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Hole walli Haveli

Fatimah Ihsan July 14, 2005

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#1 Posted by delhiwala on July 14, 2005 9:45:56 am
Interesting, is this fiction?
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#2 Posted by kaurasach on July 14, 2005 10:25:45 am
...he he...pretty good.
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#3 Posted by faizahussain on July 14, 2005 1:44:36 pm
Hello Fatima Sahiba
beautifully narrated...loved the simplicity of the language utilized. I won`t ask whether its based on reality or not...but you captured the essence of childish revenge mingled with innocence quite well...write more.

Faiza Hussain
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#4 Posted by temporal on July 14, 2005 2:28:13 pm
Fatimah:

...this is a repeat digression...mentioned it first on the saman thread...find longer stories straining on the monitor...khair...this yarn was entertaining...

....how did Manju the protagonist end up with Dadi?

...and found some of the dialogues a tad forced

baaqi sub khairiyat hay... ya ....thee...till Manju had to poop the party;)

lve

t
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#5 Posted by kaurasach on July 14, 2005 2:47:48 pm
``Manju `` - i thought was a girl name....as is Fatimah....

In the story Manju is a boy........so chances are that it is a nonautobiographical/fiction.

i`ve seen simmilar plots in artsy films where adlterers are discovered in compromising situations.....and Fatimah gave it a twist with dentures.
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#6 Posted by Quaidon on July 14, 2005 2:51:41 pm
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#7 Posted by miriamk on July 14, 2005 2:58:30 pm
fatimah:

dentures, a dead dadi, a precocious boy, nirvana, and some good old-fashioned adultery. just the pick me up i needed at the end of a long day. thank you fatimah for the inadvertent smiles.

could’ve used some trimming. just gentle pruning here and there. keep writing.

rgds
miriam
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#8 Posted by BeeJay on July 14, 2005 4:21:22 pm

Fatimah,

I find this story very sensitively written and touching! The closeness between the Dadi and the young character and the attempt by the young character to hang on to a bit of her Dadi (and associated memories) is heart-breaking, especially the part about carrying the dentures in a cookie jar. The greed and cruelty that extended family members sometimes display towards the vulnerable senior members of the household is legendary, and well-captured. And to top it off, the “little” revenge the 12-year old exacts from the aunt for the hurts her Dadi had received appears like a case of poetic justice!

In the part of India I’m from, that particular building prototype is quite frequent (in fact, the “aangan” being large enough to accommodate a whole Mango tree would not be unusual). Perhaps the reason could have been that it would provide a certain degree of experience of the outdoors (a virtual necessity for such mundane activities like hair-drying) to the ladies without a loss of privacy.

Note:
[How selfish I thought, to leave me here, so I could live my life only to wait for that one moment of truth called death.]
I must say that these are not the type of thoughts I would expect from a “routine” twelve-year old! And like T stated, that part about being left with a dying Dadi all alone appears kind of unrealistic.



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#9 Posted by subroto on July 14, 2005 8:23:57 pm
Finally from the i-log to the deserved spot on the front page. Loved it.
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#10 Posted by faizahussain on July 14, 2005 10:07:38 pm
Hello Fatima ji...one more thing..

so why does the kid call his uncle, mamo, considering that the ``mamo```s mother is the kid`s dadi? shouldnt the mamo`s mother be the kid`s nani...just asking...i thought the story was very beautifully written...had a hard time tyring to sort out the relationship though..or is there some sort of irony hidden in this?
Take care.

Faiza Hussain
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#11 Posted by BeeJay on July 15, 2005 3:02:22 am

#10 Faizahusain

Although I can not speak for Fatimah, and do not know the exact explanation for what you ask her, in many extended families, it is not unusual for senior family members to continue to be addressed (by the next generation) just as they were being addressed by the intermediate generation – i.e., the address becomes a label rather than reflect the actual relationship. Therefore, the grandchildren would address grandparents using the same terms as their own moms/dads did – this can start initially by emulation and then it stays on.

An interesting flip – in many Irish-American families here, we see spouses address each other as “mom/dad” just like their children address them!

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#12 Posted by shobig_sifar on July 15, 2005 3:56:38 am
hehe...interesting revenge...nicely done!
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#13 Posted by Nadia_Zehra on July 15, 2005 5:45:28 am
A good suave read in canvas of urbanity. And more interesting to read as told by Manju :-) and I have seen the picnic spots Paradise Inn and Hawks Bay recently so can rehearse the funny gnomes observed. As I told my mate that I would visit Gadani/HawksBay . She gazed at me and said..``Kali Ho Jayo gi?`` I said..Phir kiya Hua Abhi Konsi..? She said..Phir Bhi.. But the thought of `Fair n Lovely` as pointed by her didn`t came in my mind. May be these are objects of interest of teen inclusives though it is a cosmetically ineffective ointment.

Well the story seems to belonged to a middle classs family with pervertions in relationships because of heritage and its effects on kins specially kids.
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#14 Posted by bluegaze on July 15, 2005 11:18:34 am
Thank you all for the interacts. Perhaps, I can answer questions at a later point. Right now, i feel that it will define the story more or only serve to demystify certain complex cultural nuances.
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#15 Posted by ixno on July 15, 2005 2:52:05 pm
yes but i bet mumani jan had the last laugh - sicne the house was on her name
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#16 Posted by jawahara on July 15, 2005 8:25:07 pm
This was really quite lovely. Poignant and so well written.
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#17 Posted by twintopaz on July 16, 2005 11:03:39 pm
Fatimah..a very good read! very fluid lines

keep writing

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#18 Posted by Akka on July 19, 2005 8:35:25 am
good piece of writting
it has flow and elements which can hold on different audinec... but for me very specifically the lines which touched were:

“Death comes,” she said to me. “It comes, like the only moment of truth in your life and you have no way of fighting it, because you know that your time is up. You accept it because you have no choice.”.

a very beautiful acceptance of death, which i think lost somewhere but even these one line is carrying the criude reality which MAY be teh author reflect via crude dynamics of relations; could be very good mataphor;
If i may comment on this story then its about teh acceptance and living with death

only my perception not a judgement

take care all of you

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#19 Posted by ifti on July 19, 2005 6:55:26 pm
Hilarious :)

Thoroughly enjoyed this simple and mirthful story.

Thanks
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#20 Posted by learner on July 21, 2005 8:58:08 am
Oh God this was hilarious.. haha.. I bet Dadee chuckled from heaven puttin her dentures to good use.
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#21 Posted by lady_luck on July 22, 2005 2:31:17 pm
the very first piece i got to read at chowk.... very interesing and well written!
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#22 Posted by inpursuit on July 23, 2005 12:03:52 am
Interesting piece. Sorry, but I couldnt help but notice a few flaws. For example... how are dadi and chotte mamoo related to eachother? Initially it seems it should be chote chacha... and you have bungled on the title to be used for an uncle... Then some explanation comes by way of `chote mamoo moving in after the death of Manju`s father and his elder brother.` Of course dadi is alone so, your mother`s brother, your chote mamoo moves in with her, ostensibly to take care of her. But towards the end, the mumani refers to dadi as chote mamoo`s mother.
Hello Fatimah! Please give the story a stronger premise by redefining the relationships.
Tariq Siddiqi.

P.S. I enjoyed the climax, thoroughly. No puns intended.
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#23 Posted by inpursuit on August 1, 2005 11:50:04 pm
So I happened to read the explanations given to the wrong titles used in relationships now(BEEJAY, July 15)... so I am posting a fresh message. I agree such things do happen. Children address their great uncles as `uncles` etc... but unless such things are accompanied by explanations, they reduce the credibility of the story.
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#24 Posted by ashu.tosh on October 28, 2005 12:09:58 am
climax is outstanding!!!
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#25 Posted by ashu.tosh on October 28, 2005 12:10:26 am
climax is outstanding!!!
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#26 Posted by ashu.tosh on October 28, 2005 12:10:32 am
climax is outstanding!!!
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#27 Posted by Cigar on August 21, 2007 3:25:46 pm
It was a nice read, these maumanis should be taught a lesson :P

PS: After reading 75% of the story I came to know that narrator is a boy.
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    #27 Cigar
    #26 ashu.tosh
    #25 ashu.tosh
    #24 ashu.tosh
    #23 inpursuit
    #22 inpursuit
    #21 lady_luck
    #20 learner
    #19 ifti
    #18 Akka
    #17 twintopaz
    #16 jawahara
    #15 ixno
    #14 bluegaze
    #13 Nadia_Zehra
    #12 shobig_sifar
    #11 BeeJay
    #10 faizahussain
    #9 subroto
    #8 BeeJay
    #7 miriamk
    #6 Quaidon
    #5 kaurasach
    #4 temporal
    #3 faizahussain
    #2 kaurasach
    #1 delhiwala

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