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Re: # 220

[Salim’s posts are deleted but they never delete Khamkha or saminasha’s posts even though their posts are as disgusting as salim’s responses.]

soulat sahab...
first of all please note the correct spelling of my nick for future references, if any...

i am sorry to have been a cause of concern for you...please post the disgustingposts i seem to have used against salim or his family or any one else... that should have been deleted according to you...if you are concerned with the word ``bhaRva`` that i use to address salim is because of his ex-profession...you may not know but he was manager of a cat-house...please do not ask me what a cat-house is...knowing that you are an ex-naval officer...as for as baiting him...well! well!! would you like to see the posts wherein he has promised to fuck my mother, my non existant sister, my dead father, my dead-er grandfather, my non-existant brothers, my entire proud clan...i am sure being a fair man you never saw those postings...;)

tou janab! bismillah karen and post the lines that should have been deleted for being unparliamentary...good luck...;)

#214,
Mr. Temporal:
Your message was anticlimactic. The damage has been done. Sorry. I never meant any harm, but you have disappointed many today, and I don¡¦t mean by your silly article. When your opponent turns out to be the referee, it¡¦s time to get out of the ring. ƒº
Take care. You won¡¦t have to ban me anymore. And please don¡¦t ever mention credibility. Yahan ke chor heN Chowkidar.
Khuda Hafiz
Salim

#214,

thank you temporal. :)

#211:

you may have spoken too soon

wait till chowk staff clarifies

there is a line separating staff and volunteers

i have admittted in the past that i volunteer

:)

Re: # 215
lifes too short Temporal. You need to take it as it comes you win some and then you lose some.

Credibility should never be an issue on a site which is anonymous - by credibility I mean an individuals credentials. Here he or she stands by their writings. Here, Hamidm2 is just of the mark when he suggests that credibilityis attained only when some one can vouch for the exisistence of the individual as a real life person. If you want to do that the you need a mechanism which is not really a free for all, and have an authetication system which is foolproof. This would be similar to what you have with clubs, where blackballing is the order of the day. Then the charm of chowk disappears down the plug hole.

People take Chowk way too seriously IMHO.

(long post: sorry for this dealy)

Dost sahib #69:

The author too has, in some ways, contributed to this by bringing the credibility issue of an interactor.

am guilty as charged…but with this caveat…i was doing this with tahmed on THIS on the unplugged not here

...over the years one part of my record on chowk is open for public scrutiny…this multi-nick delusional psycho is the only one i have consistently singled out for his tactics to pick up fights with ladies…scout, succubus, huma mir, sobia, saminasha and others…do you see a pattern?…he initiates the fights and then whines, cries and vainly shifts the blame …also apparent …when men challenge he disappears fast…both kinds those who can sink low to his level ( e.g. atif2)….and those who stay above the fray (e.g. khamkhwa)

somebody has to expose him and his tactics…it is time we (men mainly) start standing up for blatant abuse of women at the least…you are right…this multi nick is not the first one here to abuse women interactors…others in the past have indulged in those sort of reprehensible activities hiding behind the safety of cyber anonymity (digression: even dr. sridhar’s use of “bitch” for another writer here should be condemned…has anyone of us done that yet? maybe someone did or maybe he retracted .. i have not visited that board for sometime...)…there were other women before sadna who just could not hack this and left…sadna, zahraj, saminasha, scout etc. are the fiery kind of new urbane educated no-nonsense women who have shown they can not only stand up to these delusional psycho misfits but can also go the distance toe to toe, deliver the knock out punch and brook no non-sense….more power to them…

fortunately or unfortunately i decided to step in and expose this con man for the charlaton he is…a bi-polar self deluding delusional psychotic poor excuse for a man…nay that would be insulting men…poor excuse for a (lesser) life form…and it has come to a point where the mere mention of credibility turns him into a mexican jumping bean…all those outlandish lies and statement he has made in the past have come home to roost…

and in more sense than one it is gratifying that this jehad is paying up…not only more and more folks are noticing the tactics of such dastardly men (and others: we are known by the company we keep))…they are rallying around us against this sort of cyber lynching

this story was written to channel discussions in another direction…but these threads have a life of their own

i understand how difficult it was for you to jump in here…appreciate that with thanks

rgds

t

#207, {``Salim heed stuka, and like Romair declare victory (which in this case for real) and move on. There will be other times to nail the coffin - dont waste all your nails.``}

Loha Bhai,
Aapko to sirf keeloN ki fikr he. :)

Thanks for the sound advice and moral support, mere fauladi dost.

Salim

Re: # 210 keelon ki fikr hahahaha till later. I like you always suspected that T bhai was part of CS, he has never confessed so on chowk so far.

Note:

Fair is foul, and foul is fair:

seems to the motto.

hamidm #201

I guess everything is fine and dandy on this side of the Atlantic. The news article reffered to an event that happened in England and BBC presented it in a TV documentary form.

I think what we all should do is dhaniya pee kar sau jaiN.

Re: # 209

urstruly,

...........so you admit `` everything is fine and dandy on this side of the Atlantic`` ?........ see, it wasn`t that difficult to admit the truth .......... as for the ``news article`` which `` reffered to an event that happened in England`` , are you sure it is true and not the product of a paranoid muslim`s fertile imagination ? ......... next time be careful - your credibility is at stake .......

......... talking about credibility, in my book people like dost-mittar, ferozk, manto, rozaiba, temporal, nazar h khan, stuka and others have credibilty because other people have met them and verified that, good, bad or indifferent, they exist and are more or less what they appear to be .......... i am sure all others are honorable folks too ...............

Re: # 213

Hamid

“ talking about credibility, in my book [these] people have credibilty because other people have met them and verified that, good, bad or indifferent, they exist and are more or less what they appear to be .”

So “meeting” a live person “good, bad or indifferent” constitutes “credibility”? You`ve got to be joking me! You mean to tell me that if you met Al Sharpton he’ll have more credibility than Ed Said whom you haven’t met? Or just the fact that you met Al he’s now “credible”?

C’mon, Hamid, you know better than that! If I didn’t know you any better and had not respected you, you would’ve lost all credibility in my eyes (and I haven’t even met you!)

Re: # 218

godot, iron-mask,

..... i stand corrected, ``credibility`` was probably the wrong word ........ maybe i should have used ``relative credibility`` in the context of the chowk ........ there is nothing wrong with an anonymous poster who is consistent and admits his/her mistakes when they are evident ....... but i am a little suspicious of folks who use multiple nicks to present different points of view (or push some nefarious agenda ) ........ for example, who are trmntr-x and ranger ?.......... and after you have interacted with somone for 5-6 years it is hard to maintain anonymity ........

...... as for ed said and al sharpton, in my view they are equally credible ....... actually al is incredible ! ........ but that is another discussion

Stuka #205, {``Salim Chauhan: word of advice...do the right thing and walk away from confrontation on this thread now. ``}

Stuka dost,
Thanks for the advice. Received, understood, and appreciated.
Somehow, the fight`s gone out of me. I am very very sad.

Mr. Temporal,
I apologize for any inconvenience that I may have caused you in my attempt at being humorous. I am really very disappointed as you can see in my post #206. I no longer feel enthusiastic about interacting on Chowk. And my motto is ``When it stops being fun, it`s time to move on...``

Thanks,

Please, kaha suna maaf.

Sincerely,
Salim

#204 Like I said, some people are into cyber S&M. Always on the look out for a CT. Salim heed stuka, and like Romair declare victory (which in this case for real) and move on. There will be other times to nail the coffin - dont waste all your nails.

Mr. Temporal,
In all seriousness, sir, I find your responses to Mr. Soulat revealing and, frankly, very disturbing. I appreciate your candor, but I share Mr. Soulat`s concern about the ethics involved. I have suspected all along that there was some ``inside track`` that allowed Saminasha, Scout, JG, Khamkhwa, Sobia, and a few others to get away with language that others have paid for with their ``lives.``

It is highly unfair for you to be partial in the on-going feuds, considering your own privileged status at Chowk.

Mr. Temporal, I am sad and very disappointed at this revelation from you. I have been around Chowk for over a year and this is the first time I have learned about your association with Chowk operations. All my suspicions have come true. All my concerns about justice, fairness, and even-handedness were justified.

I am not happy to have been proven right about this. No wonder, we Pakistanis don`t have any credibility when it comes to individual rights, common freedoms such as expression, religion, assembly, etc.

If you don`t see the ethics problem, then I can`t help you.

Shame on you and on the Junoons of Chowk for allowing this gross violation of your interactors` trust.

Khuda Hafiz
Salim

Man, what a storm in a tea cup over one story...why???

Salim Chauhan: word of advice...do the right thing and walk away from confrontation on this thread now.