally, there will be OBL - right or wrong - to counter those forces. Like the latter said in one of his recent videos, stop messing with us and you will not be messed with. I suppose temporal was comatose when that solution made the headlines.

temporal, please use your research skills to dig up the truth on 9/11, Salvadoran Option, who benefits most with the sectarian violence, why it would not be good for the US to leave Iraq and the ME altogether. I`m sure your two eyes would want to pop out of your head.

Without the proper knowledge you sound worse than a broken record of rhetorics...more like a phata baans begging only for presonal attention and nothing else.

Re: # 9

hamidm2:

america must stay the course, even if it takes fity years - this is not any different than the struggle against communism ........ freedom comes at a cost ........

LOL... what perverted pleasure do get by torturing the young & the restless wanna be intellectuals? Can`t you see from temporal`s essay that he`s in extreme pain?

Re: # 40

Harimou - the real difference between you and the jehadis you profess to despise is that they have the connections and sufficient daring to carry out their fantasies. You, on the other hand, are only capable of talking and talking and talking and talking and.... And you arent even very good at that or else you would have accomplished enough at your age to stop frothing at the mouth every time someone has an opinion differing from yours.

Anyhoo, it appears you never leave your state or read the paper or watch TV because its pretty common knowledge that there is considerably more to Bbay than Dharavi - there are the thousands of commuters who come into the city to work as well as all those hardworking millions who`ve already made Bbay their home, for eg.

Right - now go back to your comfortable rants and dream a little dream where only your irrelevant opinion carries weight.

This ``Compounded Waste`` has elicited 41 interacts(including mine).I lost a bet i made with a friend of mine whom i forced to read this essay for the purpose of betting on the no.of interacts.I now have to buy dinner also.Drats.

Ref amrita #34

[.... First of all that was a 50 kilotonne bomb that was dropped on H&N - the average bomb today is 150 kilotonne.]

The bombs are estimated to be at 12 kilotons and 20 kilotons for Hiroshima and Nagasaki respectively.

[H&N were relatively small potatoes compared to say Bombay, the primary target if Pakistan decides to bomb India. The kind of devastation that can come in its wake was actually calculated by an Indian prof from MIT I think, lemme know and I`ll find out the name - its very intersting and all the more shocking when you think its a conservative estimate. So the only efficiency, to me, is in bringing death and perhaps as a deterrent. People are actually rethinking the deterrent angle right now.]

You mean Dharavi, the pride of you frikking liberals and self-proclaimed do-gooders as the biggest slum in Asia, will get wiped out and also sterilized in the bargain? I think we should PAY Pakistan to nuke Bombay. Let Teesta Setalvad and Medha Patkar go to the Supreme Court ex post facto and try to get an injunction! Ha, ha, ha!

Is that peacenik you are talking about M V Ramana? Mount him on top of the nosecone of the Pak missile delivering The Bomb to Bombay, I say!