A Moment of Silence

the man from nigeria, explained

.......... i went back and read this ``poem`` to see if i had missed something, but there is nothing to miss - this ``piece`` is gibberish and anyone who is trying to make any sense out of it should also consider buying a bridge in brooklyn ............ i am really surprised farzana fell for this hoax - i always thought she had more brains than all the men on chowk put together .............

............ but this ``piece`` does explain why i keep on getting this letter from the man in nigeria who wants my bank account number so that he can deposit a million dollars - like ozer, he deserves full credit for trying and trying again ..........

#24 Umer

Dear Umer, I’m shocked.

Although I kind of understand why you are frustrated with this poem, you know ALL life is precious (especially those of children)! Can we keep this discussion limited to the quality and genuineness of this “poem”, please!

Thanks.
BeeJay.


#17 FarzanaVersey (Addendum)
Farzana, if you share HP’s opinion that I’m “stalking” you, just say so and I’ll stop directing interacts to you. It’s not a big deal (really!) Thanks!

With all due respect,

Who gives a flying fuck about the dead of the 9/11? Who are they? Who cares? So we`ll have ripe tomatoes growing on the soil of the twin towers. People die all the time: Hindus, Muslims, black white, children, adults, men, women...

The truth is, if we spent even a single second of silence for every individual who had died unjustly, we`d never talk. Better to carry on and live your life and make sure it`s not YOU who`s hurting the other.

Ever since I slaughtered my first animal and saw how obedient the beast was and how easy it was to run that blade across its neck, I`m wondering if death is overrated, like one of those fancy roller coaster rides.

Umer M.

Lets have a moment of silence for the ONE MILLION Bengalis slaughtered by Pakistani Muslim psychopaths in the Kihad of 1971.

Lets have a moment of silence for the ONE MILLION Armenian Christians slaughtered by Turkish Muslim psychopaths in the Turkish Jihads at the start of the twentieth century.

Lets have a moment of silence for all the infidel victims of Islamic Jihadi psychopathic violence over the last hundred years, and the poor defenceless Christians and Animists being raped and slaughtered in the Sudan today.

Save the World from the Islamic Psychopaths. Can we have a few moments of silence please?

Amen.

#21 HP

HP – my dear friend,

I’m not sure whether you are confused or not!

I believe that author Versey is fully capable of understanding and (if necessary, responding to) my simple, janitorial opinion of the “work” being discussed. The accusation of “stalking” is wrong and grossly unfair (especially if one is to go by the number of interacts on individuals’ boards, I’m far, far outnumbered by other individuals, such as YOURSELF!)

Author Versey, (in view of #21), are you sure you have the knights right?

Sincerely,
BeeJay.

#20

Stop stalking Farzana... Find something else to do!

#17 by FarzanaVersey

Author Versey:

Since you have on purpose chosen to make an appearance here to throw in your “critique” of this piece of garbage in an apparently transparent, feeble, and totally futile attempt to legitimize this “poet”, I consider it my sacred duty, as a conscientious chowk community member (yes, there ARE creatures like that in this jungle), to bring to your attention that your attempts to rehabilitate this discredited entity appear utterly pathetic and totally moronic to me!

It’s clear to all SANE individuals on this web-site (a definition which may or may not include “out of ordinary” individuals such as yourself) that this piece of “poetry” is little more than a half-hearted slapping together of newspaper headlines (a technique which I’m sure you are intimately familiar with), tear-jerker Harlequin romance novel titles (which can probably still melt low-level intellects (and I’m not naming any names here (I like to stay alive, you see)) by deluging them with “soft” words, and other stuff specifically targeted to take advantage of the limited attention span of our vast multitude of innocent chowkies!

This “poet” is a repeat criminal – he has a track record of trying to commit the same crime earlier, when he conned (confused?) even the likes of seasoned veterans such as Dr. LokRaj into confusing man-goo with mango! He also has a history of carrying out delusional conversations with his numerous alter-egos. He needs psychiatric counseling administered by a professional shrink, not the services of a second- or third-rate poetry critic!

Everything about this “poet” is crooked! If you don’t believe me, go check his picture on his interactor’s page. Let’s leave aside for a moment the possibility that it may not REALLY be his picture, the fact that he wears a goatee (indicating that he may or may not be a member of the clan of closet “beards”), the fact that he doesn’t even know how to SPELL “chowkies” accurately, and a few other details – just look at his unnatural posture! The way he sits should make it plain – anyone, even you, can see it – that he is CROOKED! Just look at his left arm – how UNNATURALLY it goes around his back (and what SANE individual would smoke a cigarette in this age of enlightenment, I ask you!) I am not sure, but he even seems to have a third leg which he blatantly exposes high up to the thigh – how shameless an individual one must be to accomplish THAT feat!

I’m at a certain disadvantage in elaborating further on the merits of this strange creature of thousand words that this “poet” has vomited – since I’m not a poet, merely a janitor! But I’m extremely sensitive to situations which need an immediate and thorough clean-up. The clincher evidence, of course, is that in my professional capacity as a janitor, I can assure you that a refrigerator can NEVER be frozen (unless you move it inside another, larger freezer)! If, in spite of all this evidence, you still see some legitimacy in his work, then there could even be a slight possibility that you may be blind!

Sincerely,
BeeJay.

#18

You know I rarely agree with you but on this count, I got go with you :)

Poems are about expressions, about hints and allegations, about subtle emotions and about deep thinking. And what do we see here…Sara jahan ka dard humary jigr main hai aur who bhi badtehzeebi say!

here we go again !

.......... first, if this is a poem then i am a peter pan ........... second, who cares ?....... we have bigger problems - like what to have for dinner tonight or whether to wear briefs or boxers ...................

......but seriously, did anyone read this .... this ..... whatyoumayallit ?......... it seems that every time nature calls and someone has an urge they think it is okay to defecate all over chowk ....... who is going to clean up this mess ?

........... but i did get the message - the ummah has been wronged and it is justified in blowing up things that they do not understand and cannot hope to build themselves ......... is that it?....... now can we get back to working on the dinner menu ?

Woody Allen, a Westerner: ``As a filmmaker, I`m not interested in 9/11, it`s too small, history overwhelms it. The history of the world is like: He kills me, I kill him, only with different cosmetics and different castings. So in 2001, some fanatics killed some Americans, and now some Americans are killing some Iraqis. And in my childhood, some Nazis killed Jews. And now, some Jewish people and some Palestinians are killing each other....Political quesitons, if you go back thousands of years, are ephemeral -- not important. History is the same thing over and over again.`` (Pagesix.com)

Ozer:

An individual voice has every right to be rendered, that is the reason why I thought your prologue could either be seen as defensive or a pre-emptive self-chastisement before a `crime`. And speaking out IS a crime. Don`t you know you are supposed to live in a balanced world, where every word must be weighed against another? You cannot speak about only one side -- what about the other, they will ask you. What about the atrocities in your own backyard? Talk about those. Leave the West alone...

This is when your silence should come in handy. Instead, you say, ``Inevitably this poem will be misinterpreted by the unseeing naked masses and Machiavelli’s children.``

This is too vast a spectrum...or if irony befits, then the unseeing naked masses are helpless products of Machiavellis.Their ears too are ``clogged with wax``, but for different reasons.

If ``This NEVER intended to be a 9/11 poem``, you have to go that extra mile...and you have tried. There are lines that reach out to be ``piled`` but not ``slipped off our tongues``.

I hope you are not one of those who will stay snug only in the ``anguish and affliction``. I am aware that poetry is an intensely personal expression, but the long sentences could have been pared down, if only to give it a rhythm.

Cliches are often truisms, but not terribly poetic...Why did you have to use the newspaper-like ``US intransigence and Osama`s arrogance not two sides of the same coin`` when it was to be followed with, ``Both are hunters with hungry intent``? Why kill your own lines?

Also, the use of some words in Caps appeared self-conscious- the flow should be its own emphasis.

``But tonight, we will keep on screaming``...and will you hear those screams when your ears are clogged with wax?

``But leave the poets.
Whose innocuously magnetic poetry will remain
On the frozen refrigerator of our consciousness ...``

Are you sure?! Pray, why? If innocuous poetry can be magnetic and refrigerators can be frozen, then I`ll be damed to leave the poets.

You will understand that I am only ``slaying``, only ``singing``, but not for ``the dead``...but for those who strive to be alive.

khwaja sera...
i can see kulsumbeig and husnaangelique here...waiting for thunder, spiritualgypsey,sarahhashwani,moazzammudasar and last but not the least hamidm...;)

Paki sala Paki rahega, he can feel pain for Agentinians and Chileans but nothing about the monumental scale murder, rape and pillage they commited in Bangladesh. Or closer home the entire destruction of a nation and a people in the name of ``strategic depth``.

this bugger knows about Zapatistas in Chiapas or Iraqi`s in Falluja but mention Kaluchak, Hazara`s or kunduz, he will have to reach for google.

Re: # 7

Scout

Honor killings in Pakistan are shameful while patriarchs are fleeing, assassins are brandishing their venom through age-old Hudood Ordinances introduced during Zia`s epoch. Police constables and law enforcers with greased palms turn deaf dumb and blind to the nauseating reality. Masi Mai is merely one instructive case in point.

As for female infanticide in India, the Atharva Veda postulates: ``The birth of a girl, grant elsewhere; here, grant a boy`` The repugnancy and travesty of female infanticide is rooted in the Vedic period. Moments of gender discrimination are evidenced in the writings of Manu. The prevalent and prostituted philosophy in most societies, of Eastern or Western persuasion, is that the female is under the custody of males

From womb to tomb.

In patrilineal-ravaged societies like South Asia archaic traditions from time immemorial coupled with a staggering demand for dowry exacerbates the perpetuation of infanticide.

The malevolent attitude vis-a-vis women is especially rampant in Tamil Nadu and Bihar. In Rajasthan, mostly amongst the Rajputs who enjoy a majority there, daughters of life are seen as a

Burden of nature.

Re: # 11

Urstruly note that at least 5,000 civilians have been slaughtered ``during`` the invasion of Iraq alone. As more evidence is collated, month by month this figure tilts toward 10,000.
Iraq Body Count (IBC), a volunteer group of US intelligentsia painstakingly gathered this evidence which testifies, as you rightly point out, that a 9/11 occurs every month. But where are the sound bites now? Abu Ghraib is yet another feather in Uncle Sam`s tyrannical foreign policy cap.

Re: # 10

AV KRISHNA

You hit the nail on the metaphorical head. Foolhardy would be the souls who dismiss the fact that violence is waged against Hindus and Sikhs who are gruellingly massacred in Jammu & Kashmir and elsewhere. 700,000 Kashmiri Pandits in refugee camps without evenhandedness, unfortunately any type of ehtnic, class, religion and caste-based grandstanding inflates the ego away from truism and justice. Underneath this shady veneer lies political ambition and ill-fated nationalism.

Society needs more Arundhati Roy`s, martyrs en route to greater things. Planned shows of consciousness by political heavyweights never cuts the mustard. And lip-service gesturing is the satire we breath-

Day in. Day out.

All ethnicities, classes, castes and religions have a part to play in these toxic acts of violence. Gujarat is a case in point. I remember that India Today reported that A group of outsiders from the far-right extremist leaning Deobandi Tableeghi Muslim sect sieged the mosques in Godhra and deliberately inflamed passions and inflated theological egos. 500 cows were slaughtered illegally in Bharuch in February. Many plots are conveniently foiled by the media. This is the essence of my poem.

The question AV krishna is why are these apparent facts, such as the Godhra massacre and other anti-Sikh anti-Hindu anti-Muslim anti-Buddhist communal conflagrations not debated in the media ?

Assuming that Ameican`s own concervative estimates of 120,000+ Iraqis deaths since Americans ``freed`` them on March 20, 2003, are correct; and the number of months US has been in Iraq is 30. Which means that with an average 4000 Iraqi deaths per month, Americans are potentially causing a 9/11 every month in Iraq.

poem please....