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Education: An Abysmal Situation

Yahya Noori May 25, 2005

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#17 Posted by yahyanoori on May 28, 2005 9:47:57 am
In response to comments I received

Hi ladies and gentlemen

I appreciate your comments. At the moment I can only say that in advising Arabic to include in the curriculum I intend to suggest a way to uproot Mullah’s claims of ownership on Islam. When a common man will be able to read the religious scriptures with understanding he will no longer need the Mullah to explain the religion for him, which the Mullah does happily, but according to his own motives. This will help in eradication of extremism as the person truly understanding the spirit can never go wrong, as Islam is the religion of peace.

As per the cost, if a nation can provide million-dollar cars to the so-called nation’s representatives in the assembly, billions of dollars to the white elephants of defence, it can surely provide some money to provide quality teachers and teaching facilities.

As far as dreaming and wishing is concern, I am one of those people who believe in well wishing and seeing the glass half-full. There is no tax on it (up to now) and some day I believe, my dreams will come true.

Regarding the importance of Arabic for Muslims, I will Insahallah come up with a separate derailed article on it. (Just let me get rid of these never ending final year MBBS exams)

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#18 Posted by KaalChakra on May 29, 2005 10:41:33 pm
Sapoori and yahyanoori are right. Since all of one`s life`s decisions must be made in accordance with an Arabic book, it is not wise to let others translate the book for you. Mastering Arabic must be made compulsory, and the first order of business.

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#19 Posted by nqsh on May 30, 2005 2:23:12 pm
Whats with this arabic issue? I just dont get it why so many people here have objections only on learning arabic ? If a community wants to study a particular language for what so ever reasons, why dont the rest just learn to respect that.
You shoudnt have problems regarding opinions of people from other faiths, if your a true secular. Are you?

noori you said:
[1. All political parties should be forced to say goodbye to their student wings and all political activities inside the educational institutions should be EFFECTIVELY banned. The students should be told that serious actions whould be taken against them if they indulge in political activities. ]
To tell you something really good, this particular issue, which had been plaguing youth specially in metropolitan cities, has been resolved to some extent, for the last six to seven years. At least I can say for my university, which is one of the major unis in Pakistan. In the past , there had been a very strong hold of Jamiat here too, like many other universities in the rest of the country. Students dint had regular classes or exams, so instead of completing a regular course in 4 years, it took students five, even seven years at times, to gradute college. But things have literally turned the other way round, since the millitary govt. At present, not only the political activities of students have been effectively banned, with panelties, but also our sessions are being regulated very efficiently, and there are even some which are gonna complete before time.

And the rest of your suggestions, well your quite right. But the thing is they never ask ``us`` the students , the youth, when formulating thier never-revised education policies. After all who knows best , than the ones effected by their cramped systems. thats a dilema. But we shouldnt stop raising our voices.
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#20 Posted by bbabu on May 30, 2005 4:00:27 pm
nqsh #19

`` Whats with this arabic issue? I just dont get it why so many people here have objections only on learning arabic ? If a community wants to study a particular language for what so ever reasons, why dont the rest just learn to respect that.
You shoudnt have problems regarding opinions of people from other faiths, if your a true secular. Are you? ``

There is no problem in learning Arabic if you want to improve your chances of a job in the Middle East or if you want to became a learned Islamic scholar. It is bad public policy to mandate Arabic as a compulsory language over Urdu or English.
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#21 Posted by KaalChakra on May 31, 2005 12:46:12 am
bbabu

A vast majority of debate in Islamic communities can be summarized as follows -

X is Islamic.
X is not Islamic.

The Koran says Y.
The koran does not say Y.


Under such circumstances, it is imperative that people study the Koran in its original language. A deep mastery of Arabic is required; that too, before a person reaches 18 years of age. That can happen only if Arabic instruction is begun in earnest in elementary school and is strictly enforced for the next 13 years of a person`s education.



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#22 Posted by yahyanoori on May 31, 2005 7:56:33 am
You are quite right.
But students also love to join political parties because they also get a number of benefits like getting extra marks(unofficially), escaping from failures, indulging in a number of activites which are prohibited for neutral students. Above all these students have something which everyone longs for, POWER. They can do anything to anyone and no one asks, because they are political workers.
So to uproot politics, we will have to deprive them of these previlages.
Nobody will join a party, if he is not getting ``special facilities.``
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#23 Posted by haideri on May 31, 2005 8:33:06 am
Anybody in favor of Arabic is an idiot and should be shot.
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#24 Posted by yahyanoori on June 5, 2005 8:38:40 pm
Re: # 23
This is an uncivilized way to ignore othes point of view.
What else can i say!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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#25 Posted by azzerism on September 17, 2005 11:42:18 pm
I want to respond to your idea of ``yellow schools`` I am married to one of your Pakistani Yellow school graduates. She is working in the States as a highly qualified physician. Her brother also a graduate of a yellow school has an MBA. Now as far as ``luck`` is concerned I don`t buy it. Over and over again I have met very qualified professionals from Pakistan who attended NOT the private schools but the ``yellow schools`` and now live and work in The States. As a matter of fact if I were to conduct an informal survey the spoiled brats of private schools can`t make it in the competitive environment abroad.

When it comes to education, hard work and dedication is way more important then money or luck or the right schools.

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