Fazeel Chauhan June 28, 2005
#66 Posted by miriamk on June 30, 2005 7:25:16 pm
Beej:
#73
A total aside: I was not interacting on the Bunty aur Babli board but I did see your post re the refugees. Took me some time to go through the posts to understand what was going on. Hence the late answer which is a vehement NO! I do not subscribe to the narrow definition of conferring refugee status. I agree with anil et al.
#73
A total aside: I was not interacting on the Bunty aur Babli board but I did see your post re the refugees. Took me some time to go through the posts to understand what was going on. Hence the late answer which is a vehement NO! I do not subscribe to the narrow definition of conferring refugee status. I agree with anil et al.
#67 Posted by temporal on June 30, 2005 10:48:14 pm
miriam #65:
think universal yaar: it is about relationship between equals
if there are constraints -- religious or social or cultural than it is not a `stirve` on an even field...
just that!
lve
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think universal yaar: it is about relationship between equals
if there are constraints -- religious or social or cultural than it is not a `stirve` on an even field...
just that!
lve
t
#68 Posted by Soulat on June 30, 2005 11:46:34 pm
I never quite figured out why the sexual urge of men and women differ so
much. And I never have figured out the whole Venus and Mars thing. I have
never figured out why men think with their head and women with their heart.
FOR EXAMPLE: One evening last week, my girlfriend and I were getting into
bed.
Well, the passion starts to heat up, and she eventually says ``I don`t feel
like it, I just want you to hold me.``
I said ``WHAT??!! What was that?!``
So she says the words that every boyfriend on the planet dreads to hear...
``You`re just not in touch with my emotional needs as a woman enough for me
to satisfy your physical needs as a man.`` She responded to my puzzled look
by saying, ``Can`t you just love me for who I am and not what I do for you in
the bedroom?``
Realizing that nothing was going to happen that night, I went to sleep.
The very next day I opted to take the day off of work to spend time with
her. We went out to a nice lunch and then went shopping at a big, big
unnamed department store. I walked around with her while she tried on
several different very expensive outfits. She couldn`t decide which one to
take so I told her we`d just buy them all. She wanted new shoes to
compliment her new clothes, so I said lets get a pair for each outfit. We
went onto the jewelry department where she picked out a pair of diamond
earrings. Let me tell you...she was so excited. She must have thought I was
one wave short of a shipwreck. I started to think she was testing me because
she asked for a tennis bracelet when she doesn`t even know how to play
tennis. I think I threw her for a loop when I said, ``That`s fine, honey.``
She was almost nearing sexual satisfaction from all of the excitement.
Smiling with excited anticipation she finally said, ``I think this is all
dear, let`s go to the cashier.``
I could hardly contain myself when I blurted out, ``No honey, I don`t feel
like it.``
Her face just went completely blank as her jaw dropped with a baffled
WHAT?``
I then said ``honey! I just want you to HOLD this stuff for a while. You`re
just not in touch with my financial needs as a man enough for me to satisfy
your shopping needs as a woman.`` And just when she had this look like she
was going to kill me, I added, ``Why can`t you just love me for who I am and
not for the things I buy you?``
Apparently I`m not having sex tonight either.
#69 Posted by ShoreSahib on July 1, 2005 12:45:04 am
Re: # 68
Apparently not!!
With that remark, I`d be surprised if you`d get any for a very long time.
Yikes, man.
Maybe, ``You need to hold me`` is code for longer foreplay. Get the hint.
Apparently not!!
With that remark, I`d be surprised if you`d get any for a very long time.
Yikes, man.
Maybe, ``You need to hold me`` is code for longer foreplay. Get the hint.
#70 Posted by cayenne on July 1, 2005 1:20:19 am
Muslim women in islamic countries, oppressed and suppressed in their homes, once they get to the west get consumed by penis envy.They think and act like men, most of them become lesbians and become devious and sly like that `Alam` b*tch, `cause that`s how they think men are.These women are so stupid they creep me out.No wonder no muslim man wants to go near these trolls.
#71 Posted by Dash_Dot on July 1, 2005 1:21:12 am
#68 if it was a joke then 
but seriously man, you need to get a life and find out, if you a sentient being can waste some much of your time in thinking up this little revenge I wouldnt be surprised if even doormats rebel.
Somehow, my gut instinct tells me that this was all played out in your imagination whilst you lay in bed cursing your girl friend for the KLPD!

but seriously man, you need to get a life and find out, if you a sentient being can waste some much of your time in thinking up this little revenge I wouldnt be surprised if even doormats rebel.
Somehow, my gut instinct tells me that this was all played out in your imagination whilst you lay in bed cursing your girl friend for the KLPD!
#72 Posted by iron_mask on July 1, 2005 1:27:54 am
So which one is you,
A lawyer married a woman who had previously divorced ten husbands.
On their wedding night, she told her new husband, ``Please be gentle, I`m still a virgin.``
``What?`` said the puzzled groom.
``How can that be if you`ve been married ten times?``
``Well, Husband #1 was a sales representative: he kept telling me how great it was going to be.
Husband #2 was in software services: he was never really sure how it was supposed to function, but he said he`d look into it and get back to me.
Husband #3 was from field services: he said everything checked out diagnostically but he just couldn`t get the system up.
Husband #4 was in telemarketing: even though he knew he had the order, he didn`t know when he would be able to deliver.
Husband #5 was an engineer: he understood the basic process but wanted three years to research, implement, and design a new state-of-the-art method.
Husband #6 was from finance and administration: he thought he knew how, but he wasn`t sure whether it was his job or not.
Husband #7 was in marketing: although he had a nice product, he was never sure how to position it.
Husband #8 was a psychologist: all he ever did was talk about it.
Husband #9 was a gynecologist: all he did was look at it.
Husband #10 was a stamp collector: all he ever did was... God! I miss him! But now that I`ve married you, I`m really excited!``
``Good,`` said the new husband, ``but, why?``
``You`re a lawyer. This time I know I`m gonna get screwed!``
A lawyer married a woman who had previously divorced ten husbands.
On their wedding night, she told her new husband, ``Please be gentle, I`m still a virgin.``
``What?`` said the puzzled groom.
``How can that be if you`ve been married ten times?``
``Well, Husband #1 was a sales representative: he kept telling me how great it was going to be.
Husband #2 was in software services: he was never really sure how it was supposed to function, but he said he`d look into it and get back to me.
Husband #3 was from field services: he said everything checked out diagnostically but he just couldn`t get the system up.
Husband #4 was in telemarketing: even though he knew he had the order, he didn`t know when he would be able to deliver.
Husband #5 was an engineer: he understood the basic process but wanted three years to research, implement, and design a new state-of-the-art method.
Husband #6 was from finance and administration: he thought he knew how, but he wasn`t sure whether it was his job or not.
Husband #7 was in marketing: although he had a nice product, he was never sure how to position it.
Husband #8 was a psychologist: all he ever did was talk about it.
Husband #9 was a gynecologist: all he did was look at it.
Husband #10 was a stamp collector: all he ever did was... God! I miss him! But now that I`ve married you, I`m really excited!``
``Good,`` said the new husband, ``but, why?``
``You`re a lawyer. This time I know I`m gonna get screwed!``
#73 Posted by harish_hyd on July 1, 2005 1:28:40 am
# 68 by Soulat
LOL!! That was funny even if it wasn`t real.
LOL!! That was funny even if it wasn`t real.
#74 Posted by BeeJay on July 1, 2005 1:49:47 am
#66 MiriamK
Thanks, you have no idea how reassuring I find that you do not subscribe to the crap mentioned on that board. I am sorry about all the “unladylike” language (that you may have encountered) the janitor in me has been spewing all over the place. However, like all things in life (good and bad) this one shall pass, too! Someday perhaps, so shall the janitor! After his purpose is complete, or perhaps after His purpose is complete (I suppose there must be one (assuming there IS One, right?).) Again, sorry about my language!
#75 Posted by Netizen on July 1, 2005 8:17:54 am
Re: # 71
``Somehow, my gut instinct tells me that this was all played out in your imagination whilst you lay in bed cursing your girl friend for the KLPD!``
hahaha...
Its been a long time sinve I heard the word ``KLPD`` used in a sentence. By any chance are you from BITS, Pilani. I had few roommates from there, they used to use it often, along with ``basically``.
``Somehow, my gut instinct tells me that this was all played out in your imagination whilst you lay in bed cursing your girl friend for the KLPD!``
hahaha...
Its been a long time sinve I heard the word ``KLPD`` used in a sentence. By any chance are you from BITS, Pilani. I had few roommates from there, they used to use it often, along with ``basically``.
#76 Posted by BeeJay on July 1, 2005 9:44:25 am
#75 by Netizen
[…Its been a long time since I heard the word ``KLPD`` used in a sentence. By any chance are you from BITS, Pilani…..]
Where have you BEEN? KLPD is one of our ancient (most sacred) pearls of thought used extensively in all nooks and corners of the Indian subcontinent, in every university class-room and dorm, day and night, even bathrooms, in every position imaginable, since the early 1950’s. I personally think it was among the few worthwhile legacies the British left behind in the subcontinent, a perfect epitome of our various freedoms of choice, for all sexes! For the benefit of those individuals who are still unclear regarding what the initials KLPD stand for, I produce below my own understanding of it!
KLPD = Kanhaiya Laal Premi-chand Dukhiyare.
#77 Posted by qawali on July 1, 2005 11:38:59 pm
Re: # 19
chauhan saheb:
> This article is teeming with so many inaccuracies, stereotypes and blatant untruths about women that I don’t even know where to begin.
* Some specifics would be helpful, which statements?
> Well, after you’re done excoriating (read: cutting down) women, how about lending a hand to women who are managing a career, home, children, and unhelpful husbands. That may restore the faith of “high maintenance”, “trigger happy” women in desi men.
* My intention is to lend a helping hand to women. The issue is, the new working Muslim woman thinks she`s number one, and above the children, above the husband. And also her career is the number one priority, above the children, above the husband.
* If the woman assumes she`s number one, the only way a man can make a relationship ``work`` is if he blindly obeys her. And what does he get in return?
> Sir, ever dared to envision a partnership between a husband and wife? You know, where instead of the wife being an unwavering vassal, the husband is not only cognizant but God forbid supportive of his partner’s needs (both personal and professional). Neither party lives in servitude. Imagine that.
* If you read the article again, without presumptions, you will find that I`m hoping for the same: A successful, respectful partnership
>I think if the author were truly serious about engaging readers in “a deeper study of relationship issues” he would not have made such benighted remarks about women,
* Please help me out here, and list some specific examples so I could respond to them
> and as _digit says placed a “disproportionate burden of maintaining the family” on them.
* Around age 35, a woman usually has to decide:
Do I want to be a career woman, or a woman with a career?
* If she is a career woman, that is her number one priority, which is also above her family.
* A family woman`s number one priority is her family, above all else. Her children are number one, her husband is number two, and she`s number three. Similarly, for a mutually beneficial partnership, the man`s number one priority has to be his children, number two his wife, and number three himself.
* Simply put, it a modified model of the old give before you receive
> You have gone out of your way to unabashedly pander to the insecurities of desi men
* Sounds like you`re saying daysi men are insecure. No one`s perfect, so some daysi men would be insecure. I don`t understand what that has to do with the article?
chauhan saheb:
> This article is teeming with so many inaccuracies, stereotypes and blatant untruths about women that I don’t even know where to begin.
* Some specifics would be helpful, which statements?
> Well, after you’re done excoriating (read: cutting down) women, how about lending a hand to women who are managing a career, home, children, and unhelpful husbands. That may restore the faith of “high maintenance”, “trigger happy” women in desi men.
* My intention is to lend a helping hand to women. The issue is, the new working Muslim woman thinks she`s number one, and above the children, above the husband. And also her career is the number one priority, above the children, above the husband.
* If the woman assumes she`s number one, the only way a man can make a relationship ``work`` is if he blindly obeys her. And what does he get in return?
> Sir, ever dared to envision a partnership between a husband and wife? You know, where instead of the wife being an unwavering vassal, the husband is not only cognizant but God forbid supportive of his partner’s needs (both personal and professional). Neither party lives in servitude. Imagine that.
* If you read the article again, without presumptions, you will find that I`m hoping for the same: A successful, respectful partnership
>I think if the author were truly serious about engaging readers in “a deeper study of relationship issues” he would not have made such benighted remarks about women,
* Please help me out here, and list some specific examples so I could respond to them
> and as _digit says placed a “disproportionate burden of maintaining the family” on them.
* Around age 35, a woman usually has to decide:
Do I want to be a career woman, or a woman with a career?
* If she is a career woman, that is her number one priority, which is also above her family.
* A family woman`s number one priority is her family, above all else. Her children are number one, her husband is number two, and she`s number three. Similarly, for a mutually beneficial partnership, the man`s number one priority has to be his children, number two his wife, and number three himself.
* Simply put, it a modified model of the old give before you receive
> You have gone out of your way to unabashedly pander to the insecurities of desi men
* Sounds like you`re saying daysi men are insecure. No one`s perfect, so some daysi men would be insecure. I don`t understand what that has to do with the article?
#78 Posted by qawali on July 1, 2005 11:40:39 pm
Re: # 20
Babe, you have way too much time on your hands. Wish you all the best
Babe, you have way too much time on your hands. Wish you all the best
#79 Posted by qawali on July 1, 2005 11:42:47 pm
Re: # 22
: o )
I`m glad you were able to find the humor in that paragraph. Sometimes the situation is so bad, we have to laugh at it
: o )
I`m glad you were able to find the humor in that paragraph. Sometimes the situation is so bad, we have to laugh at it
#80 Posted by qawali on July 1, 2005 11:47:47 pm
Re: # 46
Very witty! a rare quality
: o )
You are indeed very funny. Thanks for making me laugh.
The truth is, no man worth his salt would become a domesticated pet. As Robert Bly says in his landmark book ``Iron John``...
There are three types of men:
1) The Savage man: Has no principles and boundaries
2) The Wild man: Follows principles and yet is free
3) The Domesticated Man: Weak on principles and not free, thus usually caged by a dominitrix
In New York, you can learn from my teacher:
http://higherpurpose.com
Very witty! a rare quality
: o )
You are indeed very funny. Thanks for making me laugh.
The truth is, no man worth his salt would become a domesticated pet. As Robert Bly says in his landmark book ``Iron John``...
There are three types of men:
1) The Savage man: Has no principles and boundaries
2) The Wild man: Follows principles and yet is free
3) The Domesticated Man: Weak on principles and not free, thus usually caged by a dominitrix
In New York, you can learn from my teacher:
http://higherpurpose.com
#81 Posted by qawali on July 1, 2005 11:52:12 pm
Re: # 23
> I`m simply seeking a like minded person...but in the end I would want one who, like myself, is willing to prioritize family above all else.
* This is one of my main points: What are the woman`s priorities shown in her behavior:
Herself as number one, or is it making money, or power at work via a career,
is it Money, Baby, Hubby?
> I`m simply seeking a like minded person...but in the end I would want one who, like myself, is willing to prioritize family above all else.
* This is one of my main points: What are the woman`s priorities shown in her behavior:
Herself as number one, or is it making money, or power at work via a career,
is it Money, Baby, Hubby?
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