S F Hasnat July 4, 2005
#5 Posted by stuka on July 4, 2005 8:28:01 am
``His declared intention is to resolve the main dispute of Kashmir, during his tenure in office. ``
Best way for him to say that he wants to remain in office till the end of his days. :)
Best way for him to say that he wants to remain in office till the end of his days. :)
#4 Posted by arjun_m on July 4, 2005 8:06:14 am
For more than one and a half years, General Musharraf has been bending backwards to accommodate the Indian leaders.
It`s called waking up and smelling the coffee....If you need to bend over backwards to see the reality that India isn`t about to give up Indian Kashmir and everything you`ve tried so far has failed, you have bigger problems...
The critics of Musharraf’s policy of reconciliation towards India argue that although he presented many concessions, one after another, he got little in return.
a concession would be giving up something he had, not giving up something he`s always lusted for....It`s not a concession when you decide to finally come around and accept the reality..
As a result of these developments, the tensions between the two countries eased out, but so far no substantial progress has been made, either on “minor” issues or on Kashmir itself.
``progress`` is usually pakispeak for handing over land...ain`t gonna happen...deal with it..
After all it marginalized Pakistan’s position and the circumstances are moving fast towards the conception of an independent Kashmir.
independent Kashmir only if you`re willing to make Azad Kashmir an independent country....if you think Indian Kashmir is going to break away from India any time soon, you`re somking something...
At the same moment, as a result of the Jahidi fallout, the Pakistani society suffered tremendously, in the shape of rising militancy and violence.
A strategy that will go down in history as suicide by a thousand self-inflicted wounds...
where even the meaning of freedom has to be rewritten.
It might be re-written as India keeping Indian Kashmir and fairly open borders for Kashmiris to travel back and forth...that`s the extent of it...
#3 Posted by Kamath on July 4, 2005 6:42:34 am
Hasnat Sahib:
You say,``..For more than one and a half years, General Musharraf has been bending backwards to accommodate the Indian leaders....``
Don`t you think time has come that the commando General and his coterie bend forward on their knees to Indians? They may get something in return this time.
Peace.
You say,``..For more than one and a half years, General Musharraf has been bending backwards to accommodate the Indian leaders....``
Don`t you think time has come that the commando General and his coterie bend forward on their knees to Indians? They may get something in return this time.
Peace.
#2 Posted by ballukhan on July 4, 2005 5:18:21 am
So finally these ISI agents could pay respects to their masters...........de-briefed their handlers..............negotiated their raise..........and are now back for some more action............and imagine they want to represent Kashmiris without contesting the elections???
#1 Posted by harish_hyd on July 4, 2005 3:23:06 am
For more than one and a half years, General Musharraf has been bending backwards to accommodate the Indian leaders.
How? Have terrorist attacks in J&K stopped? No. Have they reduced? Yes, but that is more due to the fence and less due to Pakistan’s commitment that it wouldn’t allow its soil to be used to mount attacks on India. All the other gestures, such as allowing the Srinagar-Muzaffarabad bus have been purely PR exercises to win international acclaim and nothing more.
The General refutes these allegations and says that his proposals do not negate the principled stance of Pakistan.
And the ‘principled’ stance of Pakistan is what? That Kashmir is the jugular vein of Pakistan. So how is Mushy “bending over backwards to accommodate Indian leaders”?
Mirwaiz, on his return to Srinagar, wrote an article in the Hindustan Times, saying that it will not be acceptable to split Kashmir on the basis of “religion, ethnic or regional divisions”.
Where was this gentleman when Kashmiri Pandits were being hounded out of their homes? When mosque loudspeakers were blaring threats to the Pandits, asking them to leave the valley, but without their wives and daughters? What moral right does he have to speak on their behalf?
[More than 80,000 Kashmiri lives have been lost and countless women raped, since the 1989 home grown revolt against the 700,000-strong Indian forces, but these gross human rights violations remained part of the bilateral dispute.]
Just where do Pakis get their figures from? India’s Army is 1.2 million strong. If 700,000 of them are in Kashmir, does it mean that only 500,000 of them are there to defend the entire India-China border in case of a Chinese attack? Which world do you guys live in?
With due respect to the writer’s opinions, I feel there is no way Kashmiris are going to get independence. There is only one way out for both the Kashmiris and Pakis, and that is the LoC as the IB. Anyone who thinks otherwise is only living in a fool’s paradise. Period.
How? Have terrorist attacks in J&K stopped? No. Have they reduced? Yes, but that is more due to the fence and less due to Pakistan’s commitment that it wouldn’t allow its soil to be used to mount attacks on India. All the other gestures, such as allowing the Srinagar-Muzaffarabad bus have been purely PR exercises to win international acclaim and nothing more.
The General refutes these allegations and says that his proposals do not negate the principled stance of Pakistan.
And the ‘principled’ stance of Pakistan is what? That Kashmir is the jugular vein of Pakistan. So how is Mushy “bending over backwards to accommodate Indian leaders”?
Mirwaiz, on his return to Srinagar, wrote an article in the Hindustan Times, saying that it will not be acceptable to split Kashmir on the basis of “religion, ethnic or regional divisions”.
Where was this gentleman when Kashmiri Pandits were being hounded out of their homes? When mosque loudspeakers were blaring threats to the Pandits, asking them to leave the valley, but without their wives and daughters? What moral right does he have to speak on their behalf?
[More than 80,000 Kashmiri lives have been lost and countless women raped, since the 1989 home grown revolt against the 700,000-strong Indian forces, but these gross human rights violations remained part of the bilateral dispute.]
Just where do Pakis get their figures from? India’s Army is 1.2 million strong. If 700,000 of them are in Kashmir, does it mean that only 500,000 of them are there to defend the entire India-China border in case of a Chinese attack? Which world do you guys live in?
With due respect to the writer’s opinions, I feel there is no way Kashmiris are going to get independence. There is only one way out for both the Kashmiris and Pakis, and that is the LoC as the IB. Anyone who thinks otherwise is only living in a fool’s paradise. Period.
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