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The Alternative Muslim Identity

Zehra Rizvi June 19, 2005

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#78 Posted by arjun_m on June 20, 2005 1:40:24 pm
#77 by ana on June 20, 2005 1:32pm PT


i should have thought kama sutra would have been up there already.


KS..for the guys on my goo list?


and now i`m curious. what would you consider to be one of the best movies ever made?


Saving Private Ryan
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#77 Posted by ana on June 20, 2005 1:32:47 pm
arjun:

i should have thought kama sutra would have been up there already. *rolling eyes*. aap ka andaz aur, humara aur. different strokes for different folks. i could say i`m disappointed that you thought ``lost in translation`` was one of the worst movies ever made, but celluloid affects everyone differently.

and now i`m curious. what would you consider to be one of the best movies ever made?

p. s. mira nair rockssss! *whispers*
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#75 Posted by arjun_m on June 20, 2005 1:23:03 pm
#69 by Saminasha on June 20, 2005 12:29pm PT


funnily enough my film studies friend says hysterical blindness is an accurate view of female self deception....


Now that you`ve put it this way, the hysterical blindness DVD has moved up on my list of christmas presents for guys on my goo list...
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#74 Posted by Adroit on June 20, 2005 1:17:58 pm
Useless!!!
Depressed Anarchism usually gives rise to such surmises as your thoughts in this article. What surprises me is that what you postulate isn`t quite the case save an effort to shift a belief system to your extremely well thought of negative tropism. How could you not have seen this from the veil of your, shall we say, oeil perspicace!

...The echo is the call itself,
if you can solve the puzzle!
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#76 Posted by ShoreSahib on June 20, 2005 1:29:30 pm
Re: # 74
What belief system?
Is there only one?
Is there only one Islam?
Is the Islam of Naqshbandis the same as the Islam of Devbandis?
Is the Islam of Indonesians the same as that of the Morroccans?
Is the Islam of Egyptians the same as that of Saudians?
Is there one Islam?

Why are you surprised?
We are not!

You and your kind who have abducted Islam to your own devices. You have made it a Chattel, a slave of your egos and perverted comprehensions.

There is no veil before your eyes. They are simply sealed shut.
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#90 Posted by zero_tolerance on June 20, 2005 3:37:00 pm
Re: # 76
perverted comprehensions

LoL, Shore, you seriously are screwed in the head... Refering to the #70 post you made... you said:

I am a Muslim. I am gay. I am not going to Hell and I will not let anyone tell me that I am. Last time I checked they werent sitting on the Throne of Allah.

Damn, whos the pervert now... :S For one, Allah needs no throne, theek... if you cry democracy and freespeech all the time, be ready to listen to some shit like going to hell. Lets not be hypocritical at the same time, ok?

I, myself am all cool with who you vote for, thats your right, coz you must have made a wise decision doing so. Or not doing the otherway round. But please refrain from accusing others of hijacking Islam, when you yourself dont have a good grasp of it. And in the same ignorance attempt hijacking it for your own good.

The stuff about ONE ISLAM, in your post, really doesnt stick out, what is it about ?!

The most admirable of all this could be the activism amongst minorities, like Muslim in the US, all working to get their rights.

Goodnight.
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#97 Posted by ShoreSahib on June 20, 2005 8:15:15 pm
Re: # 90
Dear Sir,
I would refer you to Ayah Al Kursi.

You calling me a pervert, does not make me one. You can say whatever you wish, you have the right. I shall not be the fullfilment of your ideas of me. Never.
You may condemn me to Hell you want, so be it.
But you will taste death just like I would. Let our God be our judge.
It is the hell of your creation, and May you never experience it.

Peace upon you.

God is Truth.
God is Love.
God is Peace.


Om Shanti, Shanti, Shanti hi.
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#115 Posted by zero_tolerance on June 21, 2005 7:13:16 am
Re: # 97
I am in no position to call u a pervert, condemn you to hell, or call you an infidel. I myself might be one of these, I just not have realized it yet. And this goes out to all the people who think their opinion about others is uber to everyone else`s!

I, too, wish you peace, love and truth!
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#73 Posted by zero_tolerance on June 20, 2005 1:02:25 pm
Well, comments like these:
especially if you are planning on responding to this article with all manner of idiotic comments.
Will encourage idiotic replies like mine, :S, sadly your article was not worth reading, it was incomplete, repetitive and poorly structured. What were u? A Political Science or Arts major. tsk tsk... Rather call this section `Zebra`s Crossing, move out of the way!`
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#72 Posted by ana on June 20, 2005 12:50:08 pm
queenie,

rest assured queen. i have no intentions of locking horns with the ``great master of deception`` known to us as farangi kush, ghalib zaman, hamzaad afaqui, chusni, echoboom, and all his other avatars including those ``rumored`` female ones. jahan tak mera khayal hai, he can partake of his own goo, and that of the goras he lives amongst wherever the heck he is in north america, and let that taste affect his own demons.

he is not the center of this article. but some of us call it as we see it, a pathetic twisted sap of munaafique himself. . . this coming from someone who has never denied her own hypocrisy, but to go as far as to call men and women kanjaRRs and rundees, who like him, live in this blessed hemisphere, oh, he`s got nerve. i`d say balls, but fortunately i can only say nerve.

i`ve fallen to the bait already. but heck, nice try at baiting some more.
ana
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#71 Posted by Saminasha on June 20, 2005 12:37:03 pm
Re: Bhabi and Suleri

Suleri called for a more fluid examination of power in her critique of ``otherness``-particularly in Meatless Days. In describing the fluctuating reaches of agency performed by her fam, Suleri pointed out that power collects at certain institutional policy points and dictates the actual freedom citizens have.

Bhaba calls for a more precise reading of how identities are formed, are constantly evolving and power is negotiated-so that we dont have the easy binaries of good/bad, black/white, muslim/non muslim. He and scholars/artists like Anne Deavere Smith, Ann DuCille, Lynda Barry (a Pinay graphic artist) call for a more transnational understanding of identity politics and linkages.
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#70 Posted by ShoreSahib on June 20, 2005 12:30:01 pm
Zehra Sahiba,
Amen Sister.
It gives me a great deal of pleasure to read this article. I am with you, and so are lots of not very vocal Muslims.

This is our HOME. I agree wholeheartedly. Allah Bless America, One nation under Canada.

I am a Muslim. I vote ProChoice.

I am a Muslim. I am gay. I am not going to Hell and I will not let anyone tell me that I am. Last time I checked they werent sitting on the Throne of Allah.

I am a Muslim, an American and I wholeheartedly opposed the War in Iraq.

I am a Pakistani Muslim, and would I vote Republican. HELL NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hugs to you Zehra jee.
Khuda aap ko salamat aur bohat khush rakhey.



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#69 Posted by Saminasha on June 20, 2005 12:29:33 pm
aRJUN

funnily enough my film studies friend says hysterical blindness is an accurate view of female self deception....
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#68 Posted by Saminasha on June 20, 2005 12:24:17 pm
Well, to Mr. Amir Saulat Jafri of Canada`s (aka Echoboom`s) attempts at parables:

Dr. Henry Louis Gates Jr., one of the foremost scholars of Af. Am. Lit points out in his stellar preface ``Talking Books`` to the Norton Anthology of African American Literature, that the belief systems, institutions and implementation of slavery resulted:

1. in a Black Aesthetic that was purely American and ALSO African
2. this Black Aesthetic was created through the innumerable narratives and experiences of ENslaved PEOPLE (Diaper Sahib, ``slave`` is an objectifying term)
3. Slavery tested the very principles of the Enlightenment; Phyllis Wheatley, A WOMAN and the first Af Am to publish in North America EMBODIED a profound refutation of white superiority notions
4. W.E.B DuBois, Jean Toomer, James Baldwin, Lucilled Clifton and Gwendolyn Brooks, all acknowledged masters writers call for a continued Black Aesthetic that is based on unflinching self interrogation-esp. in issues of gender, class, compulsive heterosexuality.
5. Black American writers have been alligned with literary movements world wide
6. Black American writers are constantly questioning the construct of ``authencity``.

Just for the record.

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#67 Posted by queen_cut_paste on June 20, 2005 11:47:14 am
now that echoboom-boom has turned, watch the heat being turned on. Ana and arjun_m have set the ball rolling, this game is going to reach double hundred
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#66 Posted by ana on June 20, 2005 11:36:17 am
arjun:

the first choice is OUT. dude it is either both 2. and 3. or one of those. wouldn`t be surprised if he thought gora goo was somehow different than his own. but please, he would be more than happy to discuss goo and connect it to this article. . . don`t encourage the mad ``munaafique!``
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