Poverty creation - Maharashtra ishtyle

haideri # 104

Devadasi system accounts for only a small supply of prostitutes. I would guess under 5%. It is not like anyone is actively supporting or defending the system.

If you want to complain about social ills prostitution in general and spread of AIDS are more pressing concerns.

#110
``Bus and truck owners don`t want to pay the toll so you rarely see a bus or a truck on the Bombay-Pune Expressway``

Admittedly it has taken a few years to take off, but when I was there last winter the tollway was used very heavily. It seems that the railways are planning to reduce services as people now prefer take buses on the Bombay Pune route, all of which now use the tollway. Can you imagine that, the Deccan Queen goes half-empty!

With improving roads and cheaper airline tickets the railways are going to increasingly lose their near-monopoly on long distance trave

Ref haideri #89

[Avenger, you can dream on. It is not a fenced highway and your Gao matas can cross it left and right. Pay attention to the pics I posted the highway is fenced.]

No need to fence along most of Bombay-Pune highway. It goes through desolate hilly land with not a human settlement in sight between Panvel and the outskirts of Pune except for the town of Lonavla. I have been on the road several times and never saw any animal, not even a leopard from the hills!

Just FYI.

Ref jang #88

[those expressway pics are amazing.. no hyundai-santros (or any other cars, except for the lonely TRAX milk-wagon) that indian roads are claimed to be full of. whats wrong with this picture?]

Bus and truck owners don`t want to pay the toll so you rarely see a bus or a truck on the Bombay-Pune Expressway. Most car owners have the perverted idea that spending anywhere from 5 - 9 hours on the old rutted roads is cheaper than paying the toll and getting to Pune in less than 3 hours. So the roads are clear for those willing to pay a few bucks of toll and you can zip along at 80+ mph. I guess the Santros are so fast that their image doesn`t register on the film!

Well, maybe I should have taken my camera along this morning to show you a picture of a Ferrari (license plate number TN07AK55) on the East Coast Road from Chennai to Pondicherry. On weekends, you see the Ferrari racing a Porsche and a Jaguar.

A Jaguar!! Does that mean the Headshrinker is in India now?

Haideri, I was just pulling your leg.

Peace.

Mr. Haideri seems to have gone nuts.

He thinks India is rich and civilized because it has the practice of Devdasi in its society.

No sir. India is rich and civilized inspite of it. Such practices are heinous.

Pakistan needs to be civilized pronto. God knows what kind of society Pakistan is that it looks up to the Devdasi system.

Re: # 107

MaheshG2,

I don`t need any sanity certification from you. I am sure people on this site understand sarcasm. Also, India is neither ``rich`` nor ``civilized`` with current standards.

#104.. mr Haideri, considering you are familiar with the trade, you would know the answer. my impression was that the devdasi system contributes very small or negligible % of workers at this point due to various reasons like large influx of workers from nepal and bangla desh and other parts of india, decline in devdasi patronage from traditional landlords and temples in the source villages, which have caused breakdown and migration of devdasi families.

i understand that even lata mangeshkar has devdasi roots?

Re: # 105

Jang,

I don`t know the intricate details. This is something which I came to know duing my sojourn in India.

haideri,
Just like you are happy with Pakistan, we are happy with India.

By the way, the practise of devadasi though bad is many times better than honour killing.

#96 by haideri on May 13, 2005 11:26am PT
Re: # 95

India`s 944 580 000 inhabitants live in an area of 3 287 590 km²

In 1951, 164 million Indians were living in poverty
compared to 312 million in 1993-94.

.....The first statement is correct.The second statement is old news.The US has proportionately as many AIDS cases.You would run to live there wouldn`t you, if you aren`t already there.The poverty ratio is 26% right now.Give us another decade, we`ll bring it down even further.Also, child prostitution and other evils exist in all countries, including yours.How about polygamists and others in the US too?.P**S OFF.Disgruntled , jealous puki.Now you`re resorting ot digging up stale dirt on India.

Re: # 97

I was trying to draw your attention to the ``civilized`` practice of Devdasi. nothing else. I am very happy in Pakistan.FYI, I have lived/studied both in US and Sweden.

Re: # 98

Let`s do a comparison, shall we?

PAKISTAN
Area
total: 803,940 sq km
land: 778,720 sq km
water: 25,220 sq km

http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/pk.html

INDIA
Area:
total: 3,287,590 sq km
land: 2,973,190 sq km
water: 314,400 sq km

http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/in.html

Pakland is 1/4th the size of my country, and this &*^% has the.....!@#$%

Re: # 101

cayenne,

I never said India was a banana republic. India is an ancient society with a rich history. I am just trying to send a message that ``Don`t try to misinform people``. I have worked in India during late nineties for an NGO. I know ground realities much better than you are trying to portray. I can`t give you references from my own studies because that would be very unprofessional and against my contract. FYI, I am a US citizen

Rep # 93

There are no dhobi ghats in any ``Rich and Civilized`` nation in the world. I got to preach on.

Re: # 94

There are `dhobi ghats` in rich and old civilized nations.Such as mine.Old habits do die hard.P**s off.