Uproar over a Cartoon?

I don`t think there would have been even a single voice of protest had Washington Post labelled the dog as ``Musharraf`` or ``Pak Army Generals`` or just simply ``Pak Army``. There would have been no protests whatsoever just as there weren`t any when Musharraf almost got blown to the sky or when Gen. Ahsan Saleem Hayat narrowly escaped a meeting with Gen. Zia. And as some interactors have suggested that is what is really going on anyway i.e. Army/Generals/Musharraf doing the bidding of the U.S like a faithful dog. So the question is, why all the uproar.

See the thing is, with the dog labelled Pakistan, it somehow implies that the people of Pakistan have some say in (or have some power over) what Musharraf & the Army are doing and whatever is going on actually has the backing of the common Pakistani.

Pakistanis just want the world to know that majority of Pakistanis never agreed to act like America`s dogs. Only Musharraf and his ghairt-mand corps commanders agreed to a role like that. So the solution: the dog be re-labelled properly and that will be the end of all protests.

#28 by Urstruly on May 17, 2005 6:51am PT

nothing hurts my feelings....you can post pictures of pakis standing on the US flag all you want...I hope you aren`t bothered by images of marines with shoes in a mosque(right before they go out and whack a bunch of jihadis...all with your tax $$)...

Re: # 22 arjun

Thank you arjun for the picture; but don`t you see that it is just the carpet they are standing on. Going by the logic in this article and through the interacts from the people who are custodians of western interests in our lands, I don`t see a difference if you address your brother in law as b/chod or father as m/chod because that is what in fact they are. We are all bhonsri.../ke since that is where we all come from (I was a scissarian by the way). A hindu man when committs a sexual congress with his niece, is addressed as mamon/ mama in India by the woman, and other address him as bhaanji ke. These are all words.

What`s idiotic and offensive there? It`s the ultimate endorsement of your loyalty to Uncle Sam. So all you cousin fuckers should be proud of yourself.

Re: # 10

ferozk,

Please note my arguments as well to see that there are exceptions to the rule you describe. However, thank you for reinforcing my point with ``The FOX NEWS is often refered to the ``junkyard dog of the Republican Party`` because it zealously guards the interests of the Republican Party.``

While I too think that the depiction of Pakistan (as an active partner in war on terrorism) is right on the dot, the point expressed/implied (whichever way one wishes to look at it) in the cartoon may be that FOX or Pakistan do not have a mind and/or an agenda of their own viz always following the orders of his master not thinking where it may lead.

What American public and administration think of Pakistan; what Pakistani inept politicians think of their relationship with the US or about their position the bigger scheme of things; how the general Pak populace percieves this relationship; etc, etc, at the end of the day, it`s all politics....dirty game to exploit people. People simply do not have anything else they can do but to protest, agitate, vent...whatever else you want to call it.

I forget who, but someone here made a very pertinent point that may be they`re testing the temperature.

Same thing with desecration of Quran story in the Newsweek. Such incidents have reported by many high-profile newspaper many times in the recent past as you can see here. May be wanted to see how the entire Muslim nation would react globally, or if there would be call for jihad :-)~~

As for the uproar, in every situation different people respond differently becuase they receive the message differently, and seldom one is able to prove the other. I think most of the offended are upset at their own leadership, more so than the Americans, for their support for the latter.

Ssaleemi sahib:

Calling Pakistani generals and for that matter Pakistani ruling class dog would be a gross affront of the loyalty of dogs. Producing such disloyal, corrupt and shameless dogs would take much more of genetical engineering than what is available to human race at the moment.
Sorry to remind you, though you definitely have right to have your opinion, insulting cute dogs goes beyond your democratic rights.

Dawn, May 17, 2005

The great cartoon turmoil


By Omar R. Quraishi


THE fact that much of Pakistani society could do with a good dose of tolerance, reason and realism was never in doubt. However, the recent publication of a cartoon in an American newspaper and the near-hysterical reaction of many Pakistanis, especially the members of the National Assembly and assorted politicians drives the point home once again with renewed emphasis.

Consider what happened in the first week of May, after the capture of Al Qaeda’s operational commander Abu Faraj Al Libbi. Bill Garner, editorial cartoonist for the conservative and right-of-centre Washington Times, drew a cartoon showing Pakistan as a dog holding Al Libbi in his mouth, while a US soldier says to the dog: “Good boy! Now let’s go find [Osama] bin Laden”.

The news of the cartoon was published in various Pakistani newspapers, prompting the National Assembly, which was in session at the time, to devote several hours of debate to the offensive cartoon. Politicians of the six-party ARD alliance and from the treasury benches unequivocally condemned the Washington Times and said that the cartoon was proof of the slave-like relationship that Pakistan had come to form with the US.

This line of reasoning fitted in well with the attitude of the critics of the Musharraf government’s policy of cooperation with the US in the war on terror. Among them Tehrik-i-Insaf chief Imran Khan and the leader of the opposition in the National Assembly, JUI chief Maulana Fazlur Rahman, were in the forefront of the attacks on the US-Pakistan alliance.

Mr Khan spoke quite severely of the relationship and proposed that Pakistan should deny US forces’ use of bases on its soil. The minister of state for religious affairs, Aamir Liaquat Hussain, joined in saying that the government would take up the matter with the US government. Eventually, much to everyone’s satisfaction, the National Assembly ended up passing a unanimous resolution asking the federal government to take up the issue of the cartoon with the US government.

Following this, even the Foreign Office spokesman got into the act saying that the cartoon was “highly derogatory” and that Pakistan had asked the US government to investigate whether the cartoon was a “deliberate attempt to ridicule the country”.

Then, on May 10, the newspaper itself, in an editorial titled ‘A dog’s life (and times)’, said that the Pakistani embassy in Washington had told the newspaper that the cartoon was “an insult to the sentiments of the people of both Pakistan and the United States as it strengthens the hands of the extremists”. The editorial further said that “this imputes more power to a mere newspaper than any newspaper deserves, but we take the embassy’s point and offer the assurance that no insult was intended.” Quite clearly part of the problem in this case was a lack of understanding of the cultural image of dogs in this country and the West.

There is no denying that the cartoon was indeed offensive and that its timing, appearing just when Newsweek magazine had reported that US soldiers were deliberately desecrating the Holy Quran while interrogating prisoners at Guantanamo Bay detention centre, couldn’t have been worse. But the over-reaction seen in Pakistan is clearly not justified. First, the cartoon appeared in a private publication and to ask the US government to take the matter up with the newspaper’s management seemed to make little sense, reflecting a lack of understanding of how the print media works in the US.

Some of the main critics of the cartoon, especially Imran Khan, have lived in the West and should be aware of the fact that the media there often pokes fun, sometimes in poor taste, at prime ministers, ministers, other domestic politicians, royalty, entertainers and various public personalities. As already pointed out quite aptly in a Dawn editorial the other day, British newspapers routinely show their own Prime Minister Tony Blair as George Bush’s pet dog.

However, neither did Mr Blair’s government order a crackdown on the offending newspapers or ‘take the issue up with the management’ of the newspapers, nor did the House of Commons pass a resolution against any such portrayal of the prime minister.

One argument used by those who have huffed and puffed about the cartoon is that it reflects the very poor opinion that the newspaper has of the US-Pakistan relationship. These people should have known that the Washington Times is a very conservative newspaper which makes no bones about its political and ideological leanings and its editorial content generally reflects its reactionary views. And as the newspaper itself indirectly admitted in its editorial, the unanimous resolution passed by the National Assembly seems to have given the Washington Times and its cartoonist far more importance than the matter warranted.

Also, what exactly is the US government expected to ‘take up’ with the newspaper given that lampooning and ridiculing domestic politicians, especially presidents, is quite common in America. Mr Bush can perhaps express anger and frustration in private with the constant ridiculing he receives at the hands of many a prominent late-night talk show host (and indeed from many cartoonists and stand-up comics as well) but his administration cannot really extract an apology from the management of a newspaper or a TV network, unless libel or defamation is involved.

For their part, the members of the National Assembly (who must be feeling quite happy and content for passing the resolution) should perhaps devote equal time and attention to other pressing matters. For instance, not a single member of parliament could find the courage to express even shock and outrage at the recent lynching of a man in Nowshera by an enraged mob after he was accused of blasphemy or to take on the self-styled guardians of public morality who recently attacked a women’s race in Gujranwala.

Similarly, when incidents of harassment and violence against women, children or religious minorities happen inside Pakistan — quite regular occurrences — one never sees any MNA or senator huffing and puffing or proposing resolutions against the discrimination or demanding that the federal government arrest and punish the perpetrators.

In fact, how many members of parliament have found the time to debate issues and provide solutions to problems that are close to the heart of most Pakistanis such as provision of clean drinking water, combating rising environmental pollution, providing cheap and affordable public transport, or having schools that have walls and teachers and basic health units which actually have doctors, nurses and medicines at government subsidized rates.

For example, instead of promising that the government would take follow-up action on the cartoon insult, the minister of state for religious affairs would have done better if he had, instead, chosen, for example, to inform parliament of the progress, if any, on the registration of madressahs and the measures, if any, being taken to modernize their curriculum.

When they are not absenting themselves from the house, something that is quite the norm given the frequent adjournments that happen because of lack of quorum, they are busy making fiery speeches and passing unanimous resolutions on non-issues like a cartoon appearing in a country thousands of miles away.

Email: omarq@cyber.net.pk

We ordinary Pakistanis firmly believe that it would be much much closer to the reality and truth if the word PAKISTAN on now that famous dog of Washington Times should be considered and read PAKISTANI GENERALS instead. Yeah, RULERS would be more appropriate but RULERS = Generals. More or less same crap. Hats off to the Washington Times that calls thing with their true names. Please be sure that 90 % Pakistani civilians think like this.

#17 by Urstruly on May 16, 2005 8:00pm PT

#18 by nauman9 on May 16, 2005 8:11pm PT


Please see: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/1454897.stm. However, that is not what Indians believed when the burned the effigy of George W. Bush. They were taken for a free ride by the Indian politicians, just like their Pakistani counterparts.


How many people were killed in the Indian protests? Did the Indian parliament pass a resolution against Dubya`s cat?

No...? Then it`s not the same....nice try, but no cigar....

The other cartoon mentioned in the article:



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Re: # 16

Thanks for your constructive critique. I really appreciate that.

[To be honest, the impact of this cartoon is virtually none on Pakistan and most likely, Pakistan was not even the intended target. In fact, the target audiences for this cartoon probably were the Americans. One can interpret this cartoon as strong anti-Bush.]

I used the words “probably” and “most likely” to provide another viewpoint. However, some readers may not agree with that inference. I used the newspaper’s ranking and strength of its subscriber base as the basis to reach that conclusion.

I have to admit that I, myself, have never read Washington Times before. This newspaper is a small regional newspaper and on its own, could not have reached the Pakistani masses. Most of the Pakistanis were offended after seeing the issue dragged in the Pakistan National Assembly by inept politicians.

A formal protest was neither required not necessary in this case as it was by far the most accurate depiction of the US-Pakistan relationship with regard to war on terrorism.

PS. Bush family owns a cat named “India”, (not a dog).

The name in fact, has nothing to do with India. The cat was actually named after a former Texas Ranger baseball player, Ruben Sierra, who was called ``El Indio”. Please see: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/1454897.stm. However, that is not what Indians believed when the burned the effigy of George W. Bush. They were taken for a free ride by the Indian politicians, just like their Pakistani counterparts.

Nauman Nisar.

re: the article
This author makes some contradictory statements. Consider these:

``To be honest, the impact of this cartoon is virtually none on Pakistan ....``

``Still, most Pakistanis consider it a direct blow under the belt. Cultural differences are not enough to soothe their inflamed pride or to take the edge off that message that was bluntly conveyed to them via this cartoon.``
So, which is true? Were most Pakis offended or were they not?
Then, the author says the cartoon was not intended for Pakistan at all.
That is laughable.
To a layman like me (and i am sure the cartoon was intended for the public and not for Bush and party alone), the message was clear: Pak was being castigated for not doing enough to catch the prized catch viz OBL.
Of course, it is understandable why Pakis have their undies in a knot.
A ``dog`s like`` in the subcontinental context means: a miserable life. The same in US could mean: a comfortable life. A dog in US is well cared for, not so in South Asia.
Anyway, i think Indians in India too got upset one time when they learnt that George Bush has a dog by name India!
Sridhar

Pakistani reaction to the cartoon is a reaction to the relity of pak situation. for a long time the educated of pakistan have tried to state that pakistan has changed its postion on taliban because of a change in the values of pak society, a realisation about the consequences, But the truth is that the change was forced on pakistan, the call from Colin Powell. The cartoon is a true reflection of what the world thinks of pakistan, and the pakistnis are jolted by the truth, they hve seen their face in the mirror, the dogs face, listening to the one who feeds it.
That is why such strong reaction, no different from the reaction of pakistanis to my posts. The truth is a frightening to most pakistanis.

Pakistan’s reaction to the Washington Times’ cartoon is nothing but a reflection of Pakistan’s deep-seated insecurities. Pakistan is not a mature country, the maturity that comes with a country’s economic development followed by intellectual development of its large middle-class – the middle-class that forms the backbone of a stable country.

Pakistan is not strong and secure enough to laugh at itself. It is an economically very weak and emotionally very vulnerable country. Given where Pakistan stands today vis-à-vis the fast moving world around it in general and the Unites States in particular, that reaction is not surprising at all.

Very nice and a thoughtful article, Nauman...except that people like you are not part of the Pakistani group that is deeply hurting because of the weakness and vulnerability of its country. Your thoughts represent the intellectually mature and emotionally secure middle-class of a developed country, not of people of Pakistan.

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Good points made in this article. In fact, at a press conference a few months back in Washington with both Blair and Bush in attendance, Blair was asked what he had to say about the common talk about his being Bush`s poodle. Blair laughed it off. And that was the end of that. No calls in the British House of Commons for an apology from the reporter who asked this question to Blair`s face. No fuss in the public.

What explains the differing reactions between UK and Pakistan? I think it reflects different levels of confidence in the general public.


btw, dogs may be derided in pakistani culture, but it has nothing to do with islam and is in fact a reflection of the primitive nature of pakistani society: as gandhi pointed out - the level of civilization of a society can be gauged by how it treats dogs. In fact, in the Quran there is a story about some holy men and their dog who retreat into a cave and go to sleep (with the dog next to them). Another example of the vast gap between the pagan and primitive beliefs prevalent in pakistan led by the pagan priests aka the ulema; and the shining example of tolerance and civilized behavior reflected in the Quran that is venerated and ignored at the same time.

In South Asia, it is OK to behave like a dog or worse, and in most circles even an admired quality. And, someone points it out, and all hell breaks loose. Moral of Story, don`t call them dogs even though they behave like one or worse.

re: ntsyed # 3

``Even in the US and Europe, depiction of a person or nation as an animal is often meant as an insult``.

I would disagree. During the Second World War, the bulldog was the symbol of British defiance against Germany. The FOX NEWS is often refered to the ``junkyard dog of the Republican Party`` because it zealously guards the interests of the Republican Party.

The up roar of the Washington Times cartoon in Pakistan is nothing more than a rude awakening to the reality of our relationship with United States. There is no denying the fact that Pakistan is the hound dog of the United States and rudeness of the awareness comes from the fact that for too long we were in a self-denial about the true nature of our relationship with Washington.

Ciao

Re: # 3

Ntsyed

[I doubt the Pakistanis have lost the sense of humor, any more than the Americans have.]

I totally agree. Americans loose their sense of humor more often than it is perceived. Even Pop Star, George Michael has to go live on CNN and defend himself for his video “Shoot the dog”. Still many American callers to the program were mad as hell.

“Variable sensitivities” seem to be at play when a commercial in UK was outright banned which showed George W. Bush setting a video on fire after failing to play it.
See: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/tv_and_radio/2518151.stm

Other cultures may show “intolerance” too. Indians, in fact, protested strongly to Maxim Magazine when they published 23 computer generated cartoon images showing Gandhi beaten by a man. The magazine issued an apology later.

Nauman Nisar.

All this is...is evidence of how far Pakistan has to go towards becoming a rationale mature and democratic society. The hypocrisy factor has someone has earlier mentioned too is stunning...for god sakes it seems that daily US and other Western flags are burned..effigies of leaders too for that matter...are these not even more ``symbolic`` than some stupic WT cartoon... a paper that 80% of average Pakistanis wouldnt have under normal circumstances known to exist. The extreme hyperbole from the Pakistani leadership especially seems to be more than adequete evidence of how close the cartoon hits home...but they shouldnt fret there are about another 10 or so states that are ``frontline`` states in the ``war on terrorism`` ...and fundamentally if they are being forced to do a lot of Dubya`s dirty work....well that indeed is the price for 20 years of plying a religious fundamentalism based geo-political strategy in the region. What goes around..always comes around...

All this is...is evidence of how far Pakistan has to go towards becoming a rationale mature and democratic society. The hypocrisy factor has someone has earlier mentioned too is stunning...for god sakes it seems that daily US and other Western flags are burned..effigies of leaders too for that matter...are these not even more ``symbolic`` than some stupic WT cartoon... a paper that 80% of average Pakistanis wouldnt have under normal circumstances known to exist. The extreme hyperbole from the Pakistani leadership especially seems to be more than adequete evidence of how close the cartoon hits home...but they shouldnt fret there are about another 10 or so states that are ``frontline`` states in the ``war on terrorism`` ...and fundamentally if they are being forced to do a lot of Dubya`s dirty work....well that indeed is the price for 20 years of plying a religious fundamentalism based geo-political strategy in the region. What goes around..always comes around...

Why so much uproar over an editorial cartoon?


Most pakis think the decision to abandon the taliban was voluntary....They`re just shocked to see reality of their position...


One can interpret this cartoon as strong anti-Bush.


anti-Bush....from the washington times? That`s even more unlikely than the cartoonist showing pakistan as a dog because ``dogs are considered man`s best friend``.....


Pakistan solidly supports US where the interest of Pakistan and US overlaps, i.e., capturing Osama and its cohorts, withdrawing its support for Taliban and stabilizing Afghanistan.


Umm...okay...Pakistan voluntarily withdrew support for the taliban...and the taliban, which till 9/10 was providing strategic depth, suddenly became something that was against pakistan`s interests....and coincidentally, after a phone call from the state department with allusions to the stone age....mmkay...


Pakistan needs to have a consensus as to how far the nation could go.


How radical....citizens of a country having a say in how their country is run!!

Well said Nauman. I think our government, under duress from the opposition and pressure groups, had to make a mountain out of a mole hill. Obviously, demanding that the Whitehouse apologize for something like this was mal-targeted as the Whitehouse had nothing to do with this cartoon. A proper response would have been a cold and snide remark to the Washington Times accusing them of being politically inept and childish. An insult goes much farther than raising a hue and cry.

On a side note, US conservatives are crying foul over a billboard advertisement of a spanish radio station on a California highway leading to LA which reads Welcome to Los Angeles, after which the CA is crossed out and in place of it is written Mexico. So, we are not the only ones prones to prima donna histrionics.

Musharraf does deserve credit for showing some backbone and resisting American requests to send troops to Iraq. Plus the Pakistani government has never approved of the Iraq war. We are allies, but fortunately we have defined our limits.

May be ..... They were testing the temperature.....!!

Nauman, your point is well taken, especially the final sentence.

While the cartoon seems quite innocent from the general American public`s perspective, the political cartoonists are highly intelligent, much more informed, and politically astute to symbolize objects and characters in specific circumstances to get the point across. It is no uncommon to use dual-symbolism in their work, which on the surface says one thing yet gets another more acute message across...kinda like Anwer Maqsood style.

I doubt the Pakistanis have lost the sense of humor, any more than the Americans have. Bill Maher was vehemently denounced by the American public for claiming that right or wrong 9/11 suicide bomber were anything but cowards (as immediately labelled by GWB) who gave up their lives for their cause, whereas the US pilots dropping cluster bombs from high altitudes were, in his talk show ``Politically Correct``.

You`re right about cultural perceptions having more to do with outrage at the public level, and political jabbing at the govt./politician level.

I think the whole rukus is about US treating Pakistan as dog - a four legged, slobering, dumber than human, beast...period. The breed may mean something different to Westerners, but perhaps not to Pakistanis. It doesn`t matter how good the kind is, it is still a beast and cannot be equated a nation. Even in the US and Europe, depiction of a person or nation as an animal is often meant as an insult. Your own example of Blair in the music video is a proof of that. Then western women often use the term ``dogs`` while referring to men.

So, the outrage is not that unjustified. The Pakistani pro-US moderates were awaiting rewards for their loyalty and efficiency as human partners, not demotion to a lesser creature. But then again, this group got exactly what it deserves, and the anti-US group is naturally upset at being insulted despite its political stance. :-)~~

Reply to cartoon mania in Pakistan published on May 10, 2005 in The Washington Times

A DOG’S LIFE (AND TIMES)

``East is east and West is west, and never the twain shall meet.`` The jet airplane and the Internet have rendered a lot of Kipling`s eloquence irrelevant, but the old boy had a point. Cultures, if not necessarily at war, still clash.

Consider the noble dog. In the West we regard him as man`s best friend. For one thing, he sees and hears a lot, and he`ll never tell. Little old ladies have been known to bequeath fortunes to his interests. ``A gay dog`` was once a sly compliment for the man about town and with very different connotations than such a compliment would imply today. Shakespeare characterized mighty armies with canine metaphor (``let slip the dogs of war``). Great universities invoke him as mascot for their beloved athletic teams. Yalies sing a hymn to him: ``Bulldog, Bulldog, bow, wow, wow,`` and the Georgia Bulldogs are annually the scourge of college football. The most loyal Democrats of yesteryear proudly called themselves ``yellow dogs.`` Loyal Democrats of the present day style themselves ``the blue dogs,`` and our soldiers are ``working like dogs`` on far-flung fronts today in the interests of what our French friends celebrate as liberte, egalite, fraternite. Indeed, we regard the dog as one of God`s greatest gifts, one of the noblest expressions of patience, loyalty, kindness and devotion.

A dog, in short, has soul, if not a soul. But this, alas, doesn`t always translate accurately to other cultures. In much of the Islamic world, for example, the dog is not, not to put too fine a point on it, held in such high repute, and is often regarded as not much better than, say, the sole of a man`s shoe. You can offend a devout Muslim, as the editorial page of this newspaper has learned to our chagrin, with a canine comparison that would cheer a conscientious Christian.

Our Bill Garner, whom we regard as the most incisive and talented cartoonist at work on American newspapers, set out last week to express, in a cartoonist`s irreverent way, a little gratitude for Pakistan`s work in the pursuit and capture of Abu Faraj al-Libbi, believed to be the third-in-command of al Qaeda.

In an unexpected ``tribute`` to the long reach of the influence of this newspaper, the Pakistani parliament adopted, unanimously, a resolution decrying Mr. Garner`s cartoon, and the Pakistani embassy has protested ``an insult to the sentiments of the people of both Pakistan and the United States as it strengthens the hands of the extremists.`` This imputes more power to a mere newspaper than any newspaper deserves, but we take the embassy`s point and offer the assurance that no insult was intended. Other Pakistani politicians have demanded an apology from no less than the president of the United States. The suggestion that any American newspaper speaks for the government or a president betrays a profound ignorance of how America works. If an American president could prevent newspaper cartoonists from insulting, reviling, abusing, affronting and ``dissing`` politicians, he would not exercise this power in behalf of anyone but himself. Newspaper cartoonists have been insulting, reviling, abusing, affronting and ``dissing`` presidents for more than a century, and all that presidents can do about it is grin, bear it and ask for the originals, for framing and display on desk or wall.

For his part, Mr. Garner, who admires Pakistan and, we might as well say it, loves old hounds, meant no offense or injury. Indeed, quite the contrary: ``When I showed a dog bringing in a terrorist I did it in the spirit of goodwill and friendship that exists between the two countries. I did not mean anything disparaging.`` Nevertheless, he says he will find other metaphors next time: ``I now understand that it obviously is a very negative symbol in Pakistan. I hope they will have an understanding of what I intended, and will accept differences among religions and cultures.``

And if he knows what`s good for him, he`ll be careful about what he says about cats.



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I havnt seen any Americans crying like this when Pakistani papers show American Presidents as satan, chimps and all. Actually we`re quite alike, US and us. Hippocrits of the highest order.