Indians Do Not Like Each Other

kannaraja

Welcome.

My own case may not be typical. As a young man, I was exceptionally ignorant, rude, and vain. Also, when I worked in the south, about 15 years ago, India was still in its paleolithic age.

Here I what I knew about the south before I experienced it first hand.

Beyond the Vindhyas lay one indistinguishable mass of humanity, known as South India.

These people ate simple food, had strange, unrefined manners, wore unsphisticated clothes.

They did not know Hindi. This amazed me: How could an Indian NOT know Hindi?!! My feeling was akin to, ``How can fish not know water?``

And South Indians did not like people from the North. I was going to have a lot of problems keeping myself alive and sane there.

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Half a decade of living in the South transformed me. And I do wish that everyone in the north was as lucky as I was in experiencing what I did.

Yo Partha Roy,

If Indians in the US don`t smile at you and welcome you into their homes, it just might be because of your looks. Take a look in the mirror first before you generalize.

Also, talk to a plastic surgeon.

Re drlokraj

I remember how years ago any frikking Indian I saw in the US would start a conversation with me in Hindi, and when I said I don`t speak Hindi the bugger would ask how come I don`t know the ``national language``.

I am glad that today if you meet an Indian in the US today, the chances are 70% or higher that he is a South Indian. You frikking North Indians are reduced to running grocery stores and restaurants while most South Indians work in the high-tech industry. That is how good Hindi has been to you.

Have you tried your frikking Hindi on Americans yet, you frikking @ssho!e?

Ref drlokraj #76

[...--the same north Indians who were at the fore-front for independence struggle.]

Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi (NOT the grandfather of Indira Gandhi) - Gujarathi

Vallabhbhai Javeribhai Patel (blacked out in Indian history by Nehru) - Gujarathi

Subhash Chandra Bose - Bengali

Bhagat Singh - Punjabi

C. Rajagopalachari (1st Indian Governor-General of India) , Kamaraj, Satyamurthi, S. Radhakrishnan (President of India), R. Venkataraman (President of India) - Tamilians.

Jawaharlal Nehru who took the richest creditor nation in the British Commonwealth after World War II and turned it into a bankrupt beggar - UPwallah.

Rajendra Prasad who cast his vote and broke the tie and made Hindi the ``national language`` and permanently made UPwallahs and Bihari bhaiyyas the laughingstock of the world and most backward people in India (worse than the Oriyas) - Bihari buddhu

Indira Gandhi (``I won`t fight over land where not a blade of grass grows``) - UPwalli

Lal Bahadur Shastri who gave up any gains in the 1965 war at Tashkent - UPwallah.

I think you mofukkas from the North have done enough damage to India as a whole. Just shut up and wallow in your ignorance of Indian history rather than attempt to post crapola on Chowk.

re:#113 by kannaraja

Welcome to Chowk.

I was a 3rd generation Delhite until i migrated to US. I also kept in touch with my roots, so that i am fluent in both HIndi and Tamil. I thought i could take some liberties with my North Indian friends and say things which were otherwise hidden in the deep recesses of my heart.
I was not being harsh, just frank.
I used to have this North Indian friend during my Delhi medical school days who used to insist (quite forcefully!) that Hyderabad cannot be in South because people there spoke Hindi well! Go and figure how much knowledge of South he has.
How many Northies ever bother to learn even a few words of the South Indian lingo. When i was in Madras for my PG studies, i was surprised to find that many Tamilians (who had never visited North) knew Hindi at a conversational level. Many had learnt it just by watching movies and self-study.
Hardly any history of South was taught in schools in India (i think the situation is still the same). How many in the North have heard of Brihadeeswar Temple in Tanjore or Meenakshi temple in Madurai? The former was a topic of discussion in Discovery channel some years ago for its marvellous architecture. An average Northie`s knowledge of geography sucks. For him, everyone south of the Vindhyas is a ``madrassi``.
Sridhar

re:#111 by burpinder
Though i have been away from South (i presently live in US), i keep in close touch with my parents and other relatives who are scattered across south (Madras, Bangalore, Pondicherry, Mysore).
I do see that Northies (especially Punjabees) have been migrating to Bangalore. I can bet a $ 100 right here that not one of these suckers would have learnt Kannada. These guys are arrogant enough to think that the local population will learn hindi and all will be fine.
Kannadigas are friendly people but even they can`t take an assault on their culture for too long. You may find some simmerings of discontent which local political party will exploit. All this is waiting to happen. As long as Punjabees bring money and jobs, things will be fine.
In TN, gameplan is different. Northies have learnt local lingo. My dad has a Gujarati friend who converses fluently in Tamil with local population but switches to Hindi when he sees my him until my dad gently reminded him that he too was a Tamilian!

``Ab bhi waqt hai (sorry, should I have said ``samay``???), sudhar jaaiye, Sridhar-jee``
My jawab:
``Burpinder jee, pehley khud ko sudhariye, phir doosron ko sudharney kee sochna``
Was it not Tulsi who said:
``Bura jo dekhan mein chala, bura na milya koy
jo dil khoja aapna, mujhsa bura na koy``
Sridhar

I wish North Indians would have thought the same of Maharashtra and Mumbai as they do/did of the south.Mumbai would have been a much better city than it is today without them shysters.

Re: # 22

Hello all: I am new to chowk, my name is Raja.

rsridhar - with regards to your exp/feelings about North Indians, the way you put it seems harsh to me. I agree with some of the things that you say but not the way you say. I have had some observations while speaking to some NI`s. I completely agree with observations about ``dhoti``

Once while interacting I asked one NI why is that the cricket match fixing was rampant in NI and Gujarat/Mumbai while it was rampant and why there was never a bookie from South. Actually the match fixing was kind of shock to me and I never heard any bookies being from either HYD/Chennai/Bangalore? The answer I got had nothing to do with the question but more about what SI is/was according to him.

For what ever reason I have been mistaken by a lot of NI`s to be a punjabi. Once they know where I am from all I get is Oh your are from South, it doesn`t matter which city in South and it`s all clubbed together, and the way they say it some times leaves a bad taskte.

My mom had a similar experience when she was visitng Delhi 20-25 years ago for training and all she told be about NI`s was that NI`s claim AP to be as a back ward state and poor people with poor stadard of living.

I feel some of the NI`s are very ignorant about Indian culture, langauages, geography.

burpinder #111,
South Indians still have a strong culture of their own, which is largely uncorrupted. Don`t think what you see in a part of Bangalore as the culture of the south.

Re: # 92

Dear Mr. Sridhar,

You are living in a time warp. Come visit ``South India`` today, you`ll be shocked at the number of ``North Indians`` who have come in and corrupted your pure and temple-going culture. You are making the grave mistake of equating some orthodox variant of Brahminism (that too TamBrahmism) with South India as a whole. This is not unusual in immigrants who sometimes remain truer to the faith, for what its worth, than those they leave behind.

Ab bhi waqt hai (sorry, should I have said ``samay``???), sudhar jaaiye, Sridhar-jee.

Aapka,
Burpinder

Re: # 108

Students will go anywhere for better education.
I had stayed with Tamil/Telugu students from BITS. Pilani. He told me that BITS stands for Birla Institute of Technology Science, but there were so many Tamilians that they used to call it Birla Institute of Tamil Students. Lately Telugus are dominating it, thats what he told me.
I have come across many Tamil Brahmins, who have studied in North, since reservation makes it difficult for them in their home state.
Few yrs back, Karnataka had the highest no. of engineering colleges. Wonder whether someone overtook it.

dr sahib

Our ignorance of the South used to be worse than unforgivable. I hope the situation has changed a little, and people in the South are known for who they really are, and not just for leaving BIMARU bhaiyas and babus where the latter belong - in the dust.

Re: # 107
There has been problem at the central level.I dont know about today but when I was school kid,we were hardly taught about south India in the history text books,except Tipu Sultan.North Indians would know about south only from their own experince.I travelled south in ninetees and found out about the amazing people,places and the culture.We were quite amazed to see the law abiding people and their cool nature,hardly any eve-teasing and better level of cleanliness.
Lately another factor which attracted lot of north indians towards south,particularly Karnatka has been the no. of professional olleges there and of course the IT sector.I wish that leads to some cultural exchange also.

re: Netizen # 104

But didn`t you find that behavior charming? :)

I did, when I was in the south. I really came to appreciate what south India was all about. South has the sensitivity, passion for culture, that we don`t, yet by and large people there are more peaceful than those in the north.

rsridhar

The days of north Indians making fun of south Indians are well and truly gone (we gently leave out the stupidest of the stupid) :)

The educated young kids of North India now look upon the South with total wonder, admiration, and just the healthy dose of envy.

As far as dhoti is concerned, it is the subject of ridicule even when north indians wear it. You see, certain amount of self-hatred has seeped into our genes.

People in india are very kind and accomodating towards one another.Even if they rant and rave.Yes, there are stereotypes and bugaboos amongst all of us that are quaint and i don`t see anything wrong in poking fun at each other in good spirits.I sometimes get upset at outsiders living in Mumbai talking about my fellow `dark` skinned marathis as `ghatis` etc..But then i hear what the so-called `ghatis` have to say about the outsiders and realize there`s no love lost.Yet, everyone goes about their business and gets along and keeps the city moving.Likewise all over India.Isn`t that in itself a great achievement?.