Farzana Versey May 23, 2005
#17 Posted by HP on May 23, 2005 2:43:38 pm
ShoreSahib
“THey protest the unproven reports of the desecration of a book, and create mischief, shed blood, burn buildings, and create general unrest in their own countries.”
The Newsweek story may be unproven because it was designed to be unproven but there should not be any doubt in any one`s mind that the Quran was desecrated. We can discuss what desecration is but something was done to it. It is a war and I invite you to go thru the history books in every war where Muslims were against non Muslims, the Quran was desecrated. Remember those Mongols, they ran riot in Baghdad, burnt down the city and ignited all libraries to end the last Muslim dynasty in the Middle East. Were they ever found saving the Quran from desecration?
When you make every war a religious war, as Muslims do all the time, the Quran is going to be attacked, both physically and intellectually. It is a huge symbol for Muslims and the Mullah. Mullah gets up in arms only when the Quran is physically attacked but never wants to engage anybody in academic war of words about Quran. Physically harm the Quran, and all hell would break loose. What kind of non-sense is that?
You wanna fight for the Quran, fight with words and challenge the challenger but what is the point getting outraged over a presumed desecration?
Throwing the Quran in a well is okay no matter how dirty that water may be but throwing it anywhere else and especially when that incident is reported in a Western news magazine makes you kill your own. What kind of fury is that?
I am sure the US government allowed Newsweek to publish the news on purpose to humiliate the Mullah and I see nothing wrong with it. It is a war and if you call this jihad or a religious war, then be ready for some collateral damage. Be it the Quran or some symbolic mosque in Jerusalem!
Mullah is being battered, and the US is going to rub it in and rub it in so much that these mullahs will get tired of it and forget both cave dwellers in Tora bora!
Again, my question is; what mullahs are going to do….fly planes again…Ha! Ha!!
#18 Posted by jang on May 23, 2005 2:57:35 pm
like farzana, no muslims, atheist or not, are really upset over this. these protests are all a political tamasha. muslims are actually more upset over green tiles in public bathrooms.
#19 Posted by dharma on May 23, 2005 3:12:01 pm
who are the real idol worshippers?
muslims seem to be the real idolators based on the importance they
give to their symbols, be it mosques, books or kabah.
muslims seem to be the real idolators based on the importance they
give to their symbols, be it mosques, books or kabah.
#20 Posted by arjun_m on May 23, 2005 6:02:03 pm
damn...it`s finally happened...I agree with a majority of the points made in FV`s article..this and if the nationals and the redskins reach the playoffs, the world is going to end....
#22 Posted by arjun_m on May 23, 2005 7:05:18 pm
#4 by Urstruly on May 23, 2005 10:49am PT
So how does a devout muslim like you think about YOUR tax $$ paying for this?
So how does a devout muslim like you think about YOUR tax $$ paying for this?
#23 Posted by echoboom on May 23, 2005 7:38:56 pm
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#24 Posted by arjun_m on May 23, 2005 8:03:29 pm
#23 by echoboom on May 23, 2005 7:38pm PT
``Unless George Bush appears on International TV and apologises the momentum & pressure must continue.
So if Dubya doesn`t go on TV and apologize, muslims will kill more muslims?
Am I the only one who thinks that`s crazy?
``Unless George Bush appears on International TV and apologises the momentum & pressure must continue.
So if Dubya doesn`t go on TV and apologize, muslims will kill more muslims?
Am I the only one who thinks that`s crazy?
#25 Posted by nazarhayatkhan on May 23, 2005 8:59:08 pm
FV
You are Right. First that over-reaction over the Dog Thing and now this desecration. And all this while our text books ridicule other faiths.
nhk
#26 Posted by arstoo on May 23, 2005 9:05:25 pm
Dear Farzana
Why you had to write such an article( which is mildly critical of fundamentalist) ?
I am woried about your well being. What overpowered you and made you to commit such a folly? You should have stayed with your earlier style of writings. Like criticising Indian govt., exposing hindu plots ( real or imagined).
Why for heaven sake you write this article?
Why you had to write such an article( which is mildly critical of fundamentalist) ?
I am woried about your well being. What overpowered you and made you to commit such a folly? You should have stayed with your earlier style of writings. Like criticising Indian govt., exposing hindu plots ( real or imagined).
Why for heaven sake you write this article?
#27 Posted by bbabu on May 23, 2005 9:14:42 pm
soysauce #11
`` Air America is a left-of-center radio broadcast service. Citing the vigorous denials from the military and the Bush adminstration that the Koran was desecrated, an AA program host commented that the pentagon is looking into ways of torturing muslim prisoners without hurting their feelings. Sums it up pretty well I think. ``
Burning the Quran is better than pulling fingernails and breaking bones
`` Air America is a left-of-center radio broadcast service. Citing the vigorous denials from the military and the Bush adminstration that the Koran was desecrated, an AA program host commented that the pentagon is looking into ways of torturing muslim prisoners without hurting their feelings. Sums it up pretty well I think. ``
Burning the Quran is better than pulling fingernails and breaking bones
#28 Posted by bbabu on May 23, 2005 9:16:55 pm
Urstruly #4
``So an atheist is NOT offended by the desecration of Qura`n, so what is your point.``
I pity you if you think flushing the Quran down the toilet is the greatest sin. I am sure believers do worse things than that. I never see the outrage.
``So an atheist is NOT offended by the desecration of Qura`n, so what is your point.``
I pity you if you think flushing the Quran down the toilet is the greatest sin. I am sure believers do worse things than that. I never see the outrage.
#30 Posted by ana on May 23, 2005 9:37:04 pm
arjun,
of course you agree with much of this. afterall it is not tumhaara des mahaan being criticised, nor does this have to do much with left or right. it might have quite a bit to do with why you`re atheist perhaps in terms of religious hypocrisy though? just a wild guess.
i couldn`t resist!
ana
of course you agree with much of this. afterall it is not tumhaara des mahaan being criticised, nor does this have to do much with left or right. it might have quite a bit to do with why you`re atheist perhaps in terms of religious hypocrisy though? just a wild guess.
i couldn`t resist!
ana
#31 Posted by moazammudasar on May 23, 2005 10:29:51 pm
Ferzana Versey:
You quote ``If Islamic societies want to worry about desecration, they should start looking at how they treat their own people. Then they should, if they must, consolidate into a progressive conglomerate with diverse schools of thought adding dimensions to their ideology.``
I could not agree more with you on this theoreum and will attempt to expound on how Pan-Islamic intellectual integration can materialise. The last time a true Trans National Islamic cause was flaunted on the international political arena and under the UN auspices was during the Bhutto era. Bhutto veered toward Socialist Islam.
Since then many attempts toward pan-Islamic integration are mere cannon fodder being rubber stamped by Western dictates. The OIC (Organisation for Islamic Countries) is an interesting fora though a lot of its policy-decisions are not given due weight in international relations.
A more poignant Islamic revivalism and a genuine opening of the gates of intellectual, non-violent Ijtehad is needed. More ballots. Less bullets.
You quote ``If Islamic societies want to worry about desecration, they should start looking at how they treat their own people. Then they should, if they must, consolidate into a progressive conglomerate with diverse schools of thought adding dimensions to their ideology.``
I could not agree more with you on this theoreum and will attempt to expound on how Pan-Islamic intellectual integration can materialise. The last time a true Trans National Islamic cause was flaunted on the international political arena and under the UN auspices was during the Bhutto era. Bhutto veered toward Socialist Islam.
Since then many attempts toward pan-Islamic integration are mere cannon fodder being rubber stamped by Western dictates. The OIC (Organisation for Islamic Countries) is an interesting fora though a lot of its policy-decisions are not given due weight in international relations.
A more poignant Islamic revivalism and a genuine opening of the gates of intellectual, non-violent Ijtehad is needed. More ballots. Less bullets.
#32 Posted by twintopaz on May 23, 2005 11:27:45 pm
FV..my two cents..
In UAE demonstrations are not allowed that is why u didn`t see any...! but rest assure each and every muslim in UAE felt as offended as any other muslim could have felt and had u tried to read some of the local news paper u would have diffrent perception...!
rest of your article is simply crap not worth analyzing!
In UAE demonstrations are not allowed that is why u didn`t see any...! but rest assure each and every muslim in UAE felt as offended as any other muslim could have felt and had u tried to read some of the local news paper u would have diffrent perception...!
rest of your article is simply crap not worth analyzing!
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