Poverty creation - Maharashtra ishtyle

Ref BeeJay #15

[#13 Harimau, will you exempt Tamil-speaking Brahmins from getting shot even if they are liberal? (Follow-on question - do you have any ``liberals`` in your own immediate family? (Remember, opposites generally attract.)) ]

ALL English-speaking TamBrahms are Liberals/CryptoCommunists when they are not Communists outright, because they are raised on a steady diet of propaganda by ``The Anti-Hindu`` and its editor N. Ram.

I will give you a prominent example: Jairam Ramesh, who is an adviser to Sonia G@ndu.

Yes, they should be shot, except that then the collective IQ of the nation will go into negative numbers.

About opposites attracting each other, that applies only when you go into the so-called ``love`` marriages. So, the answer is schools segregated by gender all the way up to college (including college, if I have any control!) And no, my wife would not qualify as being eligible to be shot on the basis of her liberal leanings, because watching black women drop off their children on Friday evenings at the emergency room of the hospital on some pretext or other and picking them up on Monday mornings so that they didn`t have to pay for a babysitter while they partied over the weekend deprogrammed her of any socialist propaganda she was bombarded with while in India.

I have a nephew who grew up in India who, despite being practically a Communist in India and socialising with autorickshaw drivers, railway pantry car waiters and proletariat of a similar kind, is now a member of the NRA, attended the Bush inaugural and has joined the US Army Reserve! So, there is hope for these folks. All they need is the right kind of deprogramming. (Well, in this case, I think he went overboard in the opposie direction!)

This article is well-intentioned, no doubt. However, the fact is that no government can ever provide a real solution to the type of problems mentioned here. Resources are limited and common sense dictates that they must first go to those who are rightfully entitled by law, otherwise why would any one have any respect for the law. Compassion has a place in human life, but one also needs to be fair, and the appeal for such compassion must be done on an individual basis, not to a government-like entity. ALL governments, given the chance, try to grab more power! Also, this power leads to arrogance and corruption! Therefore, any time a government starts getting “serious” about solving what appears to be an intractable problem; one ought to become VERY cautious.

The bottom line is - people should not have children when they don’t have the ability to provide for them or to bring them up! When they do that, they and perhaps more likely the innocent children, WILL be held accountable somehow, either by society (which would turn VERY indifferent) or by nature (e.g., the devastating effects of deforestation, etc.) It is terrible, but so is life.

#13 Harimau, will you exempt Tamil-speaking Brahmins from getting shot even if they are liberal? (Follow-on question - do you have any ``liberals`` in your own immediate family? (Remember, opposites generally attract.))

Brother Harimau:
I completely agree with you. I am currently working on compiling a list of all the liberals and commies who DEFAME, DERIDE and DISPARAGE india and/or indians. I would appreciate any inputs you or brother Avenger can provide towards my little (humble) project.

Thank you.

Ref avenger123 #3

[``Time was when Maharashtra used to be one of the best-governed states in India. Bombay, though overcrowded, was a great place to live in, and one did not hear too many complaints from the other cities either..``

I`m sorry..but have you ever stepped out of the Mumbai airport ? I did when I was a kid. The scene outside was horrendous. Slums , tents , people cooking , sleeping on pavements or answering the call of nature..all on roadside.....]

Heck, why step out of the Mumbai airport? Just llok at the airport itself. People having to get out of the terminal building, get into a bus to get to the plane, etc. Yes, more employment for bus drivers, for useless persons with college degrees in humanities or economics to ensure that those who got on the bus at the terminal actually got off at the plane, etc.

I think the airport at OklahomaCity is a better airport than the one at Mumbai.

Manmohan Singh the Neutered has promised to make Bombay into Shanghai. He is more capable of making Shanghai into Bombay than the other way around.

Every frikking Commie and Liberal in India ought to be shot.

``3. Farmers with more than two children will have to pay one and half times the new rates.``


Why is that? Is there a penalty for having larger families?

#6
“Mumbai has uninterrupted power.”
See Farzana Versey’s Ilog! Lie about numbers and now lying about power too!

Pakistan is a poor country. So no comparison. How could Pakistan compare with the fourth richest country in World?
How about pictures of slums…I heard that 70% of Bombay is one big slum!
How about those common toilets in all Buildings(chal?). Fertilizer factory right in the building!

It is a well known fact that India has been fudging numbers for a long time! I mean what do you expect from corrupt bureaucracy and crooked politicians.

HA1 HA!!

Urstruly...I just visited the economist website. Found no such story on India. Can you provide the link or better post the entire artile here ? I think this is just another of your juvenile tricks.

Seriously Urstruly , how old are you ? Late 30s ? 40s ? You are very immature for your age. Following in the footsteps of your great compatriot from Pakistan Mr.HP aka Hacked Penis obviously , who is most likely in his 50s but behaves like some juvenile potty mouthed 13 year old.

Urstruly:
That is obviously something that Mushy taught Hindus during the bhai-bhai days. As you may remember, Pakistan is a champion in the game of cooking account books.

ha ha

You hindu people should read the recent Economist report on how Indian government is grossly manipulating and exagerating the GDP figures since the last government. No wonder the miserable humanity sent the goverment of religious nuts packing home.

google to enlighten yourself.

I am adding name of Uma K to the list of people who BADMOUTH and DEFAME india. Watch your back Uma K !

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First time in my life, I have to agree with Gujju! However, my motives are sincere and gujju is out to get a non RSS coalition in Maharashtra!

“I`m sorry..but have you ever stepped out of the Mumbai airport ? I did when I was a kid. The scene outside was horrendous. Slums , tents , people cooking , sleeping on pavements or answering the call of nature..all on roadside.....”

There is no justification or this kind of living standards in the fourth richest country in the world. What about All those stats that gujju had been jamming up everyone’s throat? All big lies! The truth comes out. I mean Gujju had to answer the call of nature on the roadside in the fourth richest country of the world. There are slums in Bombay and I thought it was like New York! People cooking on the roadside! Why? they don’t have regular houses in the fourth richest country in world?
Why is there any poor in India when Indian IT industry makes $17 billion a year! I mean $17 billion is no joke!
It was interesting to see all those Indian ransacking the Electric department in Maharashtra on TV and an engineer running two ACs in his office!
Gujju! show some stats!

Cayenne! How about pictures of downtown Bombay without power!

Ha!Ha!!Ha!!! How the mighty bite the dust!

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“I`m sorry..but have you ever stepped out of the Mumbai airport ? I did when I was a kid. The scene outside was horrendous. Slums , tents , people cooking , sleeping on pavements or answering the call of nature..all on roadside.....”

There is no justification or this kind of living standards in the fourth richest country in the world. What about All those stats that gujju had been jamming up everyone’s throat? All big lies! The truth comes out. I mean Gujju had to answer the call of nature on the roadside in the fourth richest country of the world. There are slums in Bombay and I thought it was like New York! People cooking on the roadside! Why? they don’t have regular houses in the fourth richest country in world?

hp,
These slums are constructed illegally on government property be it railways, airport. Its a common knowledge that 30-40 % of mumbai lives in slum. Dharavi, is asias biggest slum, ut it is slum-cum-commercail place. A lot of tradfe takes place there. THe present gov. wanted to stop these illegal hutments but Sonia is more concerned with votes than providing law and order. THese slums will continue to rise as every day hundreds of people come to mumbai in search of work. Corruption, political favoritism just makes the problem acute.


``Why is there any poor in India when Indian IT industry makes $17 billion a year! I mean $17 billion is no joke!``

i wonder whether there are more than 2% of indian population involved in IT. Those who are are doing good. There are thousands of them who have made it big, but that doesn`t solve the employment problems. IT is still a small part of GDP.

It was interesting to see all those Indian ransacking the Electric department in Maharashtra on TV and an engineer running two ACs in his office!

Bad policies, bureacracy, impotent leadership is all I can say. Crores of rupees in terms of bills are not paid. Even the ministers are defaulters, poor people don`t expect to pay. Farmers want free power. Dabhol/Enron project got cancelled.



Ha!Ha!!Ha!!! How the mighty bite the dust!

Good for you.

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Sweetie.....Mumbai has uninterrupted power.It`s the cities outside of Mumbai that are seeing load shedding and they are pissed about it.Maharashtra , statewise is twice the size of pak punjab,honey.And, don`t gloat.Karachi has seen load shedding of 20 hours a day this summer.And a day has ??...24 hours.This reactionary is giving room for all jealous , disgruntled paks to have their cheap thrills.May she rot in hades for this.

``Time was when Maharashtra used to be one of the best-governed states in India. Bombay, though overcrowded, was a great place to live in, and one did not hear too many complaints from the other cities either..``

I`m sorry..but have you ever stepped out of the Mumbai airport ? I did when I was a kid. The scene outside was horrendous. Slums , tents , people cooking , sleeping on pavements or answering the call of nature..all on roadside.....

Oh yes...Bombay was absolutely a great place to live until this present government took up this nefarious task of demolishing these slums . I totally agree with you.

Basically you crib about privatisation. You rant about government charging for basic stuff like water. How sinister it is of the government to charge poor farmers for water/electricity , you say. But what escapes your attention is that the real tragedy is the inability of the farmers to pay for the most basic amenities provided by the state. Why are the farmers so poor ? Is it a sudden phenomenon ? Or is it because of decades of faulty government policies which inhibited private enterprise and eschewed state control ? There are no free lunches in life. Free power , free water ...can only last for so long. Ultimately somebody has to pay up. Only 2-3% of India`s population pays income tax. How much more can the state milk out of them ?

``“When we launched the (demolition) drive, we never thought of their rehabilitation. Legally speaking, that is not the responsibility of the Government.” The state of Maharashtra, in its drive to beautify Mumbai, blatantly abdicated its responsibility toward a segment of its residents, who may have come from outside, but whose labour, nevertheless, contributed to the state’s economy.``


Uma,
those whose huts were demolished have no legal right to be there in the first place. If I can pitch a tent anywhere in Mumbai, will it make me a legal owner of that space? If thats the case I don`t need to struggle as a middle class mumbaikar i will just start living in front of ``Varsha`` and in a few years become a proud owner of a prime real estate.
I understand that not much time was given to the people before demolishing their huts, but that doesn`t mean that these hutments were legal. Is beautifying a city a crime? For Gods sake we indians have to change our mentality. If the poor has not to be suffocated, then the free-loaders should also not be tolerated. MSEB is under such strain, one of the reason is the defaulters (ministers including) and free-loaders who want electricity sans any bills.