The Ultimate Betrayal

incest is a reality and every time somebody brings it to notice it is just as shocking as the first time. nicely done sajal...if only these horrid sins werent true!

sounds like a white people story

sajil:

stories such as this gives the creeps...nice simple flowing style...:)


urstruly:

very canny observation!

in desi-land these things never happen!

true story: this was narrated to me by a participant...some local NGOs were doing the rounds in a village 30-40 miles from faisalabad...investigating incest cases...they found this girl...13years old...who described in details her father`s abuses...when the lady doctors asked her why she submitted to the abuses...did not report it to others her reply was `he is my father, our religion tells us to obey parents`

i trust you will take time to digest this and not come back with lame duck one liners or a cut n paste glorifying islamic renaissance or conversion or spread of islam in foreign lands or jails...also as a consideration will you inform echo/chusni and others in your tag team to stick to the subject of incest on this board? or will i be out of luck?

rgds

t

Re: # 3 t

you got me, you cantonment kutta

#4:

lame

Thank you Sajal!
You have highlighted the most taboo subjects in South Asian societies. I believe that only when South Asians speak out and about incest, can there be dialogue and awareness for a serious problem that plagues our society.

Your story reminded me of the narrative found in one of Syed Akbar Ahmed`s book, ``Rediscovering Islam`` where he describes the childhood incest experienced an Egyptian Muslim woman by her grandfather.

Your story has very good flow. The writing style is simple, yet articulate. Excellent choice of subject. Loved it!!
Please write more!

Re: # 5

``lame``

Ok I admit/confess that about 90% of Muslim girls have slept with their fathers. Happy?

#7 why are you so defensive?

This is what happens in closed (stagnated) societies. Everything happens but behind the ``purdah``. In the west, it is out in open - that is the ONLY difference.

Sajal:

This topic is simultaneously heart wrenching and heinous. I never know whether to scream in anger or weep in anguish.

Thanks for bringing this topic to the forefront! :)

Depressing!

Adders eat their babies.
Man has got an extra appetence.

Urstruly,

Where`s the easy breezy veneer? That was some unexpected flash of fang...telling....

tbhai,

well done.

sajal,

``his hands drifted all over her body making her cringe with a revulsion she did not know how to even name.``

disturbing and well phrased.

Re: # 12 Saminashah

I really don`t understand the issue here. When I look at the issue of incest through the prism of your moral values I absolutely find no reason to feel that incest of a father with his daughter, regardless of her age, is offensive or inapproptriate in any shape or form. Please explain to me why it is a bad thing.

I can write a whole thesis on this issue expalining why based on my values I find incest morally and legally reprehensible but can you write one paragraph explaining why you feel ``disturbed`` judging it by your system of values?

urstruly:

be a man for a change!

(man--does not mean a muslim--man here refers simply to a man a father...a son...a granpa)

and remeber the issue at hand is incest... i...n....c...e...s...t...

sajal - what i really like about your writing is the sincerety. Well done!

urstruly - What has Samina ever said or done to make you believe that she approves of incest, especially child sexual abuse as in this story between a father and his pre-pubescent daughter/s?

Urstruly, issue is not one of religion but the ethos of the people. The basic moral and/or ethical values are being questioned. It is not a question of conservative or liberal values, or the nature of the looking glass here. The issue goes to the very basics of what we, as human beings, want society to look like. We build the rest on top of this.

The reason given by the girl in Temporal`s story, could be the same reason this girl didnt say anything, but the trauma is there, that confusion ``Daddy is in Maryam`s room, and from now on she will be Daddy’s Special Girl.`` is palpable - it should be tearing your heart out, not jumping to the defence of the indefencible.

The one thing which is missing from this story, is a backgrounder of the sort Temporal gave (either as an epilogue or a prologue) with facts and figures. This would remove anecdotal stories and facts impinging on the horror of it all - and would have stopped many from questioning the veracity, authenticity of stories like this.


I have been called ``wil of Wisp`` by many, but surely this is something from which even a willow will recoil and draw a line - defence of the indefencible.