Bunty aur Babli: The latest RSS-BJP tango

Tahmed Chachu calling SC Bose names is like a famished ugly neutered street mongrel barking at the stars...

ana: greetings. lurking, I see. When you should be working.

Mike #171 So, you acknowledge that you worship a Nazi bootlicker. That is certainly more honest than your other countrymen who chose to ignore this fact.

As for Jinnah - call him what you like. He got what he wanted. (I am trying not to laugh, since I know that annoys you).

ana..thanks for the info. Much appreciated.

just in case everyone hasn`t figured it out yet. mike is yet another reincarnation of gujjubania.

cheers!

HP: ``His (Bose`s) stupid guiding principal was “enemy of my enemy…”.

What else would you expect from a dumb RSS-type suffering from complexes and burning with resentments at being an ugly little guy. :-)

better a nazi bootlicker than a mullah+british ar$e licker (Jinnah)...

DM #166 ``For your kind information, every Bengali and his poodle considers Bose to be a hero, including the communists and even Naxalites.``

Doesnt say much for the poodle, does it. :-)

shishapa: We Pakistanis have the excuse of having no choice in the matter of having an elected president. What is your excuse for worshipping the Nazi/Japanese bootlicker Bose??

Dost-Mittar...whats wrong about being a BJP supporter ? For your information , 36% of India`s electorate voted for BJP led combination in the last election , although BJP lost. Also ,please note India registered its best years since independence in the 6 years of BJP rule , shedding off the baggage of 2-3% hindu rate of growth under socialist Congress to average economic growth rates of 6-7% under BJP. Highways were built , power plants were started , telecom lines were laid , IT became a reality etc. etc.

Re # 161

I think Pakistan, with its current hairami president, terrorist cabinet ministers like Sheikh Rashid and nalayak army in charge of the country is everyone`s worst nightmare, more so its citizens`. No ha! ha! here.

HP:

``The people that are writing romantic stories and some that are making Bose a major figure in independence struggle are all RSS/BJP Hindutva folks.
Bose did play a part but so did many other Indians.``

Your hatred for hindutva-vadis is understandable but you seem to have a tendency to label anyone who does not agree with your viewpoint on India to be RSS/BJP/Hindutva folks. You should shed this misperception, otherwise you will end up putting the same lable on all Indians, and not just the Hindus.

For your kind information, every Bengali and his poodle considers Bose to be a hero, including the communists and even Naxalites. Shyam Benegal had to move the premier of his film on Bose from Calcutta to Jaipur because they did not like his reference to his daughter being born out of wedlock. And back in late 1940s and early 1950s you couldn`t see a calendar (the ``Gallup Poll`` of those times) in any shop, whether Congressi or Communists (Jan Sangh was still to be born and RSS was hated because of Gandhi`s murder) which did not have a picture of Gandhi, Nehru and Bose - all together. Kaurasach is right, it is the Congress Party which has sidelined everyone else in order to take the sole credit for independence. The only one who escaped marginalisation by them is Patel, and you may perhaps give some credit to the saffronites -both inside and outside the Congress- for that.

Even now, followers of Bose, The Forward Block, are completely opposed to the BJP and RSS. Of course, BJP will try to appropriate anyone - Vajpayee did so with even Gandhi - to win support. This means nothing.

So FV-ji`s letter in Asian Age as registered quite a response from the newspaper reading junta. However the replies are too mild and too polite for my taste. Somebody should have had called a spade a bloody spade as address Ms.Versey as the cold blooded India hating Pakistan agent that she is......and the authorities should ideally send those like her into some stinky Indian jail for sedition .

From my article: “They have learned the ropes of fake moderation from the same school – the RSS. Advani messed up Agra; Vajpayee looked pained at his efforts failing. This was predetermined. To use the RSS’ newfound love for filmi patois, the nayak would talk peace; the khalnayak would botch up the plans. The hero would do nothing and the nayika would take a midnight flight back home.”

[#8 by arjun_m on June 20, 2005 11:21am PT

Advani messed up Agra;

Once against FV swallows the Paki line...What was messed up in Agra? What`s wrong in getting the military ruler Pakistan to acknowledge the terrorist activities that end up killing citizens of your(?) country?]

And now….

[#151 by arjun_m on June 23, 2005 4:59am PT
#146 by FarzanaVersey on June 23, 2005 1:07am PT

“If someone says that I have been fed the ``Paki line``, I just let that pass because it has been taken from that ink on the wall. And it has just got tangled...”

Don`t misrepresent what I said and make it sound benign...What I said was clear...There was a buffet of information available to you....you instinctively picked up the item that was under the paki flag...

It fits in with your whole worldview...the pandits are devious SOBs who had it coming....anyone raising the issue of the poor innocent persecuted jihadis who had nothing to do with the pandits departure was responsible for sinking agra....]

You are the one misinterpreting. First you do not understand the analogy of the comment I made in the article. Two, you relate it to the Kashmiri Pandit issue that was not raised in this article nor in my post.

Go ahead…make your day with these old tactics.

re: Rahul # 145

On the contrary, the only durable conflicts are between contradictory ideas and between unsympathetic cultures.

Ground reality

Sir, With reference to Farzana Versey’s letter Ominous Signs (June 20), I am the one who had written the letter to the JKLF in 1989 to which Aditya Rangroo has alluded in Homeless Pandits (June 18). The ground realities unfolded by 15 years of externally supported and abetted terrorism in Kashmir leading to the selective killing of nearly a thousand members of the Kashmiri Pandits during the initial days when KLF (later on JKLF) raised religious slogans, have convinced the whole world that Kashmir terrorism is integral to the Wahhabi ideological movement. In fact, OIC has given the status of an observer to the religion-based secessionist Hurriyat and not to any popular group from Kashmir just because Pakistan pleaded that Kashmir is the unfinished task of partition. In pursuance of the above ideological goal, Kashmiri terrorists would not like missing the opportunity of taking on even the President of Pakistan who is also from the Army. The story of governor Jagmohan’s logistical support to the exodus of the Pandits is the old canard which even the most virulent of his opponents, namely Dr Farooq Abdullah, also contradicted, albeit later. The works of public welfare which Mr Jagmohan did for Kashmir during his tenure endeared him to the masses in Kashmir to the extent that Muslim women in Srinagar sang his praises as part of contemporary folklore (wanwun). Of course, while dealing with the anti-national elements, he saw that the law of the land reigned supreme. If anyone in Kashmir had a strong clout in the Indian ruling apparatus, it were the stalwarts of the Kashmir political platform like Sheikh Abdullah, Bakshi Ghulam Muhammad, G.M. Sadiq, Mir Qasim, Dr Farooq Abdullah and Mufti Muhammad Sayeed who enjoyed the best of both worlds. If the Pandits had any say, neither Article 370 would be there nor the fatal status quo clause in the Simla Agreement. And thus the Kashmir issue would have been non-existent. Finally, the successful ethnic cleansing of Pandits from Kashmir and the acceptance of Kashmir’s covert theocratic status by the ``secular`` Indian Union leave no chance for the small religious minority of the Pandits to have any political space in Kashmir.

K.N. Pandita, New York





Ignored

Sir, Farzana Versey’s letter Ominous Signs (June 20), made shocking reading for the hostile tone the writer adopted in it. No one is saying that Kashmir’s majority community is not dying from the militants’ bullets, but that cannot take away from the fact that the Pandits have suffered at the hands of the militants. That lakhs have fled Kashmir is a fact of life. That many of them are living in camps is also a fact. If the situation had been all right in the state, if the Pandits were not terrorised, if Kashmir was truly a paradise, they would not have left their homes. If the Hurriyat had been the conduit between Kashmir’s people and the governments of India and Pakistan, it would not have been scared to test the strength of its popularity through the ballot box. Let us also not glorify separatist elements like Yasin Malik, people who openly praise Pakistani ministers for running terrorist training camps. Jammu and Kashmir has a democratically elected government, something we are forgetting in all this media blitzkrieg about the Hurriyat’s visit to Pakistan. And it is also true that in our bid to make peace with Pakistan, in our attempt to build confidence building measures, we have forgotten about the Kashmiri Pandits.

Ananya Mahajan, Mahim, Mumbai



Sir, Farzana Versey makes the ridiculous claim in Ominous Signs (June 20) that the Kashmiri Pandits who fled their homeland under the threat of the gun are not refugees because ``they chose to leave.`` By that yardstick, since the Palestinians too ``chose to leave`` in the months before the creation of Israel in 1948, they cannot be classified as refugees.

Ramesh Kumar, Bangalore