Delhiwala July 2, 2005
#80 Posted by drlokraj on July 4, 2005 10:39:48 pm
Re: # 78
Sorry to hear about Dr Harcharan Singh. You make me nostalgic.When I joined,the first introductory lecture was by him and he asked us to write an essay that ``why I want to become a doctor.`` I still remember almost every line of what I wrote 25 years ago.
Throughout,his emphasis used to on how to become a good doctor.
One of my friends(was very senior to me) joined M.D. in S.P.M. after having done M.D. in pediatrics, just to work with Dr. Harcharan Singh.He(my friend) is still one of the vry few who have double M.D.
Sorry to hear about Dr Harcharan Singh. You make me nostalgic.When I joined,the first introductory lecture was by him and he asked us to write an essay that ``why I want to become a doctor.`` I still remember almost every line of what I wrote 25 years ago.
Throughout,his emphasis used to on how to become a good doctor.
One of my friends(was very senior to me) joined M.D. in S.P.M. after having done M.D. in pediatrics, just to work with Dr. Harcharan Singh.He(my friend) is still one of the vry few who have double M.D.
#84 Posted by delhiwala on July 5, 2005 8:02:49 am
Re: # 80
Is that Kala you are talking about?
Dr Cheema was my Masad Jee.
Is that Kala you are talking about?
Dr Cheema was my Masad Jee.
#19 Posted by Soulat on July 3, 2005 12:22:38 am
#18,
There is typo in the article. This guy actually went to Howard college and that is a black college in Washington, DC. All East coast cities are identical. Dark and dorky!
If a person writes in such a non funny style about a fun event of graduation, must have gone to Howard and not Harvard...
#18 Posted by ahmedmadani on July 3, 2005 12:15:47 am
About IIT read today some IIT man from usa is starting big airline company in India. The news says he has ordered 100 airbus airmachines that is big money. Is there market in India as most travel by slow moving railway built by english over hundred years ago. Can they have passangers for new 100 plane Introduction in India? ( or they have airports also to handle sudden 100 planes).
Thanks sorry for too many questions
Thanks sorry for too many questions
#31 Posted by delhiwala on July 3, 2005 9:53:47 am
Re: # 18
Ahmed Sahib,
India`s Railway system is not as slow as you think. It is the biggest in the world not the latest though.
There is a huge growth potential for Domestic Airlines in India due to drastic surge in IT, leading to local air travel.
As of now, Indian airports do not have required infrasturcture for the potential growth. For e.g. IGIA at Delhi does not have a CAT-II ILS systems that is critical for landing in 0/0 weather and as probably know, Delhi is full of fog in winters and haze in summers. This was the cause of many international airliners refusing to fly to India or have loimited services.
As per the Govt, India would see big changes in civil and general aviation by 2007.
Ahmed Sahib,
India`s Railway system is not as slow as you think. It is the biggest in the world not the latest though.
There is a huge growth potential for Domestic Airlines in India due to drastic surge in IT, leading to local air travel.
As of now, Indian airports do not have required infrasturcture for the potential growth. For e.g. IGIA at Delhi does not have a CAT-II ILS systems that is critical for landing in 0/0 weather and as probably know, Delhi is full of fog in winters and haze in summers. This was the cause of many international airliners refusing to fly to India or have loimited services.
As per the Govt, India would see big changes in civil and general aviation by 2007.
#38 Posted by ahmedmadani on July 3, 2005 10:23:13 am
Re: # 31 Thanks for your answers. Yes some are passed in IIT even if they failed. When I went to Gulf for very short assignment I met IIT grad ( Palestanian) and he did IIT BTech from Kharagpore. He said they are promoted even though he failed many courses. He did not like the branch assigned to him, they were inflexible, hye had no choice as otherwise he would have lost scholorship and admission. He was mad as he was not given mechanical engg but mining engg and he had no interest in that. Later he went to college and did civil engg in USA and is working at big position. As he was given free scholarship and education he had contempt for IIT college. So he being big manager ( hire and fire) gave me his preference for hiring - us college-europe college- Arab college-pakistan-IIT and other colleges in India.
Due to that I asked question the other ordinary Indian students are graded in usual way of their condition is taken into account while grading.
I have watched pictures of Indian railway being rail fan of all world railways. Few times gone to India, you have good local service specially at peak at bombay city where it was fun to watch local train coming every 2 minutes.
About Hyderbad metro I saw pictures its not good. It looks like bombay local chhap type. Metro to be called means it should be shining clean, modern and should be underground most of time. Also lots of people one can see with open doors poking out bodies and people crossing rail path. It is different as some pictures show lots of hundreds of people riding roof of railway. Thanks.
Due to that I asked question the other ordinary Indian students are graded in usual way of their condition is taken into account while grading.
I have watched pictures of Indian railway being rail fan of all world railways. Few times gone to India, you have good local service specially at peak at bombay city where it was fun to watch local train coming every 2 minutes.
About Hyderbad metro I saw pictures its not good. It looks like bombay local chhap type. Metro to be called means it should be shining clean, modern and should be underground most of time. Also lots of people one can see with open doors poking out bodies and people crossing rail path. It is different as some pictures show lots of hundreds of people riding roof of railway. Thanks.
#46 Posted by delhiwala on July 3, 2005 4:15:42 pm
Re: # 38
I can assure you one thing no matter where you are in the world(with some exceptions), anybody who is a B. TECH from any IIT in India from any branch would be hired at the drop of a hat.
I have seen a Chemical Engg from IIT Delhi(not very high in the scale) being hired by IBM with a starting salary of $120 base + bonus with no IT experience, except some progamming skills in his area of expertise.
This guy ended up creating a microcode based language that is used by IBM microelectrics now. I am not saying this because I was born in India or I am envious of IITians but because I see it on a daily basis.
As far as other Asian IITians are concerned, I really don`t know what to say. Most of them were Political refugees when Indira Gandhi was trying to be friendly with Yasser Arafat. and other NAM countries. These Palestinians(most of them that I knew) were family guys and were happy to live in India in IIT campus hostels with subsidized food. I was told that Palestinians live in camps in their country and India(a third world country) was a haven for them. I did meet 2 foreign IITians(one S African and one Romanian) who went to IIT Madras and they were very happy about IIT, they work in Boston now.
As far as Indian Railways are concerned; they work in India for the Indians. You can travel from N Delhi to Secundrabad, a distance of 1100 miles for $8-10, what else do you want?
It costs, $8 R/T from NJ to NYC, a distance of 5-10 miles.
I can assure you one thing no matter where you are in the world(with some exceptions), anybody who is a B. TECH from any IIT in India from any branch would be hired at the drop of a hat.
I have seen a Chemical Engg from IIT Delhi(not very high in the scale) being hired by IBM with a starting salary of $120 base + bonus with no IT experience, except some progamming skills in his area of expertise.
This guy ended up creating a microcode based language that is used by IBM microelectrics now. I am not saying this because I was born in India or I am envious of IITians but because I see it on a daily basis.
As far as other Asian IITians are concerned, I really don`t know what to say. Most of them were Political refugees when Indira Gandhi was trying to be friendly with Yasser Arafat. and other NAM countries. These Palestinians(most of them that I knew) were family guys and were happy to live in India in IIT campus hostels with subsidized food. I was told that Palestinians live in camps in their country and India(a third world country) was a haven for them. I did meet 2 foreign IITians(one S African and one Romanian) who went to IIT Madras and they were very happy about IIT, they work in Boston now.
As far as Indian Railways are concerned; they work in India for the Indians. You can travel from N Delhi to Secundrabad, a distance of 1100 miles for $8-10, what else do you want?
It costs, $8 R/T from NJ to NYC, a distance of 5-10 miles.
#17 Posted by ahmedmadani on July 3, 2005 12:02:46 am
Thanks for article about worlds greatest collge. I am confused is there same named college in UK also ( oxford harward and cambridge?). Sir Izzac Newton was prof there in 1600s.
How much is fee per year and is it more engg college like IIT. ( Indians compare that college to IIT). How much is fee for IIT per year? Is harward in IT areas like IIT?
Do they reserve seats for minorities and backward hindus in IIT? Are there any seats for SARAC countries and if yes how much fee per year in dollars? If special reservations are made once admitted to disadvantaged students graded on different scale considering disadvantages or treated as normal students ?
Can any american address if IIT grad and Harwad apply assuming both fine how much harward will have advantage in dollars ? How is lahores managemwnt school grads do in usa? Is IIT engg + management courses taken for engineers or they have MBA (IIT). Which is best IIT in India ? Can any body give how for start salary they do?
Thanks too many questions. I have heard about IIT.
In Arab land IIT is not considered very good.
American collge degree
Europe degree (England top)
Arabic univ- native vernacular schools
Pakistan Univs
IITs
is order.
How much is fee per year and is it more engg college like IIT. ( Indians compare that college to IIT). How much is fee for IIT per year? Is harward in IT areas like IIT?
Do they reserve seats for minorities and backward hindus in IIT? Are there any seats for SARAC countries and if yes how much fee per year in dollars? If special reservations are made once admitted to disadvantaged students graded on different scale considering disadvantages or treated as normal students ?
Can any american address if IIT grad and Harwad apply assuming both fine how much harward will have advantage in dollars ? How is lahores managemwnt school grads do in usa? Is IIT engg + management courses taken for engineers or they have MBA (IIT). Which is best IIT in India ? Can any body give how for start salary they do?
Thanks too many questions. I have heard about IIT.
In Arab land IIT is not considered very good.
American collge degree
Europe degree (England top)
Arabic univ- native vernacular schools
Pakistan Univs
IITs
is order.
#30 Posted by delhiwala on July 3, 2005 9:48:44 am
Re: # 17
Dude,
you have one million questions in your post.
My $.02 about IITs
Best IITs in India would in this order in my opinion, kharagpur/Kanpur/Delhi/Bombay/Roorke and the rest.
Kanpur U.P is probably the best in terms of student/teaching quality.
Delhi is best in terms of labs and resources and funding.
IITs are only technology, you can compare IIT to MIT but not Harvard.
As far foreign students are concerned, they do take some NRI(non resident Indians), SAARC students etc. You would need recommendations from your Govt.
I remember that there used to lot of Palestinian students in IIT Delhi, and could still get degree even if they failed(don`t know how it happened).
M Tech courses are not as great as B Tech at IITS, mostly IAS aspirants would join M Tech to save time and money and prepare for IAS while enrolled in M Tech.
Dude,
you have one million questions in your post.
My $.02 about IITs
Best IITs in India would in this order in my opinion, kharagpur/Kanpur/Delhi/Bombay/Roorke and the rest.
Kanpur U.P is probably the best in terms of student/teaching quality.
Delhi is best in terms of labs and resources and funding.
IITs are only technology, you can compare IIT to MIT but not Harvard.
As far foreign students are concerned, they do take some NRI(non resident Indians), SAARC students etc. You would need recommendations from your Govt.
I remember that there used to lot of Palestinian students in IIT Delhi, and could still get degree even if they failed(don`t know how it happened).
M Tech courses are not as great as B Tech at IITS, mostly IAS aspirants would join M Tech to save time and money and prepare for IAS while enrolled in M Tech.
#16 Posted by twintopaz on July 2, 2005 11:08:30 pm
This reminds me of my graduation day and consecutive reunions at IBA...good ol`days..
i wish i could reverse the wheel of time and start all over again..
i wish i could reverse the wheel of time and start all over again..
#9 Posted by temporal on July 2, 2005 4:43:36 pm
stuka #7:
:)
yah to harvard ka standard gir gaya hay (spelling mistakes galore;))
ya phir humara standard ooncha ho gaya hay thanks to chowk!
:)
yah to harvard ka standard gir gaya hay (spelling mistakes galore;))
ya phir humara standard ooncha ho gaya hay thanks to chowk!
#8 Posted by JagdeeshGodbole on July 2, 2005 3:53:50 pm
Is the author trying to say that IITs promote elitism while Harvard and MIT don`t?
This must be the statement of the century!
This must be the statement of the century!
#10 Posted by delhiwala on July 2, 2005 8:29:16 pm
Re: # 8
Excuse me Sir, my statement is 100 % true.
Imagine IITian and IAS in India and compare them to CEOs or other leaders in America who went to harvard. Where do you see more elitism?
I see more elitism in India than in America. Check your vectors buddy.
Excuse me Sir, my statement is 100 % true.
Imagine IITian and IAS in India and compare them to CEOs or other leaders in America who went to harvard. Where do you see more elitism?
I see more elitism in India than in America. Check your vectors buddy.
#7 Posted by stuka on July 2, 2005 3:26:00 pm
``Mr. Harvard was still sitting in the same posture on a high pedestal as I had left him last time when I had shined his shoes before my Final Exam. ``
I don`t think you actually attended Harvard or you would know that the statue is not actually of John Harvard but of a student model instead. Heck, I did not go to Harvard and I knew that simply by living in the vicinity.
I don`t think you actually attended Harvard or you would know that the statue is not actually of John Harvard but of a student model instead. Heck, I did not go to Harvard and I knew that simply by living in the vicinity.
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