Indians Do Not Like Each Other

Mr.Roy,these little diifferences amongst Indians,which you perceive as dislike for each other,are nothing more than the manifestation of sibling rivalry,which is part of normal human psychology and India has always been like that--multicultural,multilingual,even multiethnic.There is nothing wrong about that.Please dont generalize on the basis of your personal experince.Have you introspected yourself that why your fellow countrymen dont like you?

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Sridhar, man, you outdid yourself on this one.The other interacts make more sense.

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Mr. Sridhar

I think you have the misofrtune of being born in a really narrow minded family and are conveniently trying to pass that off as a trait common to all Indian families. If your grandfather ``showed no interest in meeting`` your North Indian friend, he must have been a really sour old man. If your Mother called North Indian ``foreigners`` she must have not met too many people outside her immediate community.

By associating North Indian culture with Muslim (as opposed to Hindu) culture, you are betraying your prejudices. There is nothing wrong in using non-Sanskitised Hindi or prefering sher-o-shairy/ghazals to ``vedic chants``; this stupid perception of one as Hindu and the other as Muslim is yours alone.

You seem almost as stupid as the rest of your family was. I feel sorry for you.

This is just a personal opinion and reflects the personal experiences of the individual..........
i do not share the impression..................

but this thing about 29 different countries is betrays an understanding of the Indian history!!!

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Hey me been in that area .....I didnt know the story behind the succesfully run, Pakistani owned shop...:)

Mizo`s are indians too.............I don`t know how to paste pics, the best i can do is this link....

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=223629


Yeah, this is India.

{``...if Indians try to pull each other down then Pakistanis try to tear each other down...``}

Yes, that sounds right. The ultimate fates of New Delhi and Islamabad are going to mirror those of the Soviet Union and Yougoslavia, respectively. Yes, the process will be unsettling at first, but the common peoples of South Asia will be the ultimate winners.

Modern day Bharat (erroneously called ``INDIA``) and Pakistan (better to call it ``Islamabad Republic``) are two artificial and unnatural countries. Both New Delhi and Islamabad, despite half a century of so-called independence are, for the most part, still run on colonial lines (Pak more so than Bharat). For the full potential of the hardworking and creative peoples of South Asia to be realized, it is essential to free them from the shackles of Big Government and colonial style bureaucracy.
...SR

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///North just seems to imitate the predominant culture of the time. When the muslims ruled India, North Indians just dressed and spoke like muslims. That part of culture can still be seen in many North Indian hindus who seem to relish Qawalis, Ghazals more than Vedic chants.///

Going by your previous posts, you either love to be provocative or just dislike Muslims!

The Delhi Sultanate and the Mughal Empire fostered a composite culture of which the Tehzeeb of Ganga-Jamuna was one expression. The Urdu language is a product of this composite culture along with the churidar-kurta, the band-gala and the sherwani and the list is endless. Do you like Kababs? Ever eaten a Roomali Roti? Ever been to Karims in Chandani Chowk? (If you did your PG from Delhi and never been there, you are a loser!) Oh wait a second, you must be a Tan-Bram, well you are missing out on good food and no amount of Rasam can help you. But do you know that one of the most popular restaurants in Delhi serves South Indian cuisine and there is a queue to get in on any night.

As for North Indian Hindus liking Qawalis, does being a Hindu mean listening only to Vedic Chants? A number of Muslims performers, trained in the classical style, sing songs that praise Meera, Krishna etc and Guru Dakshina- worshipping your teacher-a cultural practice with religious overtones, is common to Muslim and Hindu artistes. Does one have to religiously inclined to like Sufi songs or MS Subbalakshmi?

As for culture and Tamil movies

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please check out SUN TV and rethink that one.

Sridhar, hate to tell you this, but you are no different from the Mullahs view Basant as a Hindu festival and seek to ban kite flying.

Grow up!!

What`s your ``real`` name Partha Roy??.Lemme guess!!.I bet it is Wakram something or the other, typical PAK, OR , even better, Zaminul haq, A BANGLADESHI, disgruntled and jealous `cause we indians won`t as much as piss on your kind.You are not the first person to belittle us Indians `cause of our differences.YET, we have endured and are thriving.And, that is the best testament to us.Our diversity is our strength and makes us a lot more interesting as a nation.I HATE to be rude, but in this instance, i would not be amiss to tell you to F**K OFF.

I think the chowk editors had a fit of temporary genius... some of the interacts are quite hilarious.... lol

re: North-South divide
I do know this for a fact: Indians have somehow miraculously formed themselves into a nation but there is really nothing much that binds them. For one thing, they are divided by religion, race, caste. I also have a first hand experience of how much the South Indians in general (and Tamilians in particular) dislike anyone North of the Vindhyas. When i (who am a Tamilian by birth but grew up in Delhi) went to Madras for my postgraduate studies, i often heard north Indians being referred to as ``those Hindiwallahs``. My ex-wife`s mom often referred to Northies as ``those foreigners``.
Years ago, when i went to write MD entrance exam in Pondicherry JIPMER with my north indian friend, my grandfather (a very spiritual and noble soul) showed no interest in meeting him. He always would say that north indians had no morals and were without culture. I did not agree with him then but i am not so sure now.
North just seems to imitate the predominant culture of the time. When the muslims ruled India, North Indians just dressed and spoke like muslims. That part of culture can still be seen in many North Indian hindus who seem to relish Qawalis, Ghazals more than Vedic chants. When British ruled, North Indians copied British in everyway. Now-a-days, Bollywood (the best barometer of cultural situation in North India) seems to just copy everything from USA. Even the women started dying their hair to look like blonde! And the mannerisms and dress suggest that they are either ashamed of their own culture or they just do not know what their culture really is. In striking contrast, see any Tamil movie and u will notice the difference.
The temple in North are overcrowded and noisy. And, of course very dirty. I was appalled to see the miserable state Kashi Vishwanath temple was when i visited Benaras many years ago. North Indian priests are just pathetic. I attended my Punjabi friend`s wedding in Delhi many years ago (when i was in medical school) and before the ceremonies started i wondered where the priest was. The mystery was solved soon when, following a nod from my friend, a gentleman (who i thought was a relative) suddenly took off his pant (he was wearing a Dhoti inside) and started chanting holy mantras. His holy mantras were interrupted by my friend constantly urging him to ``do it fast``. The whole ceremony was over in less than 2 hours.
Compared to this, a south indian wedding is a solemn affair. Much of this difference is due to the fact that somewhere along the line, Northies lost their true culture.
Sridhar

just a post script:

earlier today i was with some friends...merrily pounding the keyboards...one was a mahrashterian, one from allahbad, and the third from cochin...and me of course from, the land of occupation

i asked their permission to save and quote the harmony on display there to rebut partha:)

permission denied instantly

otherwise i would have pasted a sample of harmony that as they say in polls would have been correct at least four times out of possibly 1.25 billion

Why is ``group cohesion`` so important to the writer and to so many posters?? Sheep and cattle also seek ``group cohesion``. Those lacking qualifications for their ambitions also seek favors from others of their ``group``. On the other hand, the lion walks alone and proud.

labyrinth, silver

One often hears both Indians and Pakistanis claim that their own group is not as cooperative/cohesive as the other group is. That`s a natural reaction. Both would LIKE to see more internal cohesion (unity) than there actually exists. The other`s supposed unity is the excuse :)

Dude Partha Roy,

What the eff! Do you have any friends at all? I mean, are you one of those people who is in just awe of other countries and hate everything about India ? My piece of advice, talk to a lot of people, have a girl friend, and live a life.

a true story ,

my cousin opened this conveniece store in Hall Green Area of Birmingham which is where most Irish Families are settled but now asian family is settling down ....
my cousin`s neighbour is Mr.Singh who owns a huge conveniance store and next to a convenience store is another newsagent owned by same Sikh Family .... who thinks they own the whole road ..and when my cousin was opening the shop - Mr and Mrs. Singh was quite p*****off at us ..
After opening of our shop Mr. Singh and we had this fierce competition hes big but we know how to tackle them and doing well very well. Our biggest supporters are Pakistani Community and Gujrati Community ( who came from Kenya and Uganda ) and to our surprise the Sikhs also stopped comming to Mr. Singhs shop ... this amazed us as we always were in a impression that our people always supports others but to our surprise Pakistani Community supported us fully and stopped going to Mr. Singhs family even if we don`t have anything what they want. Mr. Singh asked one of his Sikh brother as to why he goes to a Pakistani`s Shop and don`t come to his , Sikh`s reply was ` woh achay loog hain aur humay jutt wasay bhe pasand nahin ` - my conclusion is that Indians don`t support Indians but Pakistanis support eachother I think its because of same religion and by the way the hindu gujrati are our biggest supporters and hate Sikh cimmunity .