Temporal August 29, 2005
#352 Posted by hamidm2 on September 1, 2005 8:02:56 am
Re: # 346
temp,
...... it seems you forgot to, ``never hold discussions with the monkey when the organ grinder is in the room`` .......... even though, in this case it is hard to separate the monkeys from the organ grinders (sometimes i too feel like having a banana) .....
............and he also said, ``he has all the virtues i dislike and none of the vices i admire`` - that might explain my aversion to urstruly
temp,
...... it seems you forgot to, ``never hold discussions with the monkey when the organ grinder is in the room`` .......... even though, in this case it is hard to separate the monkeys from the organ grinders (sometimes i too feel like having a banana) .....
............and he also said, ``he has all the virtues i dislike and none of the vices i admire`` - that might explain my aversion to urstruly
#345 Posted by Godot on September 1, 2005 7:20:29 am
Farzana –
You had to come here and stir the worms in the can!
My dear friend, you cannot take cheap shots at people, belittle them, or are Ms. Sanctimonious. That’s an art form and, frankly, you are not the type who can master it. Most importantly, to your detriment, you are not cut out to respond to a rock hurled your way with a brick.
So, grab a spicy bloody mary (or virgin mary, if you wish), sit back, put your feet on the ottoman, relax, read the posts on this board (the article is not worth wasting time), and enjoy. You maybe looking for trouble by participating, as if your hands aren’t full already!!!
#344 Posted by temporal on September 1, 2005 7:18:54 am
salim #261:
Your ability to balance between your partisan emotions during the
frequent altercations and your objective enforcement of Chowk
guidelines as Chowk ``volunteer,`` is admirable.
…you must have misunderstood…will give you the benefit of doubt…
khair…this is what i said publicly here last year… and reiterated
yesterday … that i volunteer for chowk…i refrained from mentioning in
what area…
but suffice it to say it is not enforcement area…more where my
interests lie….and where over the years it has been my pleasure to
have helped more people than have interacted on this board so
far…barring a few exceptions….anonymously
re: women i will disagree
this is what I wrote in #331: ...respecting another person
...specially a women is different and more of challenge...in a sense
we can also bring in an individual`s self-worth …if they are … secure
or insecure…after all in the desi mind-set women occupy the lowest
rung of the totem pole…
having quoted this…i also feel obligated to state that civility and
tolerance should be incumbent upon all who visit here (thank you and
godbless- n)
rgds
t
Your ability to balance between your partisan emotions during the
frequent altercations and your objective enforcement of Chowk
guidelines as Chowk ``volunteer,`` is admirable.
…you must have misunderstood…will give you the benefit of doubt…
khair…this is what i said publicly here last year… and reiterated
yesterday … that i volunteer for chowk…i refrained from mentioning in
what area…
but suffice it to say it is not enforcement area…more where my
interests lie….and where over the years it has been my pleasure to
have helped more people than have interacted on this board so
far…barring a few exceptions….anonymously
re: women i will disagree
this is what I wrote in #331: ...respecting another person
...specially a women is different and more of challenge...in a sense
we can also bring in an individual`s self-worth …if they are … secure
or insecure…after all in the desi mind-set women occupy the lowest
rung of the totem pole…
having quoted this…i also feel obligated to state that civility and
tolerance should be incumbent upon all who visit here (thank you and
godbless- n)
rgds
t
#341 Posted by hamidm2 on September 1, 2005 5:55:54 am
chowk staff .....
zindabad !
...... but you could have avoided all this unpleasentness if you had taken my suggestion and barred everyone who is under 17 years of age (except romair, who should be barred for life)
........ does this mean that i cannot hound urstruly, romair and ntsyed (echoboom seems to be on an extended vacation in the caribbean or somalia or afghanistan ) ? ....... if that is the case, then i am afraid i will have to find another vocation ..............
fv,
..... i was relieved when urstruly didn`t show up - i don`t think i could have continued to abuse him once i looked the devil in the eye ............
zindabad !
...... but you could have avoided all this unpleasentness if you had taken my suggestion and barred everyone who is under 17 years of age (except romair, who should be barred for life)
........ does this mean that i cannot hound urstruly, romair and ntsyed (echoboom seems to be on an extended vacation in the caribbean or somalia or afghanistan ) ? ....... if that is the case, then i am afraid i will have to find another vocation ..............
fv,
..... i was relieved when urstruly didn`t show up - i don`t think i could have continued to abuse him once i looked the devil in the eye ............
#339 Posted by omar_r_quraishi on September 1, 2005 5:16:49 am
oh how sweet -- chowk staff is apologizing to farzana versey -- btw chowk-staff, what brought about this change of heart and this realization of so many things done wrong in the past ???
farzana, i wonder whether your visiting card actually says `chowk columnist` ? you dont really have to answer that by the way
farzana, i wonder whether your visiting card actually says `chowk columnist` ? you dont really have to answer that by the way
#340 Posted by iron_mask on September 1, 2005 5:25:55 am
Re: # 339 she is the bg cheez or is naa-cheez around these parts!
#338 Posted by Montag on September 1, 2005 4:13:24 am
Why Temporal is posting with multiple nick? He is writing as Chowk staff now. What a joke.
#337 Posted by chowkstaff on September 1, 2005 1:48:44 am
# 336 continued ...
This is to clarify that ``soulat`` was indeed a pseudonym (user id/nick) used by an existing member of Chowk and has therefore been removed. But none of the ids in question have anything to do with Farzana Versey.
This is to clarify that ``soulat`` was indeed a pseudonym (user id/nick) used by an existing member of Chowk and has therefore been removed. But none of the ids in question have anything to do with Farzana Versey.
#336 Posted by chowkstaff on September 1, 2005 1:42:17 am
Re #314 by tddysam on August 31, 2005 12:45pm PT
[On the subject of multi-nicks, methinks Soulat is none other than Farzana Versey]
tddysam,
If you want to volunteer information please do so about yourself. There is no need to imply false and baseless speculation about others.
Farzana Versey is columnist and regular participant on Chowk and as she states below she has never used covers of pseudonyms to write here.
--
To Farzana,
Please accept my public apologies for this and several other personal attacks you have suffered on Chowk. There were occasions where chowk-staff could have and probably should have (debatable) stepped in to moderate.
Sincerely
[On the subject of multi-nicks, methinks Soulat is none other than Farzana Versey]
tddysam,
If you want to volunteer information please do so about yourself. There is no need to imply false and baseless speculation about others.
Farzana Versey is columnist and regular participant on Chowk and as she states below she has never used covers of pseudonyms to write here.
--
To Farzana,
Please accept my public apologies for this and several other personal attacks you have suffered on Chowk. There were occasions where chowk-staff could have and probably should have (debatable) stepped in to moderate.
Sincerely
#335 Posted by FarzanaVersey on September 1, 2005 12:12:23 am
(Sorry about this digression -- indeed!)
Chowk Staff:
I thought I would desist, but I am afraid silence will be misconstrued in a context that has to do with my identity on Chowk.
Since you decided to jump into the fray and monitor this board, and are even accepting offers for Baskin Robbins, you ought to display some respect for writers who choose to maintain their distance from this sort of slugfest. By giving me a column and publishing me on a regular basis, you are certainly not to be held responsible for my opinions (which in all probability are not in consonance with yours), but you DO have to stand up for unprovoked slurs, especially since you know the truth.
I am referring to the post #314 by tddysam on August 31, 2005 12:45pm PT
[Re: # 313
On the subject of multi-nicks, methinks Soulat is none other than Farzana Versey.]
You know this is not true, and you let a person whose credentials are suspect get away with it.
tddysam
Registered Dec 6 2004
And yet her/his first post appears on April 7, 2005. Do you realise this could be someone with a multiple nick?
If the person Soulat seems to have made me into an example, then 1)it is not my problem; 2)why does it bother people so when they are openly getting cute on their Bhais/bhabhis/behens here?
For you this may appear to be a minor problem, but I do not take kindly to this at all as it would have been very convenient (and even prudent) for me to get a nice nick for myself to defend myself, which I know I have to do pretty much on my own and do so the way I know best -- without resorting to the abuses similar to the ones hurled at me.
However, in the recent past, there have been people who have made a huge noise about my `fans`, `admirers` who, invariably, according to them are of `dubious character`. I deal with people on the basis of what they say about my writing, and not whether they are going to stand by me in my moment of crisis.
And I anyway do not understand how and why you permit this consistent use of a person`s name on boards when she does not even make an appearance. It may give people a kick to become a metaphor, but I`d much rather be what I am. You seem to have this great maternal/paternal concern for all that goes on in UP, but the stalking on FP is far worse because some of us want to engage in a dialogue on a subject that may have to do with an important issue. Surely you are aware it takes more effort to write about these than post on boards that talk about catfights?
I am also surprised that you permitted this board to take the shape it did -- the digressions are not in the same league as Jinnah revived or Kashmir revisited. This constant battle among certain individuals has always been simmering, but of late it has been exported to these boards. Whenever there has been even a feeble attempt on any of my boards, I have stalled it. It is the job of the writer to do so, even at the risk of losing a few enemies which everyone around seems to love so dearly. This pathetic thing happened on the Zafar Anjum board; those of us who did have things to say had to refrain. I certainly do not wish to be made a part of such empty wars or partake of their spoils.
And while we are on the subject of multiple nicks, the ones that create a `havoc` are easily recognisable. I wish to draw your attention (oh, but you already know that!) to the use of more than one nick by the nice folks. Ask your volunteers; they might know who these people are. They may not have nuisance value (debatable point), but I hope you apply the standards you are striving to apply across the board.
I try to give you feedback, more often at times when I am not the `aggrieved party` (have never asked for anyone to be banned and, to the chagrin of several folks here, never threatened to leave!) because of only one reason -- I need to respect the space I occupy. I expect some reciprocation for that. There are several other points which I shall put up in my personal space later...
If you do read this, I can only hope it did not take too much time and your ice-cream has not melted.
Regards,
Farzana
- - -
Hamidm:
I would like to remind you that it was I who had suggested quite some time ago that it was my dream for a double date with you and urstruly; he had accepted it. You maintained silence. Now it seems clear where your preferences lie:) It is a pity I cannot use the term `green with envy` lest I be deported to S.Arabia...
Chowk Staff:
I thought I would desist, but I am afraid silence will be misconstrued in a context that has to do with my identity on Chowk.
Since you decided to jump into the fray and monitor this board, and are even accepting offers for Baskin Robbins, you ought to display some respect for writers who choose to maintain their distance from this sort of slugfest. By giving me a column and publishing me on a regular basis, you are certainly not to be held responsible for my opinions (which in all probability are not in consonance with yours), but you DO have to stand up for unprovoked slurs, especially since you know the truth.
I am referring to the post #314 by tddysam on August 31, 2005 12:45pm PT
[Re: # 313
On the subject of multi-nicks, methinks Soulat is none other than Farzana Versey.]
You know this is not true, and you let a person whose credentials are suspect get away with it.
tddysam
Registered Dec 6 2004
And yet her/his first post appears on April 7, 2005. Do you realise this could be someone with a multiple nick?
If the person Soulat seems to have made me into an example, then 1)it is not my problem; 2)why does it bother people so when they are openly getting cute on their Bhais/bhabhis/behens here?
For you this may appear to be a minor problem, but I do not take kindly to this at all as it would have been very convenient (and even prudent) for me to get a nice nick for myself to defend myself, which I know I have to do pretty much on my own and do so the way I know best -- without resorting to the abuses similar to the ones hurled at me.
However, in the recent past, there have been people who have made a huge noise about my `fans`, `admirers` who, invariably, according to them are of `dubious character`. I deal with people on the basis of what they say about my writing, and not whether they are going to stand by me in my moment of crisis.
And I anyway do not understand how and why you permit this consistent use of a person`s name on boards when she does not even make an appearance. It may give people a kick to become a metaphor, but I`d much rather be what I am. You seem to have this great maternal/paternal concern for all that goes on in UP, but the stalking on FP is far worse because some of us want to engage in a dialogue on a subject that may have to do with an important issue. Surely you are aware it takes more effort to write about these than post on boards that talk about catfights?
I am also surprised that you permitted this board to take the shape it did -- the digressions are not in the same league as Jinnah revived or Kashmir revisited. This constant battle among certain individuals has always been simmering, but of late it has been exported to these boards. Whenever there has been even a feeble attempt on any of my boards, I have stalled it. It is the job of the writer to do so, even at the risk of losing a few enemies which everyone around seems to love so dearly. This pathetic thing happened on the Zafar Anjum board; those of us who did have things to say had to refrain. I certainly do not wish to be made a part of such empty wars or partake of their spoils.
And while we are on the subject of multiple nicks, the ones that create a `havoc` are easily recognisable. I wish to draw your attention (oh, but you already know that!) to the use of more than one nick by the nice folks. Ask your volunteers; they might know who these people are. They may not have nuisance value (debatable point), but I hope you apply the standards you are striving to apply across the board.
I try to give you feedback, more often at times when I am not the `aggrieved party` (have never asked for anyone to be banned and, to the chagrin of several folks here, never threatened to leave!) because of only one reason -- I need to respect the space I occupy. I expect some reciprocation for that. There are several other points which I shall put up in my personal space later...
If you do read this, I can only hope it did not take too much time and your ice-cream has not melted.
Regards,
Farzana
- - -
Hamidm:
I would like to remind you that it was I who had suggested quite some time ago that it was my dream for a double date with you and urstruly; he had accepted it. You maintained silence. Now it seems clear where your preferences lie:) It is a pity I cannot use the term `green with envy` lest I be deported to S.Arabia...
#379 Posted by yogiraj on September 1, 2005 12:20:41 pm
Re: # 335
FV
One of the few who openly admits to be a bigot. Call me Balasaheb`s stoog!!!
I profusely appologise for all personal comments I made against you. There was/is no excuse. No way to express it other wise. Also meant for Tahmed123
I never liked, people who say some else (including your ``own`` govt) should do this but never ``OWN`` the problem of theirs. I believe if there is a problem I face, it is mine. I always thought you are one of those who blame others, but do nothing to sort your ``own`` issues.
But personal insults are not what should be the right (write??) way to go. I agree, therefore am contrite.
As as a parting shot(!!!) I will ask a question again.
Few hundred years ago a woman was ``Owning`` a business. She was a widow, and god had not perfected what he wanted asses like me should do. So she ``could`` hire a ``Man``. She did.
Happy with the situation, she married him. Was a good couple, if we believe in history.
Until. (hate you Hamidm 2000/3000/40000!)
Then.. (You rot in hell Hamid because you invented dots!! )
No woman can drive a camel anymore in the same place.
What happenned?
God?
Phrophet??
Cave???
Islam????
Muslims?????
I leave it to you to ponder. NO answer required. Such a foolish question does not need one.
Chowk staff
Please Cancel my nick. I have NONE other than this one. If I can do it on my own (cancellation), help me in knowing how to do it. I DO thank thee for wonderful site and perhaps the most imaginitive and foresighted way you led way above others. Particularly in cyberspace.
I am, perhaps too idiot to have stupid questions in my mind. Look at the one I asked in this interact!!! So Bye
Yogiraj Patil
FV
One of the few who openly admits to be a bigot. Call me Balasaheb`s stoog!!!
I profusely appologise for all personal comments I made against you. There was/is no excuse. No way to express it other wise. Also meant for Tahmed123
I never liked, people who say some else (including your ``own`` govt) should do this but never ``OWN`` the problem of theirs. I believe if there is a problem I face, it is mine. I always thought you are one of those who blame others, but do nothing to sort your ``own`` issues.
But personal insults are not what should be the right (write??) way to go. I agree, therefore am contrite.
As as a parting shot(!!!) I will ask a question again.
Few hundred years ago a woman was ``Owning`` a business. She was a widow, and god had not perfected what he wanted asses like me should do. So she ``could`` hire a ``Man``. She did.
Happy with the situation, she married him. Was a good couple, if we believe in history.
Until. (hate you Hamidm 2000/3000/40000!)
Then.. (You rot in hell Hamid because you invented dots!! )
No woman can drive a camel anymore in the same place.
What happenned?
God?
Phrophet??
Cave???
Islam????
Muslims?????
I leave it to you to ponder. NO answer required. Such a foolish question does not need one.
Chowk staff
Please Cancel my nick. I have NONE other than this one. If I can do it on my own (cancellation), help me in knowing how to do it. I DO thank thee for wonderful site and perhaps the most imaginitive and foresighted way you led way above others. Particularly in cyberspace.
I am, perhaps too idiot to have stupid questions in my mind. Look at the one I asked in this interact!!! So Bye
Yogiraj Patil
#332 Posted by BeeJay on August 31, 2005 7:07:26 pm
Re#331
T,
I smell the coffee!
(i.e., you are right!)
Sincerely,
BeeJay.
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