A Changed Landscape of Kashmir Conflict

There should be no doubt in anyone`s mind that Kashmir is a dispute. Without its resolution, there can be no peace between India and Pakistan. The resolution of Kashmir will definitely bring about numerous economic benefits to both countries, thereby improving the lives of the common man in Pakistan, India and Kashmir.

In my opinion, the solution to this dispute lies in an environment of interdependence between Pakistan and India. Both nations have a lot to offer to each other when it comes to trade. An increase in trade should result in improved economic relations. Eventually, a time will come when both countries will actually protect each other for the sake of continuing economic benefit to both countries. At this point in time, Kashmir as a whole should be given joint protection by the two countries. The state of Kashmir (Azad as well as J&K) should be provided a framework whereby Kashmir would function as a separate state. However, there should be some adjustments with regards to water supplies and things of that nature for both countries.

This is not a definitive solution by any means. However, it highlights the elements required for a long lasting solution. Without a win-win situation for Pakistanis, Indians and Kashmiris, there cannot be a resolution. It requires courageous leadership from Pakistan, India and the Kashmiri politicians to come together and show flexibility in giving the common people of all three nations what they deserve - lasting peace and its consequent benefits.

Mike,

Have you seen the news articles in the past 2 years? Every couple of months, the Delhi police is breaking up a jehadi cell in Delhi and killing LeT or JeM jihadies. In one case, the jehadies were planning to blow up the IMA in Dehradun. We have been lucky that we have not witnessed an incident in North India of major proportions.

In each of these cases, the jehadies had local help. Yes, your very own Indian muslims whom you consider as ``our people``. These are a bunch of rattlesnakes who already bit us in 1947 when they championed the creation of Pakistan. They have been quiet for a while, since their numbers went down after partition. However, if you think they consider themselves as Indians, you are fooling yourself. Even if it were true, the real question is that as Hindus, why should we allow muslims to live with us? Why should we allow a community that hates us and divided our land to live among us? Why do we need them and why do we need to give them equality?

Ranjit ...okay , forget the part about `our people` ...but your idea of holding Indian muslims as `hostages` to scare the Pakis is silly. First of all Pakis couldn`t give a flying f about Indian muslims , they would only laugh inside at our stupidity and cry crocodile tears , and the international community would condemn India as a nazi-like state. Indian muslims can be controlled by using the force of the state..silently but effectively.

But I am in full favor of Kashmiri muslims being killed and their women raped. More the merrier.

Mike, Ranjit:

Abey, did u two Chutiyas attend Sachdeva New PT College to get a Diploma in Chutyapa? Just Curious!!!

Wasiey, idiots like Mike and Ranjit sit in front of a computer and salivate over killing people as if it is playing kanchey...have u even stabbed or bashed someone with a hockey stick?

Or are you idiots mirror images of the Pakistani elite that created a Jehadi culture for the poor while sitting in air-conditioned comfort of the Defence club themselves?

#9 by hassansiddiqi on July 4, 2005 2:01pm PT


There should be no doubt in anyone`s mind that Kashmir is a dispute.


And there should be no doubt in YOUR mind that India isn`t going to agree to a change in boundaries any time soon...


Without its resolution, there can be no peace between India and Pakistan.


What makes you think the resolution will be to your liking?


In my opinion, the solution to this dispute lies in an environment of interdependence between Pakistan and India. Both nations have a lot to offer to each other when it comes to trade. An increase in trade should result in improved economic relations.


Your government begs to differ...They`re saying ``Trade with India linked to Kashmir solution`` i.e. hand over Kashmir in a platter and we`ll be generous enough to give you access to our market(which is worth a 10th of the whole Indian market)...

Maybe they should link an internet connection to India to the resolution of the Kashmir dispute..


However, there should be some adjustments with regards to water supplies and things of that nature for both countries.


That`s what this is about, isn`t it? The water?



Without a win-win situation for Pakistanis, Indians and Kashmiris, there cannot be a resolution.


Sheesh...if there WAS a win-win, don`t you think someone would have thought of it by now?

Re:stuka

Keeping aside foul language, how about debating the facts? Every day in Kashmir, 10-15 people get killed. Recently school children were killed in a bomb blast. This is in spite of starting the bus service to Muzaffarabad, allowing the APHC leaders to visit Pakistan, having free and fair elections to let Kashmiris elect their own government and pouring billions of dollars in aid. On top of it hindus have been ethnically cleansed from Kashmir valley, pretty much in the same way your family got ethnically cleansed from Punjab in 1947.

How long are we going to wallow in our impotence? Should we keep on ``negotiating`` while giving a daily human sacrifice of 10-15 people to the God of Islam? When do we say, enough is enough? What is wrong in using the river waters to blackmail Pakistan into submission? Pakistan`s soft spot is Islam. Why not use the Kashmiri and Indian muslims as a hostage to blackmail them into giving up Kashmir?

#15

Actually I have a better idea, lets use your family as a hostage and then we will ask Togadia to migrate to Saudia.

what say, deal?

#16 bongdongs

Actually you should watch out for your family, as West Bengal becomes a muslim majority state thanks to the commies that you keep electing there mindlessly. Your family may end up taking refuge in Bihar as a muslim west bengal kicks them out.

Exactly..stupid bongs have no idea what they are in for. Muslims already constitute 60-70% of the population of 3-4 districts in West Bengal.

Re:#16 bongdongs

If you think the islamization of West Bengal is far-fetched, go and talk to some bongs in C.R. Park in Delhi. They are all descendents of refugees in 1947. They will tell you what their parents and grand-parents faced in East Bengal in 1947 in places like Noakhali or how Suhrawardy encourage hindu massacares in Calcutta. As you mindlessly convert West Bengal to a muslim majority state, your only choice may be to get converted as well.

#15

And going by the standards of your ilk, your ``hostage`` or ``target`` will be the poorest and weakest person you can find, a powerloom operator in Bhiwandi maybe.

Lets see you take on Dawood`s patrons in Maharashtra goverment like the infamous Chagan Bhujbal then it will be worthy of admiration.

Ranjit:

I have no problem debating the ``facts``. My problem is with the screwed up Naziesque solutions you come up with.

#15 by ranjit on July 4, 2005 3:38pm PT


Keeping aside foul language, how about debating the facts? Every day in Kashmir, 10-15 people get killed. Recently school children were killed in a bomb blast.


Umm....most of the people and children killed are muslim...(if not all)..

Re:stuka#21

The solutions are Naziesque because the problem is Naziesque. How do you deal with a religion that actively propagates hatred against you and that religion provides the central and only source of wisdom for its followers? We hindus keep deluding ourselves that Islam is just like any other religion and muslims are basically all ``misunderstood``, ``discrimnated`` people who are yearning for freedom. That is patently false, given that muslims ruled the subcontinent for hundreds of years and then partitioned it themselves at a huge human cost. Even after that for 60 years, we have faced non-stop hostility, terrorism in Punjab, terrorism in Kashmir, you name it. Within Pakistan, there is no trace of democracy or freedom.

We hindus have tried to play nice for centuries, created a secular system, given immense liberties to Kashmir and have repeatedly tried to make peace and reach an understanding. Still, you see non-stop violence, non-stop jihad and a relentless demand for more territory. When do you admit that the opposition is a fascistic force hell bent on our eventual destruction? If we dont recognize the problem, we can never solve it.

#23 by ranjit on July 4, 2005 4:48pm PT

You`ve got how many people that agree with your point of view...11? The last time I checked, India was a democracy....So just as Indian Kashmir stays with India as long as a majority of Indians say it does, your solutions are just your solutions as long as a majority of people don`t agree with you...good luck trying to convince them...i suspect the pakis have a better chance of concinving a majority of Indians to hand over Indian Kashmir than you do of convincing a majority of people to go along with your solution.......