Delhiwala July 2, 2005
#1 Posted by harimau on July 2, 2005 10:26:46 am
Delhiwala wrote:
[IIT/IIS were conceived by Nehru in 50ies as model colleges where world class top-notch education would be provided to the merit based students.]
Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.
It is clear that India is full of idiots who cannot even google for basic facts before they write crap like this.
One thing going for you though: if you actually attended Harvard, you didn`t copy your term papers from the internet because you don`t have the skills for that. You bought them from some fellow hawking them at street corners.
PS. The only thing Nehru could conceive of was a Stalinist cult in his name in India.
[IIT/IIS were conceived by Nehru in 50ies as model colleges where world class top-notch education would be provided to the merit based students.]
Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.
It is clear that India is full of idiots who cannot even google for basic facts before they write crap like this.
One thing going for you though: if you actually attended Harvard, you didn`t copy your term papers from the internet because you don`t have the skills for that. You bought them from some fellow hawking them at street corners.
PS. The only thing Nehru could conceive of was a Stalinist cult in his name in India.
#2 Posted by nazarhayatkhan on July 2, 2005 10:34:21 am
Servjit
Harvard is in a different leauge.
But I agree that most US universities are just money making machines. Producing mechanical robots and not scholars. Also giving the Eastern students a psychological punishment of lonliness.
European (including Eastern Europe) & Russian Universities still retain a cultural flavour, have a much longer history, are much cheaper and do tend to produce thinking scholers.
But this `sheep mentality` gets everyone to US - just like every one jumped into IT as if there was no other subject to study.
nhk
Harvard is in a different leauge.
But I agree that most US universities are just money making machines. Producing mechanical robots and not scholars. Also giving the Eastern students a psychological punishment of lonliness.
European (including Eastern Europe) & Russian Universities still retain a cultural flavour, have a much longer history, are much cheaper and do tend to produce thinking scholers.
But this `sheep mentality` gets everyone to US - just like every one jumped into IT as if there was no other subject to study.
nhk
#3 Posted by khamkhwa. on July 2, 2005 10:35:56 am
[Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.]
harimau...
you calling dilliwala stupid?... i guess you too know him ...;)
harimau...
you calling dilliwala stupid?... i guess you too know him ...;)
#4 Posted by tahmed32 on July 2, 2005 11:08:53 am
Greetings, delhiwala. Now I wish I had studied there. :-) I have been to Harvard a few times (not as a student, sad to say - just as a visitor), and it indeed has a nice atmosphere. The students all seem very studious (as one would expect), and I would see them deeply absorbed in their textbooks even in this metro from Boston to Harvard Yard. However, I must say I prefer good old Panjab University, Lahore myself. They didnt teach us as much as they would have done at Harvard, but the two years at New Campus Lahore was among the best times of my life.
#5 Posted by Mike on July 2, 2005 11:59:25 am
Delhiwala..dont mind Khamkhwa...he is just jealous that you did your MBA at Harvard while he did his at Rawalpindi...
#6 Posted by jang on July 2, 2005 12:59:13 pm
thank you for your well writtern essay. please write more. some suggestions
``How i spent an afternoon on the Charles``
``An evening at the Fanuil Hall Maketplace``
``How i spent an afternoon on the Charles``
``An evening at the Fanuil Hall Maketplace``
#7 Posted by stuka on July 2, 2005 3:26:00 pm
``Mr. Harvard was still sitting in the same posture on a high pedestal as I had left him last time when I had shined his shoes before my Final Exam. ``
I don`t think you actually attended Harvard or you would know that the statue is not actually of John Harvard but of a student model instead. Heck, I did not go to Harvard and I knew that simply by living in the vicinity.
I don`t think you actually attended Harvard or you would know that the statue is not actually of John Harvard but of a student model instead. Heck, I did not go to Harvard and I knew that simply by living in the vicinity.
#8 Posted by JagdeeshGodbole on July 2, 2005 3:53:50 pm
Is the author trying to say that IITs promote elitism while Harvard and MIT don`t?
This must be the statement of the century!
This must be the statement of the century!
#9 Posted by temporal on July 2, 2005 4:43:36 pm
stuka #7:
:)
yah to harvard ka standard gir gaya hay (spelling mistakes galore;))
ya phir humara standard ooncha ho gaya hay thanks to chowk!
:)
yah to harvard ka standard gir gaya hay (spelling mistakes galore;))
ya phir humara standard ooncha ho gaya hay thanks to chowk!
#10 Posted by delhiwala on July 2, 2005 8:29:16 pm
Re: # 8
Excuse me Sir, my statement is 100 % true.
Imagine IITian and IAS in India and compare them to CEOs or other leaders in America who went to harvard. Where do you see more elitism?
I see more elitism in India than in America. Check your vectors buddy.
Excuse me Sir, my statement is 100 % true.
Imagine IITian and IAS in India and compare them to CEOs or other leaders in America who went to harvard. Where do you see more elitism?
I see more elitism in India than in America. Check your vectors buddy.
#12 Posted by delhiwala on July 2, 2005 8:34:29 pm
Re: # 1
Mr Harimau:
Naam Burra Aur Darshan Chote!
Give credit where due. I am not a Nehru fan but the man is truly responsible of sowing the seeds of educational establishments patterned after Cambridge, University of Leningrad and MIT. But for him there would be no IIT/IIS and IARC in India.
Even Pakistani leadership has acknowledged at numerous times Nehru`s contributions for India. He is known as Father of Modern India.
Mr Harimau:
Naam Burra Aur Darshan Chote!
Give credit where due. I am not a Nehru fan but the man is truly responsible of sowing the seeds of educational establishments patterned after Cambridge, University of Leningrad and MIT. But for him there would be no IIT/IIS and IARC in India.
Even Pakistani leadership has acknowledged at numerous times Nehru`s contributions for India. He is known as Father of Modern India.
#13 Posted by delhiwala on July 2, 2005 8:36:39 pm
Re: # 6
Thank You Jang.
I do miss Boston very much.
I have whole pothi of my daily logs that hopefuly one day I will publish in free time.
Thank You Jang.
I do miss Boston very much.
I have whole pothi of my daily logs that hopefuly one day I will publish in free time.
#14 Posted by delhiwala on July 2, 2005 8:42:00 pm
Re: # 2
NHK:
I do agree with you that Eastern students are left lonely in America, generally speaking.
At Harvard I was lucky because I met some wonderful fellow students at MIT. In fact there is a full fledged Bhangra Team at MIT that competes all over the world at University level.
One basic difference between American and Indian system of education that I noticed big time was that; I was used to being sincere only during the few weeks prior to the exams. Whereas in America you pretty much have to consistent from day one and have to apply your mind constantly, linearly otherwise you wont make it. Even the very first, introductory class gives you a framework of what to expect year round is very imperative.
NHK:
I do agree with you that Eastern students are left lonely in America, generally speaking.
At Harvard I was lucky because I met some wonderful fellow students at MIT. In fact there is a full fledged Bhangra Team at MIT that competes all over the world at University level.
One basic difference between American and Indian system of education that I noticed big time was that; I was used to being sincere only during the few weeks prior to the exams. Whereas in America you pretty much have to consistent from day one and have to apply your mind constantly, linearly otherwise you wont make it. Even the very first, introductory class gives you a framework of what to expect year round is very imperative.
#15 Posted by delhiwala on July 2, 2005 8:51:35 pm
Re: # 4
Thanks Tahmed Sir Jee!
It has it`s own charm, there are many people who never leave Universities in their life. They just want to hang on there doing odd jobs.
Mostly, Boston Colleges are money making machines. Maybe there are 5-10% sincere students who really fall under studious category. Rest of them are just there to work hard, get good grades and move on.
One area that I really like at Harvard was Divinity. If time permits one day I would like to go back and study Divinity there.
Thanks Tahmed Sir Jee!
It has it`s own charm, there are many people who never leave Universities in their life. They just want to hang on there doing odd jobs.
Mostly, Boston Colleges are money making machines. Maybe there are 5-10% sincere students who really fall under studious category. Rest of them are just there to work hard, get good grades and move on.
One area that I really like at Harvard was Divinity. If time permits one day I would like to go back and study Divinity there.
#16 Posted by twintopaz on July 2, 2005 11:08:30 pm
This reminds me of my graduation day and consecutive reunions at IBA...good ol`days..
i wish i could reverse the wheel of time and start all over again..
i wish i could reverse the wheel of time and start all over again..
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