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Fourth Letter to Uncle Sam

Khalid Hasan May 27, 2005

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#1 Posted by drlokraj on May 27, 2005 2:16:05 am
Thanks again,Mr.Hasan.
It will be interesting to know what was the reaction of people from various backgrounds,when these letters were first published as it seems Manto had increased the circle of his critics and enemies.
Publishing these letters now in print media may not be bad idea because these have not lost meaning or relevance in the present context.
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#2 Posted by rozaiba on May 27, 2005 4:25:06 am
As usual, this cracks you up!
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#3 Posted by harish_hyd on May 27, 2005 4:41:37 am
What a man Manto was!!!!
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#4 Posted by dost_mittar on May 27, 2005 10:44:16 am
Enjoyed this. Gives a good idea how the societal mores have changed in Pakistan.
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#5 Posted by ana on May 27, 2005 2:48:34 pm
i could not help but note that this letter was written almost exactly a decade before i was born. i enjoyed reading this letter, and reading about aiding against the threat of communism, among other things i had to go back and check again to see when this letter was written. it still very much speaks to more contemporary times.

his comments on APWA were funny. living in lahore twenty years after this letter was written, one could still see bare midriffs, and sleeveless blouses for saris in particular, and yes for women over the age of forty. i lived in lahore long enough to see fashion changing within the same decade, and not just fashions changing, but people charging at you for dressing ``skimpily`` or not wearing a dupatta when that wasn`t so much the case in public, and in broad daylight before.
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#6 Posted by echoboom on May 27, 2005 5:19:36 pm
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#7 Posted by ana on May 27, 2005 5:44:13 pm
actually, some of the ``illiterates`` from pakistan can read urdu. and if you are so concerned about the illiterates, and their salvation, perhaps you can teach them how to read. on second thought, it would be nice if they read with an open mind.

an english-medium education does not always mean disassociation from our language. it is time you stopped being a slave to your mullah masters, and tried to understand that.
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#8 Posted by cayenne on May 27, 2005 6:05:21 pm
Thank you Mr.Hasan , again.Manto was wacked out.I read between the lines his anguish at ending up in Pakistan.Enjoyable reading again.
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#9 Posted by echoboom on May 27, 2005 6:31:47 pm
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#10 Posted by hamzaad on May 27, 2005 8:36:06 pm
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#11 Posted by ana on May 27, 2005 9:01:32 pm
hamzaad,

ana knows what kaka is up to, and ana will respond but just this once. . promises promises. furthermore, ana really doesn`t really appreciate the word ``karanTay`` at all. . . nor does ana need to resuscitate urdu from the clutches of mullahs. . . perhaps kaka and friends (?) who discuss kaun musalmaan hai aur kaun nahiN can resuscitate (such a big farangi word from kaka) arabic from their clutches instead?!

as for ana`s kind, she most respectfully submits that urdu is her language, it is not for her what the goras would refer to as some ``exotic`` art, and frankly this nonsense about excluding ``karanTas`` in pakistan from things they have ``owned`` for generations like language and nationality is getting very very very old. ana hopes that kaka will own up to his intelligence and move forward and beyond. and she hopes that kaka and his apne will have a splendid weekend. as for imitating kaka`s style, is imitation not the highest form of flattery?!? :)
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#12 Posted by stuka on May 27, 2005 9:06:08 pm
Haan Bhai, to me this letter does not make any sense at all. What is so great about it?
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#13 Posted by hamzaad on May 27, 2005 9:46:20 pm
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#14 Posted by avenger123 on May 27, 2005 11:20:03 pm
hey mister , uncle sam too busy having fun with your mother to bother about your letters. Anyways , keep writing !!!
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#15 Posted by Nadia_Zehra on May 28, 2005 1:32:37 am
Glad to know that Mr. Manto also disn`t like APWA whole lot. Well after visiting their grandeur show of Meena bazaar in capital of Pakistan in the name of Handicrafts selling of lower middle class group , i could only come across world famous burger kids of islamabd buzzing around carbs outlets and bizarre aunties and half faced covered deep black glasses bureucrats and parking lot filled with vehicles of ``rishwat khaur`` ``sarkari afsaraan`` with ``peroxide blondes`` filling the spaces left.

And I cursed the idea of covering the whole distance of half miles of sports complex to reach a meena bazar which is a sort of fun-fair for general public but there idealogy revolved that only vips should come in CARS IN SPORTS COMPLEX OF ISLAMABAD killing the healthy atmosphere and aspect of the place and festivity associated with it making it embarassed for a pedestrain spectator and visitor. I don`t know when Pakistanis will come out of elite-progression metaphorism.

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#16 Posted by Nadia_Zehra on May 28, 2005 1:39:33 am
Glad to know that Mr. Manto also didn`t like APWA whole lot. Well after visiting their grandeur show of Meena bazaar in capital of Pakistan in the name of Handicrafts selling of lower middle class group , i could only come across world famous burger kids of islamabd buzzing around carbs outlets and bizarre aunties and half faced covered deep black glasses bureucrats and parking lot filled with vehicles of ``rishwat khaur`` ``sarkari afsaraan`` with ``peroxide blondes`` filling the spaces left.

And I cursed the idea of covering the whole distance of half miles of sports complex to reach a meena bazar which is a sort of fun-fair for general public but there idealogy revolved that only vips should come in CARS IN SPORTS COMPLEX OF ISLAMABAD killing the healthy atmosphere and aspect of the place and festivity associated with it making it embarassed for a pedestrain spectator and visitor. I don`t know when Pakistanis will come out of elite-progression metamorphism.
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#17 Posted by cipram on May 28, 2005 6:08:48 am
good for killing time.
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#18 Posted by dost_mittar on May 28, 2005 6:32:56 am
ana#5

I remember that back in the 1950s, there used to be a half-lunatic newspaper vendor, who made it his job to stand at a chowk in Karol Bagh and yell at any girl returning from school who did not cover her head with her duppatta. I also remember my mother doing a ``ghund`` to hide her face whenever my grandfather, who lived in the same house, was nearby. Fast forward to 1970s. The ghund disappeared and women covered their head only in gurudwara or other places of worship or during certain ceremonies, e.g., during karva chauth.

I think that the situation in Pakistan was not very different during 1950s with a local counterpart of the half-lunatic newspaper vendor yelling at girls with uncovered head shouting at Bhatti Gate or Mohammadpura. Fast forward to 1970s. While the half-lunatic disappeared from the scene in Delhi, in Pakistan he was replaced by the respected Mullah who made duppatta and chador di-rigour in Pakistan.

Yes,India and Pakistan may have been the same nation half-centuries ago but they have certainly followed divergent paths.
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#19 Posted by khamkhwa. on May 28, 2005 11:43:53 am
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kaka...
you are taking chacha boomboom`s class without shame or haya... so far it was the lafangis on the left and right..but chacha boomboom has never been either left or the right unless you have gone blind due to overuse of your palms...as you well know, he has always been obverse...so stop this kameengi immediately and get back to the lafangis...
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#20 Posted by echoboom on May 28, 2005 6:05:40 pm
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#21 Posted by echoboom on May 29, 2005 10:25:37 am
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#22 Posted by echoboom on May 30, 2005 5:54:23 am
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#23 Posted by Raw_Dust on May 30, 2005 11:47:08 am
echoboom :
that Ismat Chughtai piece was a gem.

many thanks.
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#24 Posted by subroto on May 30, 2005 8:04:15 pm
#9 Echo : That was very funny. Who is/was Ibne-Insha?

Khalid Hasan thanks for translating.
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#25 Posted by echoboom on May 30, 2005 9:11:23 pm
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#26 Posted by MantoLives on May 31, 2005 1:03:45 am
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Harish My dear dear friend from Call center ...

I see that you`ve once again beaten the retreat from the following board...

http://www.chowk.com/show_article.cgi?aid=00005040&channel=chaathouse#interact


I do acknowledge that you sneaked in like the coward that you are to put up one more post but sicne then I`ve been waiting and waiting.... but seems like your mythology has been dented so much that you are unable to answer my questions as usual.

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#27 Posted by MantoLives on May 31, 2005 1:30:28 am
Saving Manto`s house....:)


I`ve been quite busy over the past few weeks in several different commitments and other things ... and one of them is as follows... Ferozk and I have managed to bring the Indian petroleum minister to his birthplace in Lahore....

It all started one day when Feroz and I were brainstorming for ideas to preserve and save Lakshmi Mansions from commercialisation... and it hit us... WHY not invite Mani Shankar Aiyar, when he comes to visit Pakistan for the oil pipeline discussions...

Needless to say the result are quite gratifying....



http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_18-5-2005_pg7_20


Wednesday, May 18, 2005

Lakshmi Mansion heritage being threatened by commercialisation

By Yasser L Hamdani

LAHORE: What do these people have in common: Meraj Khalid, former Pakistani prime minister, Saadat Hassan Manto, world renowned short story writer, Zafrullah Chaudhry, the first foreign minister of Pakistan, and Mani Shankar Aiyar, the Indian petroleum minister? The answer is Lakshmi Mansion, a pre-partition residential establishment off The Mall and Hall Road, which now faces the threat of extinction because of extensive commercialisation.

Hall Road’s business establishments are slowly beginning to creep into the once peaceful enclave. Houses, some of them eight decades old, are being replaced by commercial plazas, creating a myriad of parking problems and other civic issues for the residents of the leafy Lakshmi Mansion environs, an additional reason why some of them are leaving. Though the area is registered as residential, Hall Road vendors have acquired property and there are visible signs of destruction. Shops selling music, movies and cellular phones have changed the residential locality forever. Now a new commercial plaza is being built within the enclave.

The residents of the area have gone to court in the past, most recently in 1996. A writ petition was filed that stopped construction temporarily. Later the area was reaffirmed as residential, but that would matter little given that many in the area are willing to sell. Residents have written to the chief minister to intervene personally.

“There is a Hall Road mafia that doesn’t stop at anything and will slowly engulf our neighbourhood,” said an elderly resident, residing there since independence.

Muhammad Usman, a Hall Road businessman and a member of one of the many traders’ associations on that road, told Daily Times that it was only a matter of time before all of Lakshmi Mansion fell into their hands since people wanted to sell and they wanted to buy. While regretting that it would mean the loss of a great historical heritage, Mr Usman said that anything was possible in a country like Pakistan. “As long as Meraj Khalid was alive, such acquisition was impossible but now things have changed,” he added.

The history of the residential enclave is older than independence. It was here that Mani Shankar Aiyar, the current Indian petroleum minister, was born in 1941. His family eventually moved to India at independence, but people in the neighbourhood still remember him.

The Lakshmi Mansion Residents Association has formally invited Mr Aiyar to come. “If the Indian government can accord a special status to the Neharwali Haveli area because President Musharraf was born there, why can’t the Pakistani government do the same and declare Lakshmi Mansion enclave heritage property?” asks one resident. It would be a great confidence-building measure, he adds.

Saadat Hassan Manto, arguably Pakistan’s greatest short story writer, moved to this area in January 1948. It was here that he wrote some of his finest short stories and sketches including Toba Tek Singh, Thanda Ghost, Khol Do and Mera Sahib. Today his daughter resides in the house which has become a memorial of sorts to the man hailed as Pakistan’s most gifted writer. The plaque that indicates that Manto once resided in the building has been vandalised with graffiti. “People often come looking to find material about Manto and we try and help the best we can,” Nighat Patel, Manto’s daughter, told Daily Times.

Meraj Khalid also lived here for a large part of his life. Lakshmi Mansion thus served on several occasions as the residence of the chief minister, National Assembly speaker and finally the prime minister of the country.

A small library and museum dedicated to the life and work of Mr Khalid today operates without government patronage. Since the former prime minister’s demise two years ago, the family has moved and the house now serves as the office building of Daily Jinnah, an Urdu newspaper.

There is also a beautiful park in the centre of this historical locality. Trees in this park are said to be over a 100 years old. If the area gets commercialised, it is feared that this lush green park might end up a concrete car park one day.




http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=main_29-5-2005_pg7
Sunday, May 29, 2005

Mani Shankar to visit birthplace in Lahore

By Yasser Hamdani

LAHORE: Mani Shankar Aiyar, the Indian petroleum minister, will visit his place of birth in Lahore during his upcoming visit to Pakistan to discuss the Iran-Pakistan-India pipeline, Daily Times has learnt.

Aiyar accepted an invitation from the Lakshmi Mansions Residents’ Association to visit the historic Lakshmi Mansions off of The Mall and Hall Road. Responding to the invitation letter from the general secretary of the association, Aiyar said, “I am honoured to accept your kind invitation to meet with members of Lakshmi Mansion Residents’ Association when I visit Lahore on Saturday, June 4.”

Aiyar was born at Laksmi Mansions in 1941. His family moved to India in 1947. Lakshmi Mansions residents feel Mani’s visit will help boost their efforts to preserve the historic neighbourhood.
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#28 Posted by Ameena on June 14, 2005 2:13:26 am
Funny. I`ve just gotten into reading manto (English translation) and after reading these I think I`ll stick with him. I read a few letters quite like these on a Manto website as well. Anyho.
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#29 Posted by sachinsharma on August 15, 2005 1:15:22 am
The sunday times, the Times of India`s sunday edition did a wonderful piece on Manto in yesterday`s paper. After having read these letters again and again it was great to see a photograph of the man himself, seated next to his three young daughters.

His connection with the city of Mumbai is remarkable itself. In his own words, he started dying the moment he left Bombay.

Just another victim of the brutal partition of this sub-continent.



cheers.

Hope springs eternal.
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