The Aftergod

Re: # 40

Dear RD,

He is the Only Entity worthy of Praises. He doesn`t need to score points with anyone, nor does He give up on anyone unless he/she insists on it. Even then, He leaves the door open if and when he/she wishes to revert.

He doesn`t wish for His Creation to become fuel for the `fire`; He has plenty of other resources for that. He has left it up to us .... the ultimate freedom of choice. We decide our fate with our intentions and subsequent efforts for action.

May He fill your life with ghee-shakkar and all that you desire if He counts me among Momineen. Don`t give up on yourself so quick though. Only He decides who belongs where.

You appear way too smart to be fooled by incomplete thoughts and impressions of life. Please don`t be so bitter about His Authority and Rules. You and I obey these day-in and day-out in one way or another anyway. It`s only a matter of looking at life with sincerity in order to recognize our compliance to Him even in our defiance :-)~~

ciao,
ntsyed :-)~~

But why is it assumed that secularism means godlessness? It a habit of our mollaas that they try to confuse people between atheism and secularism.

Re: # 42

It`s a prominent trait of the ill-informed and confused that they try to blame the religiously inclined, mollaas, padris, et al for their own ignorance and woes resulting from it.

Dictionary.com:

2 entries found for secularism.

1. sec·u·lar·ism (n).

1. Religious skepticism or indifference.
2. The view that religious considerations should be excluded from civil affairs or public education.

secu·lar·ist (n).
secu·lar·istic (adj).

2. secularism

(n) : a doctrine that rejects religion and religious considerations

Would the dear Mr. patwari kindly enlighten us all with the definitions of the word as per Messrs Oxford and Webster?

It would be even better if he could then tell us who`s propagating disinformation about who?

ciao,
ntsyed :-)~~

Sir if it matter of deffinations from dictionary I respond by defination of secularism taken from christian dictionary.......

``Secularism is that which seeks the development of the physical, moral, and intellectual nature of man to the highest possible point, as the immediate duty of life — which inculcates the practical sufficiency of natural morality apart from Atheism, Theism or the Bible``

So my point onl;y was that secularism is different from atheism thats all.

According to same dictionary secularism is....
The improvement of this life by material means.
That science is the available Providence of man.
That it is good to do good. ``Whether there be other good or not, the good of the present life is good, and it is good to seek that good`` (English Secularism, 35).

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/13676a.htm

Re: # 44 by patwari

So what you`re saying is that secularism doesn`t mean one rejects the existence of God; one simply rejects Him.

In all the definitions you`ve provided, God has been put aside and omitted from the equation; in effect rejected.

So then, what else is Atheism if not rejection of God?

And how much of a difference remains there between secularism and atheism?

Dear sir, I understand what you`re trying to say. But, dil k behlanay ko Ghalib ye khayal achcha hai.

We can go round and round in endless semantics and hair-splitting, at the end of the day secularism and atheism are directly related to each other - one transpires the other.

ciao,
ntsyed :-)~~

ntsyed:
i was just thinking about the cartoonish vibe of the whole thing. thats all. Personally, i dont deny or deify or defy - i just grew out of it just like i grew out of say, Tom & Jerry.

have a good wednesday.
cheers.

as far as i can tell
this is simply brilliant.
i would love to see that movie.
the day i outgrow stuff like that
will be the day i die forever.

Roger Schrödinger,
NaturalCat

My mind just asks myself this question:

Given you are a NaturalCat,
locked in a box
with 2 rodents named Azrael and Lucifer
and a bottle of nerve gas,
would you:
a. kill Azrael and share the hide with Lucifer
b. kill Lucifer and share the hide with Azrael
c. break the bottle and leave the rest to Mother Nature?

Curious as hell:
Puzzie Schrödinger, Rogers sister

My mind just asks myself this question:

Given you are a NaturalCat,
locked in a box
with 2 rodents named Azrael and Lucifer
and a bottle of nerve gas,
would you:
a. kill Azrael and share the hide with Lucifer
b. kill Lucifer and share the hide with Azrael
c. break the bottle and leave the rest to Mother Nature?

Curious as hell:
Puzzie Schrödinger, Rogers sister