Farzana Versey May 23, 2005
#4 Posted by Urstruly on May 23, 2005 10:49:03 am
Re: # 1
``So an atheist is NOT offended by the desecration of Qura`n, so what is your point.
``So an atheist is NOT offended by the desecration of Qura`n, so what is your point.
#1 Posted by Urstruly on May 23, 2005 10:29:21 am
So an atheist is an offended by the desecration of Qura`n, so what is your point.
#2 Posted by dullabhatti on May 23, 2005 10:35:11 am
Bibi ki kehndi ay?
bibi the people in the first 6 paragraphs who you condem for killing themselves over desecration are the same people who can fulfill your dreams and hopes in the last 6 paragraphs.
bibi the people in the first 6 paragraphs who you condem for killing themselves over desecration are the same people who can fulfill your dreams and hopes in the last 6 paragraphs.
#5 Posted by dullabhatti on May 23, 2005 10:59:36 am
her point is simple...she hates Urstrulys but if they can reject West and join her hands in toppling the Western world on its head then they are ok. high hopes if you ask me. Urstruly is no way going to give up his 5 figure salary and join hands on hand with Mullah Omar and other with Farzana. Too many buts and ifs.
#6 Posted by kaurasach on May 23, 2005 11:01:46 am
2,
eh kehndi kujh wee nahin, gol mol gullan kardi ey - apni boli ch.
eh kehndi kujh wee nahin, gol mol gullan kardi ey - apni boli ch.
#7 Posted by dullabhatti on May 23, 2005 11:03:13 am
sorry..I meant 6 figure salary. 5 figure is not enough even if you live gosht roTi 7/52.:)
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#9 Posted by HP on May 23, 2005 11:45:36 am
“The Islamic world spotting this mirage in the desert goes for it. They call out the name not of Allah, but Osama. What has Bin Laden got to do with the Quran? They have been trapped, and they did not even realise it! The strategy has worked beautifully – get the Muslim world to talk about Islam and Osama in one breath and then declare a general war on terror.”
Farzana’s political antenna is pretty good but in this case she is off the mark. I agree that this whole thing sounds like a conspiracy but even the conspiracy theory enthusiast would have hard time buying it from Farzana. Mullahs are playing the game naively but can we say that it was all planned? By Farzana’s implication, it seems that everything is taking place on a cue! There are always going to be some elements, that would play it for both sides, but if we started to stretch Farazana’s theory (conspiracy), we may end up in the maze of unending 911 theories and I sure hope that Farzana wouldn’t like to travel that path.
There is a huge struggle between the Islamist and the West. At this point it is hard to say that Islamist got suckered into it or not but I sure can say that Osama and his sponsors were thinking of this struggle for sometime. Now we can go on a wild goose chase if we start to look for Osama’s sponsors. (Just a hint. He is in someone’s protection to hide this long with all his entourage of 17 wives, 20 kids, and scores of guards.)
Osama from the very beginning has styled himself after the prophet. Just look at his beard, his wives, and leaving all the possessions behind to live in caves, his self-imposed exile and even his own Abu Bakar in Al Zahrvi!
He was creating an image, an image to fascinate the mullah and appeal to a certain segment of the Muslim population. Osama and Islamist needed an enemy; the US and the West of the secular and godless cultures became the Satan. The US, after the cold war was also looking for an enemy and it finally found one in the Islamists. So now, both have enemies and they are going to feed each other off until the US or the Islamists find another cause.
Islamist started with a precision attack on WTC, Georgie boy called it a crusade. They bombed Afghanistan. Islamist bombed the hell out of Pakistan. They bombed Iraq, Islamist bomb the hell out of Iraqi civilians. They desecrate the Quran and now Islamists are calling for another WTC. Both sides need to feed each other off. The Quran has been desecrated before by somebody, somewhere, in the world as Farzana has pointed out but Newsweek comes out with a story and now mullahs have a chance to renew their faith. A video message from the prophet Osama or his first khalifa Al Zahrvi would follow soon. The US would renew its floundering campaign against the Terrorism and we all will see new terrorism alerts and will be shivering in our pants before we board any plane.
Let us beat up on Mullah as much as possible. Break their all sacred symbols. What they are going to do? fly some more planes? Ha! Ha! It ain’t going to happen any more. Flip their bastions of ridiculousness in Saudi Arabia and Pakistan into some heavens for casinos and Massage parlors. It’s a war and I am all for humiliating them!
#10 Posted by Inquirer on May 23, 2005 12:39:23 pm
Farzana ji:
Shukriyaa, nakkaar khaane mein tuutii hii sahii, par aapki baat bahut sahii hai. Quran Kitaab kii poojaa karne waalon to apne dharm kii poojaa karnii chaahiye. Dharm ke maine dusre dharmon kii izzat se pahchaane jaate hain.
Baat dekhne kii yeh hai ki koii aapkii baat ke bare mein nahiin jawaab detaa. Moderate musalmanon ko chaahiye ki woh kattarpan ko na sirf chodren balki usko poorii tarah se discredit karen. Tabhii muslim world mein jaagriti kii sambhaavanaa hogii.
Chaliye kam se kam ek musalman to sensible hai!
Inquirer
Shukriyaa, nakkaar khaane mein tuutii hii sahii, par aapki baat bahut sahii hai. Quran Kitaab kii poojaa karne waalon to apne dharm kii poojaa karnii chaahiye. Dharm ke maine dusre dharmon kii izzat se pahchaane jaate hain.
Baat dekhne kii yeh hai ki koii aapkii baat ke bare mein nahiin jawaab detaa. Moderate musalmanon ko chaahiye ki woh kattarpan ko na sirf chodren balki usko poorii tarah se discredit karen. Tabhii muslim world mein jaagriti kii sambhaavanaa hogii.
Chaliye kam se kam ek musalman to sensible hai!
Inquirer
#11 Posted by soysauce on May 23, 2005 12:42:40 pm
Air America is a left-of-center radio broadcast service. Citing the vigorous denials from the military and the Bush adminstration that the Koran was desecrated, an AA program host commented that the pentagon is looking into ways of torturing muslim prisoners without hurting their feelings. Sums it up pretty well I think.
#12 Posted by echoboom on May 23, 2005 12:43:07 pm
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#13 Posted by echoboom on May 23, 2005 1:09:18 pm
Announcement for May 27, demonstrations, against the westernised thhUgs in Jang newspaper
As usual the press for the illiterates in Pakistan, the english-language rags, are not reporting this with enthusiasm. Being the mouthpiece of the Westernised hooker-&-pimp culture of Asma Jehangir NGO types ( Mairaa-ThhUn fame) it brings shame to muslims the world over.
As usual the press for the illiterates in Pakistan, the english-language rags, are not reporting this with enthusiasm. Being the mouthpiece of the Westernised hooker-&-pimp culture of Asma Jehangir NGO types ( Mairaa-ThhUn fame) it brings shame to muslims the world over.
#14 Posted by ShoreSahib on May 23, 2005 1:23:42 pm
The Quran cannot be desecrated!
Are Allah`s divine words so easy to insult.
It is but paper with ink on it.
Only when one reads the Quran, and understands the message; then the Quran becomes Holy.
I ask a simple question.
What is more valuable and worth preserving.
A book printed on paper and ink or a human life imbued with a part of God`s spirit.
Masjid Dha dey, Mandir Dha dey
Dha de jo kuj Dehnda
Par kesay da dil na Dhanveen
RAB dillan vich Rehnda
Break down the Mosque, Break down the temple
Break whatever can be broken
But Dont break anyone`s heart
God resides in hearts
If these pseduo-Muslims that incited riots over the desecration of the Quran had protested only half as much against the Prison Abuses at Abu Ghraib, Guantanamo and Begram, Perhaps the Bush Regime would have thought long and hard about continuing the inhuman practices.
But No, THey protest the unproven reports of the desecration of a book, and create mischief, shed blood, burn buildings, and create general unrest in their own countries.
Wa Izza Qaila la Lahum La Tufsidoo Fi Al Ard
Qaloo, Innamma Nahanu Muslihoon
Alaaa, Inna Hum ul Mufsidoon Wa la Kinla Yash-a-Roon ( Surah Al-Baqarah)
When it is said to them, Why do you make mischief on Earth
They Say, We are those that make peace
Nay,
It is they that make mischief, yet they realize it not.
Farzana jee, I liked your article. Although the length detracted from your message a bit.
Superior writing nevertheless.
Always a pleasure.
Are Allah`s divine words so easy to insult.
It is but paper with ink on it.
Only when one reads the Quran, and understands the message; then the Quran becomes Holy.
I ask a simple question.
What is more valuable and worth preserving.
A book printed on paper and ink or a human life imbued with a part of God`s spirit.
Masjid Dha dey, Mandir Dha dey
Dha de jo kuj Dehnda
Par kesay da dil na Dhanveen
RAB dillan vich Rehnda
Break down the Mosque, Break down the temple
Break whatever can be broken
But Dont break anyone`s heart
God resides in hearts
If these pseduo-Muslims that incited riots over the desecration of the Quran had protested only half as much against the Prison Abuses at Abu Ghraib, Guantanamo and Begram, Perhaps the Bush Regime would have thought long and hard about continuing the inhuman practices.
But No, THey protest the unproven reports of the desecration of a book, and create mischief, shed blood, burn buildings, and create general unrest in their own countries.
Wa Izza Qaila la Lahum La Tufsidoo Fi Al Ard
Qaloo, Innamma Nahanu Muslihoon
Alaaa, Inna Hum ul Mufsidoon Wa la Kinla Yash-a-Roon ( Surah Al-Baqarah)
When it is said to them, Why do you make mischief on Earth
They Say, We are those that make peace
Nay,
It is they that make mischief, yet they realize it not.
Farzana jee, I liked your article. Although the length detracted from your message a bit.
Superior writing nevertheless.
Always a pleasure.
#15 Posted by hamidm2 on May 23, 2005 1:28:57 pm
........ it is for this reason that i keep two copies of the koran - the original arabic version that stays wrapped in its velvet cover on top of the bookcase, and the dog-eared english version that gets desecrated frequently and then put back between ibn waraq and irshad manji ...........
...... like hp, i am all for humiliating the suiciders and homiciders in any which way we can .......... but why are we giving them anything to read in the first place ?
...... like hp, i am all for humiliating the suiciders and homiciders in any which way we can .......... but why are we giving them anything to read in the first place ?
#16 Posted by cayenne on May 23, 2005 1:48:54 pm
Get over this article.The allegation of desecration was made up.Hopefully, not by Fareed Zakaria.`Cause he`s an indian.That`s why.If he was a Pak, i would have no hesitation in thinking so.Then again, if he was Pak, he would never have gotten the job.Aleikum Salaam.
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