Poverty creation - Maharashtra ishtyle

Urstruly:
That is obviously something that Mushy taught Hindus during the bhai-bhai days. As you may remember, Pakistan is a champion in the game of cooking account books.

Urstruly...I just visited the economist website. Found no such story on India. Can you provide the link or better post the entire artile here ? I think this is just another of your juvenile tricks.

Seriously Urstruly , how old are you ? Late 30s ? 40s ? You are very immature for your age. Following in the footsteps of your great compatriot from Pakistan Mr.HP aka Hacked Penis obviously , who is most likely in his 50s but behaves like some juvenile potty mouthed 13 year old.

#6
“Mumbai has uninterrupted power.”
See Farzana Versey’s Ilog! Lie about numbers and now lying about power too!

Pakistan is a poor country. So no comparison. How could Pakistan compare with the fourth richest country in World?
How about pictures of slums…I heard that 70% of Bombay is one big slum!
How about those common toilets in all Buildings(chal?). Fertilizer factory right in the building!

It is a well known fact that India has been fudging numbers for a long time! I mean what do you expect from corrupt bureaucracy and crooked politicians.

HA1 HA!!

``3. Farmers with more than two children will have to pay one and half times the new rates.``


Why is that? Is there a penalty for having larger families?

Ref avenger123 #3

[``Time was when Maharashtra used to be one of the best-governed states in India. Bombay, though overcrowded, was a great place to live in, and one did not hear too many complaints from the other cities either..``

I`m sorry..but have you ever stepped out of the Mumbai airport ? I did when I was a kid. The scene outside was horrendous. Slums , tents , people cooking , sleeping on pavements or answering the call of nature..all on roadside.....]

Heck, why step out of the Mumbai airport? Just llok at the airport itself. People having to get out of the terminal building, get into a bus to get to the plane, etc. Yes, more employment for bus drivers, for useless persons with college degrees in humanities or economics to ensure that those who got on the bus at the terminal actually got off at the plane, etc.

I think the airport at OklahomaCity is a better airport than the one at Mumbai.

Manmohan Singh the Neutered has promised to make Bombay into Shanghai. He is more capable of making Shanghai into Bombay than the other way around.

Every frikking Commie and Liberal in India ought to be shot.

Brother Harimau:
I completely agree with you. I am currently working on compiling a list of all the liberals and commies who DEFAME, DERIDE and DISPARAGE india and/or indians. I would appreciate any inputs you or brother Avenger can provide towards my little (humble) project.

Thank you.

This article is well-intentioned, no doubt. However, the fact is that no government can ever provide a real solution to the type of problems mentioned here. Resources are limited and common sense dictates that they must first go to those who are rightfully entitled by law, otherwise why would any one have any respect for the law. Compassion has a place in human life, but one also needs to be fair, and the appeal for such compassion must be done on an individual basis, not to a government-like entity. ALL governments, given the chance, try to grab more power! Also, this power leads to arrogance and corruption! Therefore, any time a government starts getting “serious” about solving what appears to be an intractable problem; one ought to become VERY cautious.

The bottom line is - people should not have children when they don’t have the ability to provide for them or to bring them up! When they do that, they and perhaps more likely the innocent children, WILL be held accountable somehow, either by society (which would turn VERY indifferent) or by nature (e.g., the devastating effects of deforestation, etc.) It is terrible, but so is life.

#13 Harimau, will you exempt Tamil-speaking Brahmins from getting shot even if they are liberal? (Follow-on question - do you have any ``liberals`` in your own immediate family? (Remember, opposites generally attract.))

Ref BeeJay #15

[#13 Harimau, will you exempt Tamil-speaking Brahmins from getting shot even if they are liberal? (Follow-on question - do you have any ``liberals`` in your own immediate family? (Remember, opposites generally attract.)) ]

ALL English-speaking TamBrahms are Liberals/CryptoCommunists when they are not Communists outright, because they are raised on a steady diet of propaganda by ``The Anti-Hindu`` and its editor N. Ram.

I will give you a prominent example: Jairam Ramesh, who is an adviser to Sonia G@ndu.

Yes, they should be shot, except that then the collective IQ of the nation will go into negative numbers.

About opposites attracting each other, that applies only when you go into the so-called ``love`` marriages. So, the answer is schools segregated by gender all the way up to college (including college, if I have any control!) And no, my wife would not qualify as being eligible to be shot on the basis of her liberal leanings, because watching black women drop off their children on Friday evenings at the emergency room of the hospital on some pretext or other and picking them up on Monday mornings so that they didn`t have to pay for a babysitter while they partied over the weekend deprogrammed her of any socialist propaganda she was bombarded with while in India.

I have a nephew who grew up in India who, despite being practically a Communist in India and socialising with autorickshaw drivers, railway pantry car waiters and proletariat of a similar kind, is now a member of the NRA, attended the Bush inaugural and has joined the US Army Reserve! So, there is hope for these folks. All they need is the right kind of deprogramming. (Well, in this case, I think he went overboard in the opposie direction!)

Would the author support internal passports a la China so that if someone wants to come live in Bombay, he needs to have a permit? Which is how they control emigration from rural China into Beijing or other cities?

No, that would be an intrusion into the personal liberties of the citizens. However, in their eyes, it is NOT an curtailment of personal liberties in China.

Screw these people!

Re: # 4


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“I`m sorry..but have you ever stepped out of the Mumbai airport ? I did when I was a kid. The scene outside was horrendous. Slums , tents , people cooking , sleeping on pavements or answering the call of nature..all on roadside.....”

There is no justification or this kind of living standards in the fourth richest country in the world. What about All those stats that gujju had been jamming up everyone’s throat? All big lies! The truth comes out. I mean Gujju had to answer the call of nature on the roadside in the fourth richest country of the world. There are slums in Bombay and I thought it was like New York! People cooking on the roadside! Why? they don’t have regular houses in the fourth richest country in world?

hp,
These slums are constructed illegally on government property be it railways, airport. Its a common knowledge that 30-40 % of mumbai lives in slum. Dharavi, is asias biggest slum, ut it is slum-cum-commercail place. A lot of tradfe takes place there. THe present gov. wanted to stop these illegal hutments but Sonia is more concerned with votes than providing law and order. THese slums will continue to rise as every day hundreds of people come to mumbai in search of work. Corruption, political favoritism just makes the problem acute.


``Why is there any poor in India when Indian IT industry makes $17 billion a year! I mean $17 billion is no joke!``

i wonder whether there are more than 2% of indian population involved in IT. Those who are are doing good. There are thousands of them who have made it big, but that doesn`t solve the employment problems. IT is still a small part of GDP.

It was interesting to see all those Indian ransacking the Electric department in Maharashtra on TV and an engineer running two ACs in his office!

Bad policies, bureacracy, impotent leadership is all I can say. Crores of rupees in terms of bills are not paid. Even the ministers are defaulters, poor people don`t expect to pay. Farmers want free power. Dabhol/Enron project got cancelled.



Ha!Ha!!Ha!!! How the mighty bite the dust!

Good for you.

#13 by harimau
“why step out of the Mumbai airport? Just llok at the airport itself.”


Don’t be distraught Harimau! India is a poor country. Things will change….May be in the next millennium!! he he he…

Netizen

Calm down my friend.

Ref HP #19

[#13 by harimau
“why step out of the Mumbai airport? Just llok at the airport itself.”

Don’t be distraught Harimau!]

I am not distraught. I am outraged. This is what happens when people unqualified to run a railway station have delusions that they can run modern airports.

Kill the Commies!

In India, the name of the game is tokenism. Nothing has to be done, just raise a few empty slogans, beam for the cameras, engineer a few articles by sympathetic word prostitutes and arrange for positive coverage in the media...the job is done. Even after six decades of self-rule, governments in India are clueless about governance. So, we have Laloos oiling their lathis, Mayawatis building elephant parks, Uma Bhartis performing Yajnas and VilasRaos `beautifying` cities. Nobody ever accused them of sagacity, they`ve steered clear of any such controversial labels.

It is not that people erect their tents illegally because they want to occupy prime real estate, they have no other go. I suspect this legality logic is a charade for hiding underhand deals. Honble CM and his deputy must have got a few khokhas from real estate people. We won`t have to wait long, the lands freed of illegal presence will be sold to bhoomi dons at concessional rate and they`ll erect concrete jungles to house the affluent. Then another tent, another eviction and the game will go on.

This is a little much though.Why do we put up with wasteful spending by our satraps?.

Minister`s car worth 145 houses
Source: IANS.
Ranchi, May 10: Ministers in Jharkhand are zipping around in brand new vehicles costing a whopping Rs.64 million to the state exchequer.
After the Arjun Munda-led government came to power in March, the government decided to order bullet proof vehicles, each costing Rs.3.2 million, for all ministers citing security concerns.
Initially the government decided on Mitsubishi Lancers but after a public outcry, they settled for Tata Safaris, which were delivered to the ministers May 8. The vehicles were purchased from the police modernisation and building and construction fund.
According to an official in the building and construction department, the cost of each car was equivalent to constructing 145 houses under the Indira Awas Yojna scheme.
One minister said there was nothing wrong with the new vehicles.
``We are concerned about development of the state but it does not mean that we should move on bullock carts. Development will take time and everything cannot be changed overnight,`` a minister told IANS on the condition of anonymity.
The ministers also moved into homes of their choice and are busy renovating them.
Jharkhand was carved out of southern Bihar in 2000 after accusations that the government of undivided Bihar was neglecting development of the region.
Close to 55 percent of the state`s population lives below the poverty line as against the national average of 26 percent. The literacy rate is 54.13 percent as against the national average of 65.38 percent.
The state has only eight percent of irrigated land as against the national average of 40 percent.

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YOUR ARTICLE JUST SHOWS THE OUTCOME OF THE TROUBLE BREWING IN MAHARASHTRA. THE STATE GOVERNMENT HAD THIS COMING. THE DEMOCRATIC FRONT HAS QUITE A FEW (AN UNDERSTATEMENT) CORRUPTION CHARGES. ALL THE MONEY EARNED BY THE GOVERNMENT DISSAPEARS IN THE HANDS OF THE POLITICIANS. THE STATE IS REELING UNDER A DEBT OF SOME 11 BILLION RUPEES, THAT TOO IN THE LAST SEVEN YEARS.
THE MIGRANTS TO MUMBAI, FROM OTHER STATES, HAVE PUT A HUGE LOAD ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE, BASIC AMENETIES, TRANSPORT AND THE ABSORBING CAPACITY OF THE SOCIETY AS A WHOLE. THIS ISLAND CITY HAS REACHED ITS LIMIT. IT CANNOT HOLD ANY MORE PEOPLE ANYMORE. MUMBAI ALREADY HOUSES ASIA`S LARGEST SLUM, THE DHARAVI.
I BELEIVE THE STATE GOVERNMENT IS FINALLY HEEDING TO THE PROBLEMS THAT THE CONGRESS GOVERNMENT HAD IGNORED AND DISTANCED ITSELF FROM, IN THE LAST FIFTY YEARS. THOUGH THE WAY IT IS GOING ABOUT THE SITUATION NEEDS SOME EFFECTIVE PLANNING.

Uma:

It is good that people like you were not there to advise the Chinese, or else you would have turned Shanghai into a Bombay. You and other people thinking like you are all very good intentioned, but I am sure that the road to Hell via Dharavi is built with good intentions. Let us look at the source of your anguish:

``1) Massive hikes in water charges. The new rates will reflect ‘full recovery of cost of irrigation management, administration, operation and maintenance,’ and ‘partial recovery of capital investment.’ ``

Absolutely, a must! It is high time that people, not only Indians, stop wasting water, considering it to be a free and unlimited resource. Water should be charged on a full cost-recovery basis; however pricing should be set so that the first few daily buckets of water are practically free for everyone.

``2) In some regions, farmers will be forced to adopt expensive drip or sprinkler irrigation methods.``

A highly desirable thing to do. But government should ensure that farmers have access to loans to invest in the newer technology.

``3) Farmers with more than two children will have to pay one and half times the new rates.``

Another progressive step, as long as it has a `grandfather` clause, exempting those with already more than two children.

``4) Of the three full-time members of the Regulatory Authority, not even one is required to be a farmer.``

Wrong move. I would suggest that a majority should be active farmers.

``5) Breaking these laws will invite six months imprisonment and a fine of ten times the annual water charges``

A law without consequences for breaking it is not worth the paper it is written on.

harimou:

Jairam Ramesh is not a communist but one of the consistent supporters of reform. You should read the column he used to write for India Today. He supported most of the NDA govt.`s economic policies even when he was in the opposition.