Poverty creation - Maharashtra ishtyle

Re: # 105

Jang,

I don`t know the intricate details. This is something which I came to know duing my sojourn in India.

haideri,
Just like you are happy with Pakistan, we are happy with India.

By the way, the practise of devadasi though bad is many times better than honour killing.

#96 by haideri on May 13, 2005 11:26am PT
Re: # 95

India`s 944 580 000 inhabitants live in an area of 3 287 590 km²

In 1951, 164 million Indians were living in poverty
compared to 312 million in 1993-94.

.....The first statement is correct.The second statement is old news.The US has proportionately as many AIDS cases.You would run to live there wouldn`t you, if you aren`t already there.The poverty ratio is 26% right now.Give us another decade, we`ll bring it down even further.Also, child prostitution and other evils exist in all countries, including yours.How about polygamists and others in the US too?.P**S OFF.Disgruntled , jealous puki.Now you`re resorting ot digging up stale dirt on India.

Re: # 97

I was trying to draw your attention to the ``civilized`` practice of Devdasi. nothing else. I am very happy in Pakistan.FYI, I have lived/studied both in US and Sweden.

Re: # 98

Let`s do a comparison, shall we?

PAKISTAN
Area
total: 803,940 sq km
land: 778,720 sq km
water: 25,220 sq km

http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/pk.html

INDIA
Area:
total: 3,287,590 sq km
land: 2,973,190 sq km
water: 314,400 sq km

http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/in.html

Pakland is 1/4th the size of my country, and this &*^% has the.....!@#$%

Re: # 101

cayenne,

I never said India was a banana republic. India is an ancient society with a rich history. I am just trying to send a message that ``Don`t try to misinform people``. I have worked in India during late nineties for an NGO. I know ground realities much better than you are trying to portray. I can`t give you references from my own studies because that would be very unprofessional and against my contract. FYI, I am a US citizen

Rep # 93

There are no dhobi ghats in any ``Rich and Civilized`` nation in the world. I got to preach on.

Re: # 94

There are `dhobi ghats` in rich and old civilized nations.Such as mine.Old habits do die hard.P**s off.

Re: # 95

Are you on some kinda drugs ``civilized nation`` dweller. Read this article below.


CHILD PROSTITUTION IN INDIA

Child prostitution is the ultimate denial of the rights of the child.``
(Dr Jon E Rhode, UNICEF representative in India).

India`s 944 580 000 inhabitants live in an area of 3 287 590 km², with an expectation that the
population will reach 1 billion in May. Almost a quarter of this total are under 18 years of age.
25% of the population live in urban areas and this is estimated to be growing annually at just
over 1%. Over population and lack of education in nutrition and health contribute to the deaths
of around 11 000 children each day. In 1951, 164 million Indians were living in poverty
compared to 312 million in 1993-94.
There are estimated to be over 900 000 sex workers in India. 30% are believed to be children.
Recent reports estimate that the number of children involved in prostitution is increasing at 8
to10% per annum.
About 15% of the prostitutes in Mumbai (Bombay), Delhi, Madras, Calcutta, Hyderabad and
Bangalore are children. It is estimated that 30%of the prostitutes in these six cities are under 20
years of age. Nearly half of them became commercial sex workers when they were minors.
Conservative estimates state that around 300 000 children in India are suffering commercial
sexual abuse, which includes working in pornography.
In one study of 456 sex workers in Mumbai who had been `rescued` by police in February 1996, a
fifth were under 18 years and two-thirds were under 20. The main obstacle in the cracking down
on child prostitution for the police is the issue of rehabilitation and where to place and reintegrate
all the children that they rescue.
ROOTS:
The problem of child prostitution in India is more complicated than in other Third World
countries where it is directly related to sex tourism. In India, sexual exploitation of children has
its roots in traditional practices, beliefs and gender discrimination.
According to some research, child prostitution is socially acceptable in some sections of Indian
society through the practice of Devdasi. Young girls are given to the `gods` and they become a
religious prostitute. There are believed to be around 3 300 devdasis in Belguam area alone.
Devdasi is banned by the Prohibition of Dedication Act of 1982. Parents or guardians dedicating
their girls are liable to five years in jail and a Rs5 000 (approximately £71) fine.
AGE:
According to a madam in Kamatipura, the average age of girls supplied to the brothels in the last
two years has decreased from 14 and 16 years to 10 and 14 years. A girl between 10 and 12 years
fetches the highest price.
AIDS:
The fear of HIV/AIDS has increased the demand for virgins and children. Clients mistakenly
believe that children have fewer chances of contracting the disease. Similarly there is the myth
that a man can rid himself of sexually transmitted diseases if he sleeps with a virgin.
Recent Indian Government statistics put the number of people infected with HIV at 3.5million,
indicating approximately three out of every 100 Indians are now infected with the virus which
leads to AIDS. Almost 9 out of 10 of those people are below 45 years old.
TRAFFICKING:
About 7,000 sex workers cross over from Nepal into India every year. 66% of the girls are from
families where the annual income is about Rs5 000. They may be sold by their parents, deceived
with promises of marriage or a lucrative job or kidnapped and sold to brothel owners. Between
40 - 50% are believed to be under 18, the age of consent in India, some are as young as 9 or 10
years old.
RURAL ISSUE:
Child sex workers are not confined to big cities. A survey in Bihar revealed that roadside
brothels for truck drivers in the Aurangabad and Sasaram districts offered sex workers aged
between 6 and 18 years.
CASE EXAMPLES
• Meena was married off at 12. Soon after she was taken to Delhi by her husband, where
she found out that he was a pimp. In the last three years, she has serviced up to six clients
a night. The major part of her earnings goes to pay rent on the little room, the rest goes to
her husband.
• Rita was sold at 9 years old. She washed and cooked for a madam in Delhi for a few
months until a client wanted a virgin. Two years later, she barely talks to anyone and
spends most of her spare time painting flowers.
• Maya, 10, was taken to Gorakhpur in Uttar Pradesh by her aunt who was paid Rs 3 000.
When she refused to have sex with a client, she was locked in a room for two days,
scared with snakes and beaten unconscious. When she came around she was raped by the
client. Four years on, Maya lives in the red-light area of Mumbai. Her two year old
spends the night in a crèche run by a social service organisation. When he was only a few
months old, she used to drug him and put him under her working cot.
JUBILEE ACTION RESPONSE
Jubilee Action is supporting two houses on the outskirts of Mumbai which are providing
permanent homes for orphaned and abandoned children of prostitutes working in its red light
district. The staff has rescued some of the 50 girls, others have been brought by their parents in
order to protect their children from the streets` influence.
Having received little education on the streets, the girls are integrated into the local school
system and extra tuition is available at the home if required.
Case Study
Asha was left to fend for herself on the streets of Bombay after her mother, a prostitute in the red
light district, died. Her father wanted to sell her to a brothel owner but Jubilee House staff
rescued her. Asha is now studying hard, has passed her typing exam and is happy and safe from
the dangers of the streets.
If you would like further information on Jubilee Action please e-mail
info@jubileeaction.demon.co.uk
Jubilee Action is a registered charity no 1013587

Re: # 96

``According to some research, child prostitution is socially acceptable in some sections of Indian society through the practice of Devdasi. Young girls are given to the `gods` and they become a religious prostitute. ``

Thanks Haideri for pointing out the decadence in indian society. We have a lot of work to do. Its poverty which is a significant factor which has to be confronted. But its easy said then done.

`` was trying to draw your attention to the ``civilized`` practice of Devdasi. ``

There cannot be any justification for this kind of system. There are laws against it. But in a county like india laws can be broken with bribe/influence/muscle power. I hope you also do not condone Mohammad marriage to little girl, Ayesha with some nonsensical excuse. We need to be rational.

Also, you can point to the AIDS problem that is growing in India.

Re: # 99

Netizen,

What you just said in few lines makes much more sense than what ``cayenne`` has been spewing for last few hours. I am not a ``Mullah`` Muslim and what Mohammad did was absolutely wrong. This practice is still alive in some parts of rural India and Pakistan.

Re: # 102

Oh!!.Now you`re trying to backtrack and pretend to be nice.Typical pak manouvering.Nice try.You and your puny little country can take a hike.You cannot deny that little boys are molested and sold for sex on the streets of Lahore and Karachi.Ask me and i`ll back it up by pasting a link.I don`t like to wash your dirty in linen in public, unlike your classless self. Isn`t it time you went to bed, `little` one, from the little country on our western flanks.Good night.

#92 by haideri on May 13, 2005 10:25am PT
HP..I`ve seen dhobi ghats in pakistan.They`re smaller and dirtier.What`s so wrong about this picture?.These people are plying a trade they have been doing for centuries.P**s off.Some people swear by the dhobi, but there are large sections of the population that use washing machines.So??.And, India is the seventh largest nation in the world.Again, p**s off.

Rep # 91
Over one billion living on a small piece of land, you call this living? Go all the way down in the posts and see who started the pissing match.

Haideri,

I can just see the jealousy brimming over in your posts.

Are there no laundry facilities in Pakistan? Civilized and Rich country like India can afford to have many.

Re# 87

Take a look at the ``civilized and rich`` country`s laundry (It is located in Bombay)