Zehra Rizvi June 19, 2005
#195 Posted by echoboom on June 22, 2005 3:28:55 pm
Pre-Islamic tribal ( kufr) practices are still alive under the fancy names of ``tradition`` and ``heritage`` [ MoenjoDero & HaRRappa syndrome of the westernised scum]. The NGO`s are eager to take the muslims back to pre-Islamic kufr days and are using Mukhtar-mai
as a mascot to drum up support to do away with the lashes & hanging for such heinous crimes.
They very much want to encourage Haraamkaari & ``tolerant`` society so that their
agenda to ``Open-up-the oriffices`` is implemented.
Never ever! will it be allowed to happen.
Iran was going through similar ``events`` before the Shah was shoved to the dustbin of secularism. A similar case where the Shah was trying to save American thUggs against his own & wanted the criminals to be whisked out of the country to please his secularist Masters.
It must never ever be lost sight of that none of the KanjaRR NGO`s were part of the action , until a grant of $8000 was received from Canada to create an anti-Islam ``story``.
It backfired. It was a MULLAH who put his life on line & encouraged her to speak & himself spoke about it in his Khutbaas. IT was a SHARIAT court which convicted the animals but it was a SECULAR court which set 8 free; and the High court which set ALL free.
The rapist are english-educated, high-ups, landed ``gentry, Cantonement/civil-line kuttaas, westernised-scum, margarine muslims, merlot-munafiques--just like some dogooders here. Never any MULLAHS, always Ba Ba Blacksheep. Even Benazir`s best friend, while she was PM, was raped by a Ba Ba Blacksheep--Zilch happened. Tariq Ali, the commie`s, `honour` never stirred. She was related to him ( I think thru Shaukat Hayat). He was busy doing his do-gooding in a western way.
And here the Khusraa-KanjarRR is crowing as if he has sighted the christmas moon.
The excitement now of the KanjaRRs and Khusraa Pakistanis is understandible. The maalik called! The chanting of ``Meray Maalik bulaa loa Washington mujhhay`` worked.
No wonder Nilofer Bakhtiar called in parliament that these (Asma Jahangir) NGO`s are always looking for any opportunity to be with their ``John & Johnny walkers````--well said Nilofer--you sound like my twin. JazaakAllah!
from:
www.mukhtarmai.com
When the local imam, or Islamic cleric, heard of what had happened to Mai, he used his position at the pulpit to speak out against the injustice that had been done and to call for Mai`s condemners and attackers to be brought to trial before a civil court. The balance of political power that had once favored the attackers was slowly beginning to shift. The imam encouraged Mai to file an official complaint with the police. Mai filed the complaint, which was at first ignored.
She did not give up. Her attackers had assumed she would be too ashamed to reveal what had happened, but with the assistance of her friends and the imam, she got word out to the local and international media. In a post-9/11 world where the Pakistani government was eager to prove that it was on the side of law and order, this media attention was enough to shame the civil authorities into action. The tribal elders and the volunteer rapists were brought to trial; six were sentenced to hang.
ai and her family were pleased with the verdict, not only because it represented justice for Mai, but because they felt it would help to break the authority of panchiat courts and discourage the practice of karo kari rapes.
``God has provided justice to me,`` Mai told reporters at the time. ``If more courts start giving decisions like this, I am sure that rapes will be reduced, if not stopped totally. I am satisfied with the decision.``
As part of the settlement, Mai was given the equivalent of about $8,000 in compensation - a very large sum in rural Pakistan. Perhaps fearing that Pakistan`s reputation would be hurt further if Mai were to suffer any retribution in her village, the government also offered to buy her a home in cosmopolitan Islamabad, where she would live a life of relative luxury in a place where no one knew anything about her past.
Mai declined those offers. Instead of leaving, she took the $8,000 and used it to start a school for girls in Meerwala, the village`s first. At this school, Mai and her friends work to provide young girls with the knowledge and understanding that will give them more power in the world, more awareness of their rights, and more dignity to fall back on when those rights are challenged.
as a mascot to drum up support to do away with the lashes & hanging for such heinous crimes.
They very much want to encourage Haraamkaari & ``tolerant`` society so that their
agenda to ``Open-up-the oriffices`` is implemented.
Never ever! will it be allowed to happen.
Iran was going through similar ``events`` before the Shah was shoved to the dustbin of secularism. A similar case where the Shah was trying to save American thUggs against his own & wanted the criminals to be whisked out of the country to please his secularist Masters.
It must never ever be lost sight of that none of the KanjaRR NGO`s were part of the action , until a grant of $8000 was received from Canada to create an anti-Islam ``story``.
It backfired. It was a MULLAH who put his life on line & encouraged her to speak & himself spoke about it in his Khutbaas. IT was a SHARIAT court which convicted the animals but it was a SECULAR court which set 8 free; and the High court which set ALL free.
The rapist are english-educated, high-ups, landed ``gentry, Cantonement/civil-line kuttaas, westernised-scum, margarine muslims, merlot-munafiques--just like some dogooders here. Never any MULLAHS, always Ba Ba Blacksheep. Even Benazir`s best friend, while she was PM, was raped by a Ba Ba Blacksheep--Zilch happened. Tariq Ali, the commie`s, `honour` never stirred. She was related to him ( I think thru Shaukat Hayat). He was busy doing his do-gooding in a western way.
And here the Khusraa-KanjarRR is crowing as if he has sighted the christmas moon.
The excitement now of the KanjaRRs and Khusraa Pakistanis is understandible. The maalik called! The chanting of ``Meray Maalik bulaa loa Washington mujhhay`` worked.
No wonder Nilofer Bakhtiar called in parliament that these (Asma Jahangir) NGO`s are always looking for any opportunity to be with their ``John & Johnny walkers````--well said Nilofer--you sound like my twin. JazaakAllah!
from:
www.mukhtarmai.com
When the local imam, or Islamic cleric, heard of what had happened to Mai, he used his position at the pulpit to speak out against the injustice that had been done and to call for Mai`s condemners and attackers to be brought to trial before a civil court. The balance of political power that had once favored the attackers was slowly beginning to shift. The imam encouraged Mai to file an official complaint with the police. Mai filed the complaint, which was at first ignored.
She did not give up. Her attackers had assumed she would be too ashamed to reveal what had happened, but with the assistance of her friends and the imam, she got word out to the local and international media. In a post-9/11 world where the Pakistani government was eager to prove that it was on the side of law and order, this media attention was enough to shame the civil authorities into action. The tribal elders and the volunteer rapists were brought to trial; six were sentenced to hang.
ai and her family were pleased with the verdict, not only because it represented justice for Mai, but because they felt it would help to break the authority of panchiat courts and discourage the practice of karo kari rapes.
``God has provided justice to me,`` Mai told reporters at the time. ``If more courts start giving decisions like this, I am sure that rapes will be reduced, if not stopped totally. I am satisfied with the decision.``
As part of the settlement, Mai was given the equivalent of about $8,000 in compensation - a very large sum in rural Pakistan. Perhaps fearing that Pakistan`s reputation would be hurt further if Mai were to suffer any retribution in her village, the government also offered to buy her a home in cosmopolitan Islamabad, where she would live a life of relative luxury in a place where no one knew anything about her past.
Mai declined those offers. Instead of leaving, she took the $8,000 and used it to start a school for girls in Meerwala, the village`s first. At this school, Mai and her friends work to provide young girls with the knowledge and understanding that will give them more power in the world, more awareness of their rights, and more dignity to fall back on when those rights are challenged.
#194 Posted by _digit on June 22, 2005 1:20:16 pm
ShoreSahib,
Here`s a digit for you:

Now ask this guy how American you are...
Here`s a digit for you:

Now ask this guy how American you are...
#193 Posted by ShoreSahib on June 22, 2005 12:18:15 pm
Re: # 183
Do you have a point or are you one digit short of a full finger?
Do you have a point or are you one digit short of a full finger?
#192 Posted by temporal on June 22, 2005 10:31:55 am
Laanat-ullah #190
froths his hatred and intolerance
in the language he condemns
insecurista abul-hates!
froths his hatred and intolerance
in the language he condemns
insecurista abul-hates!
#191 Posted by BeeJay on June 22, 2005 9:53:02 am
Zehra,
Sorry I could not comment on this earlier! Been away.
Thanks for this very personal and very heart-felt narrative! I don’t agree that one needs to identify with any particular group to establish any kind of religious identity, which essentially is (and ought to remain) a personal issue, but you have every right to state your mind on issues and pursue what you wish to. That FREEDOM is essentially what defines an American. Please keep up your overall focus and good work!
Notes:
[It does confirm as the whole world knows, Americans are far and by large, idiots.]
I guess that would include me (no new information there). But YOU too?
#6 by scout
I agree.
#9 by miriamk
Zehra, pay no attention to this interactor. She has a track record of being on all sides of all issues.
#15 by ana
[…i thought i had more to say, but my tummy`s rumbing]
At least SOMEBODY around here has got her priorities right!
#29 by kaalchakra
[…Someone should figure out (they must already have) why some people almost relish the constant enrichment of their identities, while others dread its very prospect.]
Kaal, NOBODY dreads the prospect of an enrichment of identity, especially of the material variety!
#42 by scout
Totally disagree with you on this one! U.S. voters make a choice based on what is available overall and not based on a single issue, like most of the chowk crowd.
#60 by ana
[…as usual i express myself badly on a monday morning on an empty stomach, ..]
Absolutely! I know exactly how you feel!
#63 by ana
[…or does he eat his own not so fruity TuTTi. ]
Food does have a way of forcing its way into our thought processes!
#122 by miriamk
[…. i notice as i write this that tahmed32 sums it up quite nicely in his post #121.]
Birds of a feather! I KNEW it!
#123 by temporal
[...aik bay naam o nishaan qab`r...a speck of dust on the vast shoreline!...here today, gone tomorrow...kahani khat`m]
Hence the name!
#171 by sajal
Good points!
#190 Posted by echoboom on June 22, 2005 9:51:17 am
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#189 Posted by iron_mask on June 22, 2005 9:18:45 am
#184 T-man you pulled it off (ofcourse along with others ;-) ), now it is time to make best us of this opportunity. Well done.
#188 Posted by tahmed32 on June 22, 2005 9:10:59 am
t #187 dont try to pull a fast one. you have a special ``in`` with Condi Rice. :-)
#187 Posted by temporal on June 22, 2005 8:50:53 am
#185:
not so fast bud
i did not do it
this was brought about by hundreds and thousands of concerned pakistanis and their friends by their dedicated and relentless pursuit of justice
not so fast bud
i did not do it
this was brought about by hundreds and thousands of concerned pakistanis and their friends by their dedicated and relentless pursuit of justice
#186 Posted by tahmed32 on June 22, 2005 8:43:46 am
three cheers for condi rice. and for mukhtaran mai.
#184 Posted by temporal on June 22, 2005 8:21:54 am
folks thank you and keep writing, pledging and working to dismantle the verstiges of the army-mullah nexus in pakistan
a very small victory for the righteous
a big defeat for abdul-hate`s regressionary tactcis
Mukhtaran free to travel: US
WASHINGTON, June 21: Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice secured a personal pledge from Pakistan that Mukhtaran Mai will be allowed to visit the United States, officials said on Tuesday.
a very small victory for the righteous
a big defeat for abdul-hate`s regressionary tactcis
Mukhtaran free to travel: US
WASHINGTON, June 21: Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice secured a personal pledge from Pakistan that Mukhtaran Mai will be allowed to visit the United States, officials said on Tuesday.
#183 Posted by _digit on June 22, 2005 8:21:06 am
ShoreSahib,
``I am a Muslim, an American and I wholeheartedly opposed the War in Iraq.``
You know, we in the West do like to tow this line...now I`ll ignore for a sec that I`m Canadian...but really, who are we kidding? The bottom line is you ARE supporting the war in Iraq, like it or not. Your moral stance may reflect the fact that you`re a ``nice guy``, but ultimately means squat.
I choose to be perpetually pissed off at myself for this...well okay, maybe only some of the time. But come on, convincing ourselves that it`s all good....who are we kidding?
Well...whatever makes your stay more comfortable I guess...
``I am a Muslim, an American and I wholeheartedly opposed the War in Iraq.``
You know, we in the West do like to tow this line...now I`ll ignore for a sec that I`m Canadian...but really, who are we kidding? The bottom line is you ARE supporting the war in Iraq, like it or not. Your moral stance may reflect the fact that you`re a ``nice guy``, but ultimately means squat.
I choose to be perpetually pissed off at myself for this...well okay, maybe only some of the time. But come on, convincing ourselves that it`s all good....who are we kidding?
Well...whatever makes your stay more comfortable I guess...
#182 Posted by _digit on June 22, 2005 7:41:34 am
ana,
``iran is one of the only free lands in the Muslim world?!``
...as in free from hegemony...not as in personal liberties ``free``...and actually, it must be said that it perhaps has the most vibrant political culture in any Muslim state.
``iran is one of the only free lands in the Muslim world?!``
...as in free from hegemony...not as in personal liberties ``free``...and actually, it must be said that it perhaps has the most vibrant political culture in any Muslim state.
#181 Posted by Dash_Dot on June 22, 2005 7:40:12 am
#180 wheel of time shankarji`s bhang....naaahh! being on chowk and the whiff of decent afghani seeping trhough ts portals are good enuf.
that aside : again it is what people want to believe....if they believe there is a god then THERE IS A GOD. If they dont then there is no god. It doesnot matter.....its always the case of we all go back to the old soup. ashes to ashes and dust to dust thing.
Theories that make external defiance the primary human concern must turn internal lynching into an obligation.
care to expand on this. This is way too aphoric. soul searching ( a form of internal lynching) and all that....
that aside : again it is what people want to believe....if they believe there is a god then THERE IS A GOD. If they dont then there is no god. It doesnot matter.....its always the case of we all go back to the old soup. ashes to ashes and dust to dust thing.
Theories that make external defiance the primary human concern must turn internal lynching into an obligation.
care to expand on this. This is way too aphoric. soul searching ( a form of internal lynching) and all that....
#180 Posted by KaalChakra on June 22, 2005 7:27:45 am
harish_hyd
Theories that make external defiance the primary human concern must turn internal lynching into an obligation.
Nameless
Keep Shankarji`s bhang near you, and bliss shall not be too far :)
But seriously, at a point, science merges with mysticism, though never with what people traditionally believe to be `religion.`
Theories that make external defiance the primary human concern must turn internal lynching into an obligation.
Nameless
Keep Shankarji`s bhang near you, and bliss shall not be too far :)
But seriously, at a point, science merges with mysticism, though never with what people traditionally believe to be `religion.`
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