Paleoanthropology and Evolution of Humankind
Mohammad Gill July 11, 2005
#23 Posted by cayenne on July 13, 2005 11:36:41 am
While cayenne probably feels good by writing, “A chimpanzee could have written this (essay) better!” I simply say to him, “Dear Sir, be my guest.” The chowk readers will appreciate your work.
Uninformed criticism is cheap like dirt. If he chooses to continue to sloth in it, it is his own choice. What can I say?
Mohammad Gill
Help!!.This sister needs some attention or she`s gonna pout and insist on canceling the slumber party on friday. um.um.um.Kaurey, i think you`re well suited to the task.Your interact #22 is a masterpiece.It took you 20 years to understand that a chimpanzee is our common ancestor???.......
Uninformed criticism is cheap like dirt. If he chooses to continue to sloth in it, it is his own choice. What can I say?
Mohammad Gill
Help!!.This sister needs some attention or she`s gonna pout and insist on canceling the slumber party on friday. um.um.um.Kaurey, i think you`re well suited to the task.Your interact #22 is a masterpiece.It took you 20 years to understand that a chimpanzee is our common ancestor???.......
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#22 Posted by kaurasach on July 13, 2005 11:03:52 am
Mr Gill,
I exercise and challenge my logical and analytical thinking every second of the day to a point that I think I`ve a psychological disorder. It is an old habit thats now turning out to be a sort of a curse. I analyze even the signal order on the road, - to using natural selection to get best marigolds. Truthfully, I am tired of this habit.
Most geniuses suffer from such. clarification - I do not claim to be a genius - just immitating their habits.
They did not accept and swallow old theories and views that preceeded them. And that set them apart. and they discovered new scietific theories and equations. Independent thinking and questioning of established theories was taught by Greco Roman philosophers that rubbed off on me studying philosophy subjects in college.
I am not asking you to give a `spin` or give your `personal or political views` on the subject. May be we differ in the sense that you use other authors` knowledge and accept the theories. and I`ve been trained to exercise my logic and analytical skills to improve or accept the theory after mulling it over.
Anthropology/natural selection is not a hard science like math.....and is subject to improvement. Theories are not facts. As a person who likes the scientific stuff, I thought maybe you went beyond accepting without questioning or curiosity. science makes one question and curious beyond the accepted theories.
Now that I know what your target audience is for your works. I will refrain from remarks to the effect.
You do come across as a `serious` and `formal` person....and I was aware that you take your science articles seriously.
rgrds,
kaura
I exercise and challenge my logical and analytical thinking every second of the day to a point that I think I`ve a psychological disorder. It is an old habit thats now turning out to be a sort of a curse. I analyze even the signal order on the road, - to using natural selection to get best marigolds. Truthfully, I am tired of this habit.
Most geniuses suffer from such. clarification - I do not claim to be a genius - just immitating their habits.
They did not accept and swallow old theories and views that preceeded them. And that set them apart. and they discovered new scietific theories and equations. Independent thinking and questioning of established theories was taught by Greco Roman philosophers that rubbed off on me studying philosophy subjects in college.
I am not asking you to give a `spin` or give your `personal or political views` on the subject. May be we differ in the sense that you use other authors` knowledge and accept the theories. and I`ve been trained to exercise my logic and analytical skills to improve or accept the theory after mulling it over.
Anthropology/natural selection is not a hard science like math.....and is subject to improvement. Theories are not facts. As a person who likes the scientific stuff, I thought maybe you went beyond accepting without questioning or curiosity. science makes one question and curious beyond the accepted theories.
Now that I know what your target audience is for your works. I will refrain from remarks to the effect.
You do come across as a `serious` and `formal` person....and I was aware that you take your science articles seriously.
rgrds,
kaura
#21 Posted by freethinker on July 13, 2005 10:24:32 am
Kaura:
I mostly do not insert the ‘caveat’ in my articles that they are for non-professional readers only because it is generally understood that any piece of writing is elementary at some level. But I gave it in this article anyhow.
The other thing that you suggest for me to give my own ‘spin’ (if you will) would not be meaningful because in scientific matters, subjective judgement is worthless. If I, for instance, assert that Darwin’s Natural Selection is a defective theory, I have to have empirical evidence (or strong logical argument) to justify my criticism. I quote other people’s work in support of and against an argument because usually they have such information. I do not write my articles in a different way or style than most of the other popular science writers. Science is different from politics and religion, for instance. I don’t believe I should belabor this point too much. I do express my personal views and opinions on political and religious issues whenever there is any occasion. Refutation for the sake of refutation is not my viewpoint.
Wishing you well,
Mohammad Gill
P.S: I write my articles (on science topics) quite seriously
I mostly do not insert the ‘caveat’ in my articles that they are for non-professional readers only because it is generally understood that any piece of writing is elementary at some level. But I gave it in this article anyhow.
The other thing that you suggest for me to give my own ‘spin’ (if you will) would not be meaningful because in scientific matters, subjective judgement is worthless. If I, for instance, assert that Darwin’s Natural Selection is a defective theory, I have to have empirical evidence (or strong logical argument) to justify my criticism. I quote other people’s work in support of and against an argument because usually they have such information. I do not write my articles in a different way or style than most of the other popular science writers. Science is different from politics and religion, for instance. I don’t believe I should belabor this point too much. I do express my personal views and opinions on political and religious issues whenever there is any occasion. Refutation for the sake of refutation is not my viewpoint.
Wishing you well,
Mohammad Gill
P.S: I write my articles (on science topics) quite seriously
#20 Posted by shobig_sifar on July 13, 2005 9:49:52 am
Re: # 8 It`s far easier to read an article on Chowk than to join `classes in anthropology`. No? alas, you never cease to not make any sense!
#19 Posted by kaurasach on July 13, 2005 9:40:02 am
Mr. Gill,
Firstly, there is no ridicule (may be a little jest) in critiquing your works.
I liked your `run of the mill` works because they were ORIGINAL and YOUR UNIQUE works. I admire that quality over the rest of the criteria.
I see that your laborious works are geared towards people who are not aware of these theories. I`ve read these theories, debated and discussed, critiqued them for 2 decades now. That is probably the reason that I am not impressed, and am bored by the elementary content......
Wouldn`t it be better if you give even this elementary knowledge your own critique/opinion.
Lastly,
Cayenne is the village jester (idiot is a too strong word). He has carved his niche on CHOWK - a harmless jester who completes the scene in his own insignificant way.
Firstly, there is no ridicule (may be a little jest) in critiquing your works.
I liked your `run of the mill` works because they were ORIGINAL and YOUR UNIQUE works. I admire that quality over the rest of the criteria.
I see that your laborious works are geared towards people who are not aware of these theories. I`ve read these theories, debated and discussed, critiqued them for 2 decades now. That is probably the reason that I am not impressed, and am bored by the elementary content......
Wouldn`t it be better if you give even this elementary knowledge your own critique/opinion.
Lastly,
Cayenne is the village jester (idiot is a too strong word). He has carved his niche on CHOWK - a harmless jester who completes the scene in his own insignificant way.
#18 Posted by freethinker on July 13, 2005 8:41:55 am
Thank you readers and Interactors for your interest in the article.
Let me explain why I write what I write. The extent of human knowledge (at the same time, ignorance) is vast. It is nearly impossible for a person to understand and appreciate all the various fields of human knowledge. I do not and I do not pretend that I do.
Whenever I come across a god book, a good and thought-provoking article, essay or paper, I am motivated to share it with others. I do not believe that all the readers will be on the same page with me. For every cayenne and kaura, there is a BeeJay, kamath, and a nandan also.
In the article under discussion, I had taken care to mention, “It was a pleasant and educational experience on the whole which I want to share with the readers. And let me state also that this article is for the non-specialist readers.” May be cayenne and kaura did not read these lines and ran away with their criticism. If they thought that the article was too elementary for them, they should have moved on to something else, which was worthwhile for them. Obviously they are the kind of the readers whom I had forewarned. The article however did interest some other readers, which, I consider, is my reward for writing it.
The kind of articles that interests kaura are run of the mill for me. I am glad that he appreciated a couple of my “ run of the mill” articles. I wrote one of them in seven/ eight hours. I do write such articles for the sake of variety and for fun. I spend a minimum of ten days in writing an article on the ‘science’ topic. I build upon my existing knowledge, and use new knowledge that I acquire from reading new books, papers and articles (sometimes I buy a couple of books that I do not find in libraries, just for completing an article). It is hard work. I took much longer time to write some articles; for instance, a few years for writing “What is Islamization?” There is a topic on which I want to write but I am still feeling out of depth. Writing is an educational experience for me.
While cayenne probably feels good by writing, “A chimpanzee could have written this (essay) better!” I simply say to him, “Dear Sir, be my guest.” The chowk readers will appreciate your work.
Uninformed criticism is cheap like dirt. If he chooses to continue to sloth in it, it is his own choice. What can I say?
Mohammad Gill
Let me explain why I write what I write. The extent of human knowledge (at the same time, ignorance) is vast. It is nearly impossible for a person to understand and appreciate all the various fields of human knowledge. I do not and I do not pretend that I do.
Whenever I come across a god book, a good and thought-provoking article, essay or paper, I am motivated to share it with others. I do not believe that all the readers will be on the same page with me. For every cayenne and kaura, there is a BeeJay, kamath, and a nandan also.
In the article under discussion, I had taken care to mention, “It was a pleasant and educational experience on the whole which I want to share with the readers. And let me state also that this article is for the non-specialist readers.” May be cayenne and kaura did not read these lines and ran away with their criticism. If they thought that the article was too elementary for them, they should have moved on to something else, which was worthwhile for them. Obviously they are the kind of the readers whom I had forewarned. The article however did interest some other readers, which, I consider, is my reward for writing it.
The kind of articles that interests kaura are run of the mill for me. I am glad that he appreciated a couple of my “ run of the mill” articles. I wrote one of them in seven/ eight hours. I do write such articles for the sake of variety and for fun. I spend a minimum of ten days in writing an article on the ‘science’ topic. I build upon my existing knowledge, and use new knowledge that I acquire from reading new books, papers and articles (sometimes I buy a couple of books that I do not find in libraries, just for completing an article). It is hard work. I took much longer time to write some articles; for instance, a few years for writing “What is Islamization?” There is a topic on which I want to write but I am still feeling out of depth. Writing is an educational experience for me.
While cayenne probably feels good by writing, “A chimpanzee could have written this (essay) better!” I simply say to him, “Dear Sir, be my guest.” The chowk readers will appreciate your work.
Uninformed criticism is cheap like dirt. If he chooses to continue to sloth in it, it is his own choice. What can I say?
Mohammad Gill
#17 Posted by cayenne on July 13, 2005 2:57:46 am
Re: # 15
About this particular article what stands out is that all of us(all humanity) have a common ancestor irrespective of race,colour ,creed or religion.
Makes you ponder....
Dear nandan,
Yeah??.How come they deleted my post where i said a chimpanzee could have written this(the essay) better!!.Chowk censors don`t want to honor `our` common ancestor, eh?.Aren`t you riled up about this??.
Sincerely,
cayenne
About this particular article what stands out is that all of us(all humanity) have a common ancestor irrespective of race,colour ,creed or religion.
Makes you ponder....
Dear nandan,
Yeah??.How come they deleted my post where i said a chimpanzee could have written this(the essay) better!!.Chowk censors don`t want to honor `our` common ancestor, eh?.Aren`t you riled up about this??.
Sincerely,
cayenne
#16 Posted by nandan on July 13, 2005 2:41:43 am
Nice article.Well written Dr Gill.I don`t see anything dull in these articles by Dr Gill.
In fact such kind of articles make science popular ,stimulating and Fun,Instead of being in confines of `nerds.`
Yeah it`s cool.Keep it up Dr Gill
About this particular article what stands out is that all of us(all humanity) have a common ancestor irrespective of race,colour ,creed or religion.
Makes you ponder....
Nandan
#15 Posted by nandan on July 13, 2005 2:41:28 am
Nice article.Well written Dr Gill.I don`t see anything dull in these articles by Dr Gill.
In fact such kind of articles make science popular ,stimulating and Fun,Instead of being in confines of `nerds.`
Yeah it`s cool.Keep it up Dr Gill
About this particular article what stands out is that all of us(all humanity) have a common ancestor irrespective of race,colour ,creed or religion.
Makes you ponder....
Nandan
#14 Posted by cayenne on July 13, 2005 12:45:31 am
Re: # 10
There goes the socialist , appeasement brigade again.We should not tolerate mediocrity under any circumstances.Asking me whether i can write an essay is like asking Rodin, if he can assemble a two stroke engine.That`s why i don`t.But, i can read and comprehend and critique, if it doesn`t live up to my standards.Your interact leads me to assume that you are a bourgeoise upstart who abets mediocrity, `cause that is the best you can aspire to.I criticize the essay and not the individual.
There goes the socialist , appeasement brigade again.We should not tolerate mediocrity under any circumstances.Asking me whether i can write an essay is like asking Rodin, if he can assemble a two stroke engine.That`s why i don`t.But, i can read and comprehend and critique, if it doesn`t live up to my standards.Your interact leads me to assume that you are a bourgeoise upstart who abets mediocrity, `cause that is the best you can aspire to.I criticize the essay and not the individual.
#13 Posted by burpinder on July 12, 2005 11:25:15 pm
Re: # 12
Dude, I am not miffed with ole Doc Gill....
just asleep
That`s what zzzzzzz represents anyway.
Chill.
Dude, I am not miffed with ole Doc Gill....
just asleep
That`s what zzzzzzz represents anyway.
Chill.
#12 Posted by BeeJay on July 12, 2005 4:36:44 pm
#various
Cayenne, Kaura, “Burpinder”, etc.
Listen guys, just a couple of questions for you, then a hypothesis.
Q(1) Do you believe that Dr. Gill’s intentions are good or not (yes/no)?
Q(2) Do you believe that the in general the quality level of the interact (not the number) is better here than the “high volume” boards, or not (yes/no)?
If the answer to both questions is “yes” (be honest, guys!) then I present the following hypothesis:
“The reason you guys are miffed with Dr. Gill is that over here, he leaves very little room for you guys to exercise your highly developed (through a LOT of practice) “skills” from those high volume boards!”
All of you (but Kaura especially) – be a man and face the “kora such”!!
#11 Posted by kaurasach on July 12, 2005 2:51:00 pm
10,
terey kiyon chunray ladan lug paye?
when a writer posts on CHOWK - the interactors have the right to critique his works - that is the whole purpose. it is my opinion and I stated frankly.
my own writing is irrelevant to the interactions here. i don`t claim to be a great writer. i`ve been published - fyi.
terey kiyon chunray ladan lug paye?
when a writer posts on CHOWK - the interactors have the right to critique his works - that is the whole purpose. it is my opinion and I stated frankly.
my own writing is irrelevant to the interactions here. i don`t claim to be a great writer. i`ve been published - fyi.
#10 Posted by Kamath on July 12, 2005 1:47:08 pm
Re: # 8
Why don`t you try to write few elementary essays, before you judge others, old boy. They say empty vessels make lots of noise. So don`t be a empty vessel! Pick up a pen an write on anything-anything. - to start with `birds and bees`.
Why don`t you try to write few elementary essays, before you judge others, old boy. They say empty vessels make lots of noise. So don`t be a empty vessel! Pick up a pen an write on anything-anything. - to start with `birds and bees`.
#9 Posted by cayenne on July 12, 2005 11:58:42 am
Re: # 8
Thank you kaura.I was scared i might have a fatwa issued against me, what with three posts having been deleted and all.Merci.Yeah, i do LoVe Dr.Gill and his essays!!.
Thank you kaura.I was scared i might have a fatwa issued against me, what with three posts having been deleted and all.Merci.Yeah, i do LoVe Dr.Gill and his essays!!.
#8 Posted by kaurasach on July 12, 2005 7:57:35 am
Mr. Gill,
It would be interesting if you give YOUR original and unique thoughts to the contents and theories of this `essay`. negate or oppose or support these theories. u write some of the most boring stuff (with a couple of exceptions) - much to the amusement of Cayenne - who in reality loves and admires you.......
what you write here is taught in ``Intro to Anthropology`` courses in the college.
It would be interesting if you give YOUR original and unique thoughts to the contents and theories of this `essay`. negate or oppose or support these theories. u write some of the most boring stuff (with a couple of exceptions) - much to the amusement of Cayenne - who in reality loves and admires you.......
what you write here is taught in ``Intro to Anthropology`` courses in the college.
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