Muslims Not Married in America

fazeel:

i have not read you article...justthe heading...Muslims Not Married in America... and am wondering

is there a hidden joke somewhere?

rgds

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Re: # 10

I guess the joke`s on future generations?

Some of our posters have hard time finding a date so they hang out at Shaadi.com( See posts below)
I mean have they closed nearby bars that you can’t hang out there and pick up a date? For those in DC, try the Georgetown mall. There is a great pick joint right there on the second floor and great margarita on top of that. Then again in Georgetown, there is Safeway, known as “social Safeway” another great pick up place.

Here are some definitions in this article that caught my eyes. I know some Indian would be in knots after reading the definition for Kafir….

“(1) Momin: Those who are the same outside as inside and follow a righteous path in life
(2) Kafir: They are the same inside and out, but don`t believe in living an honorable life, for example, based on the teachings of Islam. Good point is at least you know what you`re getting.
(3) Munafiq: They are different on the inside, from what they appear on the outside. Their major trait is lying. In the psychology of self-deception, they often believe they are good.”

I know Stuka does not believe in living an honorable life :)

Re: # 9

Most of my activist friends drink and can still have good conversations, specially in the day time. Getting a date is not a problem, it`s easy, as you said, in a bar, on dating websites, etc.

Depends on what one is looking for. I`m not looking for a date, which is a short-term type relationship. Marriage is a long-term type relationship

As for definitions... Even Iqbal says that even a person who calls himself `muslim` could have behavior which could be identified as `kafir`.

The definitions apply to all humans; muslims and non-muslims alike

stuka,

``Serendipity``...for real? LOL :-)

_Digit:

Abey I sympathize with this dude. I also had my share of tough times on Shaadi.com...The goddamned ABCD women are all looking for ``serendipity``...and the next chick who tells me that I will send her to fricking Sri Lanka..LOL!!

Re: # 7

There is a lot of confusion around. And a lot of folks don`t know what they want, except more money and more imitation of what`s on TV. What I want is better relationships near and far

hush,

Ahhh...and you must be the usual suspect.

I agree with ``hush``.I`m in Chennai on an office trip and i meet up with a kashmiri muslim friend living in chennai.Somehow the topic of astrology comes up.My friend gives me a tirade about how palm reading is forbidden in islam and he has consulted astrologers and is apparently quite well versed in it.Yet he quoted some scripture about fate and all that bulshit.I could only take so much of his tirade and asked him why bring Allah and islam into astrology and if he`s into it, just enjoy delving into the science and keep your religion out of it.Luckily we had plenty of booze to go around, so there was no dearth of topics to discuss and thankfully he didn`t go into a tirade about boozing and islam.This happens every time i meet him and the first time i met him was in his brother`s house in Pennsylvania.Interestingly, he is from kashmir, lives down south in Chennai, wouldn`t live anywhere else acc. to him , and is staunchly indian.To our pak friends, not all kashmiris think alike, it seems.There is a big group of kashmiri muslims who consider themselves indian.

Re: # 5

I have frequently had conversations with people who were high on marijuana or alchol. The next day, the meaninglessness of the conversation is evident.

As for religion, depends on how one defines himself. Based on how you identify yourself, you try to find a compatible partner. For example two people who enjoy drinking, might get along well and have a great time together

....okay...I think I get it now...author is actively looking but keeps getting rejected by our attractive and sophisticated American sistahs...certainly there are better ways to deal with rejection...

Re: # 3

There are millions of fish in the sea

Re: # 3
I agree :D

But brother..you shouldn`t make fun of your Brother fazeel. Allahhh will not be happy with you ;)

Jazakallah-khairun (or whatever ..)

Let me nip this in the bud.

This article is ridiculously over simplistic, patronizingly sermonizing and places disproportionate burden of maintaining the family on women.

Given the interaction style of many chowkies, I wouldn`t be surprised if the author is a munafiq (in the true sense of the word) trying to mock conservative Muslims living in the West... or to simply get a rise out of the usual suspects here. His mission will be accomplished, no doubt.

When it is said to them: ``Make not mischief on the earth,`` they say: ``Why, we only Want to make peace!`` Of a surety, they are the ones who make mischief, but they realise (it) not. (Quran 2:11-12)

Does the author realize the mischief he is engaging in?

But having said that, I must concur that arrogance and self-centeredness on the part of men or women plays a HUGE role in the increase in divorce among second generation-ers of any ethnicity.

What to do? The author has only provided us with his own brand of arrogance...not much in the way of a solution now, is it?

Re: General

* What is the purpose of an InterAct:
(1) In the writings classes, people provided feedback to the writer. The purpose was to assist each other in the development of better writing skills. The method was positive. This process is called to critique, which is different from plain criticism designed to make the writer wrong at any expense
(2) I am happy to respond to any specific questions, if it`s phrased in a way which would be educational for other readers also
(3) If some posts a personal attack. That`s off track. Don`t be a hater
(4) A civil and respectful dialogue can be mutually beneficial, if that goal is kept in mind in the course of the conversation... asking ``Where are we going with this``
(5) I can`t waste my time in trying to change the mind of stubborn person
(6) I don`t get any benefit from making you wrong, nor from ego centered arguments
(7) Let`s have positive interaction which results in a win / win situation

Re: # 2

Dude from Canada,

One could say that YOU are the one ``creating mischief``. You make some assumptions that I am against conservative Muslims. I am talking about muslims and non-muslims alike, we can all be mushrik, munafiq, momin, kafir, mohsin, etc.

If you`d like solutions, you could visit my website. I`m all about solutions. The main solution is pre-marital training as some Catholics do