The Aftergod

Okay, seriously,
Naqshbandi Sahib:
Your point taken and respected. And I hope you did mine.

ana,
God turned Jesus into mud because he loved him. Otherwise, he could have turned him into hamzaad, y’know.

Sifar,
For GOD`S sake, man. Just wanted to make a play out of a simple thought that has been running in my mind. It`s not even an opinion. Just a lil` query, that`s all: What would the world be like without religion? And maybe in the play God is being sarcastic when he says, ``A godless earth. A peaceful earth.?`` Sarcastic with ``godless men`` like me?

Raw_Dust
Do not read it at all. I fear you`ll stop posting.;)

Shockthemonk,
Yes, it’s personal. But not a war. A battle, perhaps. I, the man, against religious beliefs created by man. Blasphemy?

Lol@Urstruly. I’ll definitely keep that in mind. But isn’t that always the case?

Gracias Amena.

SairaK,
You’re too deep for me, love.

Rgds,
NfP

So what is this about?Finding your own truth in the atrophied words of the faith as the Prophets taught it?...Or breaking down the walls of the Organisation of Fear that Islam has become?...
Somehow, the battlefield should have been Earth and not Heaven...Somehow it should have been the Devil taking over Earth, only to realise man had gone back up...

As a satire it makes little sense, as there is a disconnect between any identifiable trait or belief of religious people...more like the typical adolecent rant against religion head bangers develop after they discover Ozzy.

The impact of the satire is lessoned by the fact that the greatest evils done in the past century and a bit were not in the name of God, but in the name of nationalism and Leftist ideologies (oops...can we fault lefties?).

Re: # 36 haha @ `baghlol`...liked it! :-)
regards

Satire? Atheism?

Nahhhhhh!

#33 by baaghiraja on June 13, 2005 0:50am PT:

``Just wanted to make a play out of a simple thought that has been running in my mind. It`s not even an opinion.``

I think he`s gone nuts trying to figure out who he is, why he is, where he`s from, and where he`s heading after rejecting God`s Existance. Unfortunately, in the process lost the entire concept of respect for others. Yet if some wrote a piece with his family members in roles and places as he could never imagine, he`d probably go in a never-ending back-flipping mode. It`s a typical atheist/secular syndrome in advanced stages. A product of being way too much into Hollywood sci-fi and such Disney and other modern/contemporary animations of aliens, monsters, super-heroes/heroines junk. Mix it with the attention deprivation and the desire for a godless life without responsibilities, and the confusion becomes a wet-dream, spurting uncontrollably in pieces like The Aftergod.

I don`t know how many people missed the following from his confusion:

``God: Look down below. Down from that ugly crack from where Mhedi fell. Look hard. Earth like when I first made it. I have taken time back right to the start. There is Adam and here comes Eve. But they shall never know of me. Or of you. And neither will those who shall follow them. And I shall not ask you to kneel in front of Adam. And you shall not rebel. There will be no game.``

...the bugger wants God - as in, ``The Supreme Being`` - to make this earth a godless earth

LOL....what gives?

Kinda ironic don`t you think.... an atheist looking to God for making it a godless earth :-)~~

What a Pitiful baghlol !

Ciao :-)~~

Re: # 38

Dear baaghiraja,

`[S]ecular rant` or reality, it`s all relative and subject to paradigms and perspectives. The most amicable compromise is an agreement on disagreement. I hope you concur :-)~~

Nevertheless, your appreciation is appreciated, Jazak-Allah! Indeed He does move in mysterious ways.

``The irony of God planing to rid the world of his own influence.``

Dil k behlanay ko Ghalib ye khayal achcha hai :-)~~

Meray bhai, you`re assuming too much about an Entity Whom no normal mortal has seen. Only a few prophets [PBUH] have had a glimpse of Him; I`m only certain about two of them.

Think about it, why did He create all that we see and hear about, and the things He has promised us for our obedience and deviance?

More specifically, why did He create us, angels, jinn, Iblees, earth, heaven, and hell?

And why would He relinquish His dominion? Could I tell my children to pretend and live like fatherless children while I exist and provide for them? Would that really allow them to live in utopian peace and harmony?

I think these are way too many questions for now. May be you want to find the answers to these or may be not, but alhumdolillah you and I have established that we believe in His Existence as the Supreme Being.

Now, while we obey our employer, judicial authority, and even a gun toting homicidal nut-case as long as he/she holds that power (the gun) over us; knowing Allah holds All Powers within and beyond our imagination, what keeps us from obeying Him?

We`ll discuss accountibility and consequences later, that is if you wish for it, insha-Allah.

Ciao

ntsyed :-)~~

Congratulations, ntsyed. In your wonderfully crafted anti-secular rant, you are the one guy who ACTUALLY found the whole point of the play. Irony. The irony of God planing to rid the world of his own influence. Wow. God does move in mysterious ways.


Rgds,
NfP

Re: # 40

Dear RD,

He is the Only Entity worthy of Praises. He doesn`t need to score points with anyone, nor does He give up on anyone unless he/she insists on it. Even then, He leaves the door open if and when he/she wishes to revert.

He doesn`t wish for His Creation to become fuel for the `fire`; He has plenty of other resources for that. He has left it up to us .... the ultimate freedom of choice. We decide our fate with our intentions and subsequent efforts for action.

May He fill your life with ghee-shakkar and all that you desire if He counts me among Momineen. Don`t give up on yourself so quick though. Only He decides who belongs where.

You appear way too smart to be fooled by incomplete thoughts and impressions of life. Please don`t be so bitter about His Authority and Rules. You and I obey these day-in and day-out in one way or another anyway. It`s only a matter of looking at life with sincerity in order to recognize our compliance to Him even in our defiance :-)~~

ciao,
ntsyed :-)~~

ntsyed sahib:

that was a great post! isnt that soo right? we murtids, kafirs actually murtids specially. we are like flooring the pedal when surely the ride aint safe and there is only pure fire, misery and torment waiting for us on the other side. we are a lost cause indeed. we are doomed, prejudged by the Dog almighty to be damned eternally so He could score some points with Momineen like your praiseworthy self.

This whole idea for the Truth is prolly wonderful to believe maybe a touch melodramatic. So i say, more power to your pen. On the other hand lost souls, the baghlols of every Time and age are fated to play their part over and over. They are the fuel to stoke the furnace that Dog almighty cant do without.

peace.

Re: # 42

It`s a prominent trait of the ill-informed and confused that they try to blame the religiously inclined, mollaas, padris, et al for their own ignorance and woes resulting from it.

Dictionary.com:

2 entries found for secularism.

1. sec·u·lar·ism (n).

1. Religious skepticism or indifference.
2. The view that religious considerations should be excluded from civil affairs or public education.

secu·lar·ist (n).
secu·lar·istic (adj).

2. secularism

(n) : a doctrine that rejects religion and religious considerations

Would the dear Mr. patwari kindly enlighten us all with the definitions of the word as per Messrs Oxford and Webster?

It would be even better if he could then tell us who`s propagating disinformation about who?

ciao,
ntsyed :-)~~

But why is it assumed that secularism means godlessness? It a habit of our mollaas that they try to confuse people between atheism and secularism.

Re: # 44 by patwari

So what you`re saying is that secularism doesn`t mean one rejects the existence of God; one simply rejects Him.

In all the definitions you`ve provided, God has been put aside and omitted from the equation; in effect rejected.

So then, what else is Atheism if not rejection of God?

And how much of a difference remains there between secularism and atheism?

Dear sir, I understand what you`re trying to say. But, dil k behlanay ko Ghalib ye khayal achcha hai.

We can go round and round in endless semantics and hair-splitting, at the end of the day secularism and atheism are directly related to each other - one transpires the other.

ciao,
ntsyed :-)~~

Sir if it matter of deffinations from dictionary I respond by defination of secularism taken from christian dictionary.......

``Secularism is that which seeks the development of the physical, moral, and intellectual nature of man to the highest possible point, as the immediate duty of life — which inculcates the practical sufficiency of natural morality apart from Atheism, Theism or the Bible``

So my point onl;y was that secularism is different from atheism thats all.

According to same dictionary secularism is....
The improvement of this life by material means.
That science is the available Providence of man.
That it is good to do good. ``Whether there be other good or not, the good of the present life is good, and it is good to seek that good`` (English Secularism, 35).

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/13676a.htm

ntsyed:
i was just thinking about the cartoonish vibe of the whole thing. thats all. Personally, i dont deny or deify or defy - i just grew out of it just like i grew out of say, Tom & Jerry.

have a good wednesday.
cheers.

as far as i can tell
this is simply brilliant.
i would love to see that movie.
the day i outgrow stuff like that
will be the day i die forever.

Roger Schrödinger,
NaturalCat

My mind just asks myself this question:

Given you are a NaturalCat,
locked in a box
with 2 rodents named Azrael and Lucifer
and a bottle of nerve gas,
would you:
a. kill Azrael and share the hide with Lucifer
b. kill Lucifer and share the hide with Azrael
c. break the bottle and leave the rest to Mother Nature?

Curious as hell:
Puzzie Schrödinger, Rogers sister