The Alternative Muslim Identity

Re: # 90
Dear Sir,
I would refer you to Ayah Al Kursi.

You calling me a pervert, does not make me one. You can say whatever you wish, you have the right. I shall not be the fullfilment of your ideas of me. Never.
You may condemn me to Hell you want, so be it.
But you will taste death just like I would. Let our God be our judge.
It is the hell of your creation, and May you never experience it.

Peace upon you.

God is Truth.
God is Love.
God is Peace.


Om Shanti, Shanti, Shanti hi.

re: ShoreSahib # 95

I have been saying the same thing. All these gentlemen, that Hindus mistakenly respect, spread Islam-1 in India by talking of Islam-2.

What we are waiting to learn what Islam-2 has to do with Islam-1 :)

By the way, I used to provoke brother temporal by calling him a Hindu, which upset him greatly. Islam-2 very soon degenerates into Islam-1 sensibility.

Re: # 98
I am confused. What do u mean by Islam 1 and Islam 2. Describe them please. I have an idea about what you mean, and I am confused. Please clarify.
:)

#98:

By the way, I used to provoke brother temporal by calling him a Hindu, which upset him greatly. Islam-2 very soon degenerates into Islam-1 sensibility.

as iqbal said:
such kehdooN aye Brahmin gur tu bura na maanay
t’ray sanam kudON kay boo’t hoga’aye haiN puranay

correction: not provoke…irritate

...app srif kehtay haiN sunntay nahin (you state do not listen)....you have been here for a few years (other nicks included) and surely you know where i stand…am engaged in an uphill and seemingly unending strive to become an insaan first…as a prelude to become a muslim…just to refresh read the 05/06/19 entry from pehlay insaan onwards…

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ss:

since you know urdu let me share something from an incomplete poem…

boo’t hO, khuda hO
sach hO, jhoot hO
tum hO ya woh hO
afratafri o badhawasi
ka hay raj
her soo aaj

boo’t to boo’t hee thehray
yeh kaisi ras’m chali hay
kay her insaaN
khuda hu’a chahta hay
oos khud saakhta khuda ko choRhiyay
dil tO humara bhar gaya in khud saakhta
khudaON say kay jin
ka hay raj
her soo aaj

line 11/12 maiN oos or in say shOkhi paida karnay ki koshish ki hay…

rgds

t

i saw that coming. . .

#92 by ana

“do you read, write and speak sindhi? if so, i`ve come across some sindhi poems and i have just a few questions. okay, maybe one.”

Lo! Pehlay Punjabi, Urdu aur phir Farsi …Abb Sindhi ki shamat Aie hai! Khair Hunaa Allah sian sindhi jo bhalloo kandus!

I can read and speak well and write.. so so. Please don’t bring in Classical stuff but I will try to help….

//Thinking...
Discuss consulting fee first….Khair...

re: ShoreSahib # 99

We will take it up some other time, my friend. May be on its own. Ana is rightly irritated by this predictable merry-go-round.

Just to hint at the enormity of the subcontinental tragedy (and why this one issue is of such importance), though, consider this:

Baba Farid
Baba Bulhey Shah
Nizam Ud din awliya
Salim ud din Chishti
Baba Bhit Shah

Definitely not, Guru Nanak

produced the progeny of Iqbal, that brother temporal quotes.

Islam-2 to Islam-1 is a very short distance.

What has Iqbal to do with the great babas?

#103 by kaalchakra

“Baba Bhit Shah”

That is very disappointing…
Bhit shah is the name of the place where Shah Abdul Latif Bhitai is buried!

HP,

the reason i asked you about reading sindhi, was because i was at attiya dawood`s website, i don`t know if you`ve ever visited it, but you`ve probably seen her poems anyway. khair, i have no idea what sindhi is all about, but i was nevertheless able to locate her original sindhi version of ``sach ki talaash maiN`` and i found the script fascinating, and incomprehensible. . . because i don`t know what the chaar nuktay are, or how the nuktay differ between sindhi and urdu, and how the Topi (that`s what i call what is on top of the ray to make it aRay in urdu, i don`t recall what it is actually called) is used. i`d try to post one of her poems here but i think chowk staff being more vigilant enforcers about posting images might remove it.

i was able to recognize some of the words because they are similar, some are borrowed from urdu, some similar to punjabi. . . vangar is ``like`` or ``as`` in punjabi, i didn`t know it was the same in sindhi. i tried finding a sindhi website online with no luck. . . might you know of a resource online i can easily access? i can try to find a dictionary at the library or the foreign language section of my favorite bookstore, but i thought i`d check with you first. :)

so they`re not classical poems. . . they`re written in very simple language for all to read and understand.

thanks in advance!

p. s. and i`m a poor college student so please be merciful in regards to fees!

HP

Sorry about that!

Sindhi Akhhar( letters) are Arabic. Chaar(four) nuktay would sound like “chh” as in Chhokri. Now the topi is exactly what it is, a topi. Like in LaRRki.
Now I am not into poetry but this” sach ki talaash main” is Urdu. In salees Sindhi it would be ``Sach ji talaash maaN!`` Post me the URL.

//Initial consulting no charge! But subsequent…

HP:

here`s the URL for the poem (there are others as well if you want to check those out):

http://attiyadawood.com/S06.html.

thanks again!

Ana,

``In salees Sindhi it would be ``Sach ji talaash maaN!``

In better Sindhi it would be ``Sach ji looRR maaN`` Still better would be ``Sach ji Gorbhaa``. This is tragic. Sach is an urdu addition to Sindhi but even I cant remember the original Sindhi word for the sach right now. I know ``Koorrh`` for Jhoot!

koorrh is also in the poem, i think. because it`s about one eye seeing the truth, and the other eye seeing a lie.

one of these days, hopefully soon, i will learn sindhi. haan ab sindhi ki shaamat aanay wali hai. :)

thanks so much HP!

ana,
Yes! I looked at the site.
it is more urdu than Sindhi. Poor Sindhis are going to lose their language too. Where is my Sindhi nationalism? Try reading this paper www.dailykawish.com. You might find my name there somewhere too. Another one www.dailyibrat.com
Both are in Salees Sindhi. Quality news and great ed-ops.