unflinching idealism ... since 1997 archivessitemapabouthelpfeedback
where paths intersect
  • Home
  • InFocus
  • Themes
  • Columns
  • Articles
  • Fiction
  • iLogs
  • Gallery
  • Unplugged
  • Writers
  • Interactors
  • Tags
Sign in | Join Chowk
web chowk
  • Article
  • Interact
  • read writer comments
  • add to favorites
  • get rss feeds
  • print
  • email this link

Ride Across the River

Dilip DSouza May 13, 2005

Latest comments   flat   threaded   latest   oldest   all

#1 Posted by Netizen on May 13, 2005 11:55:50 am
Good read. Its because of men like Boba that the country has not lost Punjab and kashmir. Soldiers have to pay a price for wrong policies of the political class. Though there were dark chapters in the fight against terrorism, secutiry forces have started to honor human rights. Army chief has declared that it will be a core factor from now on. Recent conviction of army officer against molestation of a woman being the case.
reply to this interact write a new interact add to favorites flag objectionable content
#2 Posted by cayenne on May 13, 2005 12:13:47 pm
To the memory of Boba and many other braves like him.Jai Hind.
reply to this interact write a new interact add to favorites flag objectionable content
#3 Posted by stuka on May 13, 2005 12:35:11 pm
=== Interact Removed ===
reply to this interact write a new interact add to favorites flag objectionable content
#4 Posted by Faruk on May 13, 2005 4:31:51 pm
Nice Article Dilip.

“Why Srinagar, my friends ask in wonder, why Kashmir? I feel oddly bashful offering the sole answer I have: I`m in search of patriotism. I`m worn out with the variety that only seems like phony posturing to me -- the ``love India or leave it``, ``my country right or wrong`` kind of rhetoric that is applauded as patriotism. I`m searching for different ways to look at this near-holy virtue, different ways it is experienced and lived. Even fought for”.

Dilip you may feel the need to go to Kashmir to find a meaning to Patriotism, but I found it in a bunch of retired folk teaching village children in badoi UP and a bunch of retired doctors who go around treating villagers in gujarat, these doctors have a mobile hospital that they paid for by their own money.

Regards,

Faruk
reply to this interact write a new interact add to favorites flag objectionable content
#5 Posted by rahul_capri on May 13, 2005 10:54:37 pm
Dilip, As a celebration of the spirit of Major Ekka, this article is fine.But if you really wanted to look for and understand patriotism in all its nuances, u didnt do too well for yourself. You could have asked more questions, met more people.
You have unanswered questions.
But protection from whom? The people they are themselves charged with protecting?
You should have voiced them.
You could have become part of the dialogue between the person who said-
``These soldiers are all stupid goondas.``
And the one who said-
``The thrill of hunting, you know? And then we shoot the fucker down.``
reply to this interact write a new interact add to favorites flag objectionable content
#6 Posted by KaalChakra on May 14, 2005 7:08:22 pm
So what does this article say?

reply to this interact write a new interact add to favorites flag objectionable content
#7 Posted by dost_mittar on May 15, 2005 5:08:46 am
I am disappointed. This is perhaps the first pointless article from Dilip D`Souza, or the point is so subtle that it gets lost.
reply to this interact write a new interact add to favorites flag objectionable content
#8 Posted by slan on May 15, 2005 5:15:09 am
Re: # 7
Dear Mittar,

would please tell why you found the article is pointless.I found it a fairly well balanced presentation of the reality.
thanks
reply to this interact write a new interact add to favorites flag objectionable content
#9 Posted by KaalChakra on May 15, 2005 6:21:45 am
Slan

A great deal of writing is realistic yet pointless.


reply to this interact write a new interact add to favorites flag objectionable content
#10 Posted by slan on May 15, 2005 8:55:58 am
The author raises questions which are thought provoking.
reply to this interact write a new interact add to favorites flag objectionable content
#11 Posted by slan on May 15, 2005 8:56:09 am
The author raises questions which are thought provoking.
reply to this interact write a new interact add to favorites flag objectionable content
#12 Posted by okaab on May 16, 2005 12:49:48 am
It`s well written but somewhere along the line the writer loses focus. Patriotism isn`t something easy to define or understand if you don`t look at it from the statist or the rightist perspective. When I started reading I thought Dilip was going to explore something new. Unfortunately, that doesn`t happen. All I get is the likeable Sikka is a patriot because he could make contact with and become one of the civilians. Which in itself though commendable isn`t something extraordinary. My feeling is there`s more to Sikka`s personality which the writer has missed.
reply to this interact write a new interact add to favorites flag objectionable content
#13 Posted by jang on May 16, 2005 9:03:44 am
This is what I understood: the writers is ina self-agrandization mode. I am so cool, I hear all these things about kashmir, so I checked it out, so I hung out with the pashmina-seller and a few stupid jawans protecting other jawans, and sometimes I drank some chai. aint I cool?

reply to this interact write a new interact add to favorites flag objectionable content
#14 Posted by sonam on November 7, 2005 7:35:35 am
Hey Dilip,

It is difficult for the army men living there especially when faced with transient visitors who see it only from a very narrow point of view. When the taxi guy asked you whether he looked like a terrorist...he might not have...but does anyone know what a terrorist looks like. That is the whole point of terrorism and that is what differntiates them from Army. They don`t wear uniforms and declare their intentions. It seems to be easy to ride on the army and say that they are making life difficult. Make no mistake, Army is there to protect and they have to fight terrorists to provide that security. The inconvenience to the civilian population is caused not by the armymen on patrol but by terrorists because of whom the army has to be there. The lights have to be on in the Sumo not because the army wants it but because otherwise terrorists would shoot from a darkened vehicle.

Coming back to the question, does a terrorist look like ``balding, shambling, slightly flabby man``? Does a bomb look like a bicycle under a tree?
reply to this interact write a new interact add to favorites flag objectionable content

Interact Index

    #14 sonam
    #13 jang
    #12 okaab
    #11 slan
    #10 slan
    #9 KaalChakra
    #8 slan
    #7 dost_mittar
    #6 KaalChakra
    #5 rahul_capri
    #4 Faruk
    #3 stuka
    #2 cayenne
    #1 Netizen

Also by Dilip DSouza

  • The Tyson Who Didn't Fight Lewis
  • All The Way To Maine
  • No Fault Of Mine
more »

Similar Articles

  • ‘Dustbin of history’ or ‘history of sorts’ Gowhar Geelani
  • It's Politics Uber Alles In Kashmir ..... And India Dost Mittar
  • Kashmir Experiencing Hyderabad Raoof Mir
  • Solving Amarnath: A New Hope in Kashmir Murtaza Shibli
  • Kashmir Liberated, Others Languish Beena Sarwar
more »

US Elections 2008 Primaries

  • Hillary Clinton a Better Presidential Candidate
  • Leaders, Heroes and Mountains
  • Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and New American Dreams
  • Pakistan Elections 2008 - An analysis
  • Political Issues Ahead of Pakistan Elections
more »
get rss feed Get Chowk RSS Feed

Get Chowk Newsletter

Latest Interacts

  • tahmed32: Typical example of the... India-Pakistan: Empathy, grief in
  • Eklavya: OK, other than omprakash... India-Pakistan: Empathy, grief in
  • tahmed32: Eklavya: please dont split... India-Pakistan: Empathy, grief in
  • tahmed32: GF #83: while india's... India-Pakistan: Empathy, grief in
  • Eklavya: tahmedji and harish A correction:... India-Pakistan: Empathy, grief in
  • tahmed32: om prakash #75 agreed.... India-Pakistan: Empathy, grief in
  • Goldfinger: harish_hyd, also this: www.rediff.com/news/2008/nov/nov28mumterror-rescue-efforts-badly-planne d-says-israel.htm?zcc=rl India's... India-Pakistan: Empathy, grief in
  • rf786: Re: # 61 Like I... India-Pakistan: Empathy, grief in

THEMES

  • Pakistan's Struggle for Democracy
  • The Indian Story
  • Indo-Pak Relations
  • Personal Narratives
  • Religion Today
  • War on Terror
  • Role of Media
  • Call for Social Change
  • Hold Them Accountable
  • Environment and Us
  • Way of Life
more »

Top 5 Articles This Week

  • Popular
  • Mumbai Attacks: Shocking
  • An Indian Muslim
  • Sexless and Loveless Marriages
  • India-Pakistan: Empathy, grief in Pakistan for Mumbai mayhem
  • Terror in Mumbai.....and also in 'Bannu or somewhere'
  • Featured
  • There are a Lot of Monkeys
  • White Charade
  • Words of a Woman
  • FOX News and the Smelly Shoes
  • Dilemmas of Creative Children
  • 10 Years Ago
  • Azadi
  • Intolerance in Official Practice
  • Calligraphy of Coils
  • Pride and Potatoes: Trade with India
  • I Know Why the Caged Frog Croaks

Write on Chowk Interact Guidelines Privacy policy Terms Contact

Copyright © 1997 - 2008 chowk.com. All Rights Reserved
Reproduction of material on any www.chowk.com pages without prior written permissions is strictly prohibited