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Hazrat Sarmad Shaheed: The Naked Sufi Martyr

Asif Naqshbandi July 13, 2005

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#84 Posted by khamkhwa. on July 16, 2005 9:41:25 am
naqshbandi....
still waiting for your source of zulaykha seeing in hazrat yusuf the manifestation of god...
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#85 Posted by Naqshbandi on July 16, 2005 9:59:38 am
Re: # 84

i refer you to Hazrat Abdur Rahman Jami`s Farsi masterpiece, Yusuf-o-Zuleykha. An English translation is available...

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#86 Posted by khamkhwa. on July 16, 2005 10:36:54 am
Re: # 85
...let`s discuss it from quranic verses...i think what you wrote is outright `shirk`...unless you can prove your contention from quran alone...
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#81 Posted by Naqshbandi on July 16, 2005 4:55:11 am
in reply to sattar:

Bashir Ahmad, the son of Mirza Ghulam, wrote in his biography:

``My mother informed me that `the first attack of looseness of bowels upon the Promised Messiah occurred when he was at his dining room table. Later, I started pressing his legs and he lay in comfort and slept and soon I too slept. After a short while, he again felt the call of nature and he used the bathroom a couple of times without awakening me, After this he felt very weak; he shook me up and laid down on my bed. I recommenced pressing. In a few minutes he told me to go to bed but I refused and continued to press. Once again he had an urge and, being too weak to go to the lavatory, I made arrangement for him close to the bed. He sat down and relieved himself. Next, he laid himself back on my bed and I started pressing again. His weakness grew intense; he had another motion, accompanied this time by vomiting. This paralyzed him so much that when trying to lay back on the bed, he fell on his back and hit his head on the bed post. His condition alarmed me...`.``
(Roohany Khazaen, Vol. 1, P. 11-12; Sirat-ul-Mehdi, P.109)

Mirza Ghulam`s father in law, Mir Nasir Nawab, recorded in his autobiography:

``The night his holiness fell ill, I was sleeping in my room. When his illness grew severe, they woke me up. I went over to his holiness and found him in great pain. He addressed me saying: `I have been stricken with cholera.` After this, he did not utter a single intelligible and coherent word till he died on Monday, after ten O`clock in the morning.``
(Hayat-i-Nasir, P. 14)

Mirza Ghulam used to say that cholera or plague is the sign of Allah(SWT)`s wrath on mankind for their wrong doing! It is fitting that his last words were the admission that he had been stricken with the disease he was so fearful of. The witnesses present at his bed side recorded:

``Huzoor (Mirza Ghulam) could not talk two hours before death. Dr. Mirza Yaqoob Baig and Dr. Syed Mohammad Hussei Shah were the attending physicians. Huzoor asked for paper and wrote on it: `I have too much dryness. I can`t talk.` and some other words which could not be read.``
(Al-Fazl, Vol. 25, No. 274, November 24, 1937)

``As his condition became precarious, we stayed by him and continued treatment, but his pulse stopped by 10:15 A.M., on the 26th May, 1908 he breathed his last.``
(Al-Hakam, Mary 28, 1908)

We can not imagine what Mirza Ghulam might have felt when the hour of death approached and Allah(SWT) shut his mouth and tongue so that he could neither repent (proclaim Kalima) nor utter any more lies.


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#79 Posted by Naqshbandi on July 16, 2005 4:41:14 am
A reply to the Qadianis from the Qur`an and Sunnah

There are more than a hundred verses in the holy Qur`aan in support of the belief of ``Khatm-e-Nubuwwat`` (finality of prophethood). Since this article is being written in a short and comprehensive manner, I will quote just three verses.

1. This day I have perfected your religion for you, computed my favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islaam as your religion.

Soorah 5, Verse 4

It is evident from this verse that Allah Ta’aala has completed the religion of Islaam for this Ummah, therefore, there is no need for a new prophet after the Holy Prophet Muhammad sallallahu alayhi wasallam.

2. Say! O people! I am sent unto you all as the apostle of Allah. . .

Soorah 7, Verse 158

The word ``all`` in this verse clarifies that the Holy Prophet Muhammad sallallahu alayhi wasallam has been sent for the entire humanity till the Day of Judgement. Thus, this is a clear announcement of the ``finality of prophethood.``


3. We have not sent thee but as a universal (Messenger) to mankind giving them glad-tidings and warning them (against sin ), but most people understand not.

Soorah 34, Verse 28

In this verse the Holy Prophet Muhammad sallallahu alayhi wasallam has been mentioned as a ``Universal`` messenger. Therefore, there is no need for another prophet after the Holy Prophet Muhammad sallallahu alayhi wasallam.

Commentary of the Verses through Ahaadeeth

The belief of ``Khatm-e-Nubuwwat`` (finality of prophethood) has also been stressed in a number of Ahaadeeth which reach the sublime degree of Tawaatur (continuty). That is why Allaamah Aaloosi rahmatullahi alayh has said:

``And the Prophet Muhammad sallallahu alayhi wasallam being the final prophet is a belief based on what the Qur`aan has described, and the Sunnah has stated clearly and the (Consensus) Ijmaa`a of the Ummah. Therefore the claimant or the believer of a belief other than this will be declared a kaafir and killed if he insists.

(Roohul Ma`aani, Page 65, Volume 7)

Now, we will quote a few authentic Ahaadeeth for the benefit of the readers.

1.

``My likeness and the likeness of the prophets before me is the likeness of a person who built a house and made it complete and beautiful, except the place of a brick in a corner. So people began to go around it and wonder at it and say, ``Why has not this brick been placed?`` (The Prophet Muhammad sallallahu alayhi wasallam) said, ``I am the brick and I am the last of the prophets.``

Bukhaari, Page 501, Volume 2

Muslim, Page 248, Volume 2
2.

``The Holy Prophet Muhammad sallallahu alayhi wasallam said to Ali radhiyallahu anhu, ``You stand to me in the same relation as Haaroon alayhis salaam stood to Moosaa alayhis salaam, except that there is no prophet after me. ``

Bukhaari, Page 633, Volume 2

Muslim, Page 278, Volume 2
3.

``Verily, the apostle-ship and prophethood has finished. So there is no apostle and no prophet after me.``

Tirmizi
4.

``I am the last of the prophets and you are the last of the Ummahs (nations).``

Ibne Maajah, Page 307
5.

``....Verily, thirty liars will be born in my Ummah; every one of them will claim to be a prophet, though I am the last of the prophets, and there will be no prophet after me.``

Tirmizi, Page 45, Volume 2

There are more than 200 authentic Ahaadeeth which support the belief of ``Khatm-e-Nubuwwat`` (finality of prophethood). Hence, this doctrine is decidedly and unanimously acknowledged an article of faith in Islaam. At the same time I would like to draw your attention particularly towards the last Hadeeth where the Holy Prophet Muhammad sallallahu alayhi wasallam, besides confirming this belief in hundreds of his sayings, clearly predicted that claimants to prophethood will be born in his Ummah after him. The Holy Prophet Muhammad sallallahu alayhi wasallam has, therefore, warned the Muslims to beware of such impostors and always keep in mind that: ``I am the last of the prophets``, which obviously means that, ``there will be no prophet of any kind after me. ``


For more see this website: http://www.islaam.org/Finality/Finality-1.htm#The%20Finality%20Of

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#78 Posted by cayenne on July 15, 2005 11:37:17 pm
I like sufism `cause you and whirl and twirl and get on a high and space out of the daily and the mundane, for a while atleast.No substance abuse here ala `ganja` and `bhang` like some hindus do. All religions had an escape route and that was the main attraction in the good old days.Nowadays we have many diversions at the tip of our fingers and the business of religion has also changed.I don`t know or understand the higgledyposh (hadith et alia). I don`t want to either.I want to live.
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#77 Posted by sattar2 on July 15, 2005 9:45:05 pm

Urstruly,

A few clarifications are called for.

You claim 450+ hadith in support of continuation of prophethood

How did you came up with this figure?

If a hadith is passed through a chain of 13 narrators before it is written down, and is recorded in 5 different books of hadith, does that make it one hadith, or 13 ahadith, or 13x5=65 ahadith?


What makes you say that divine revelation ended?

Prophethood and revelation are two different things.
Are you confusing one with the other?

What do you make of hadith about return of Issa-ibne-Marriam?

- Will a prophet from two-thousand years ago reappear, in flesh and blood?

- Will he continue to receive revelations from Allah Almighty?

- If/when he reappears, what should one make of Quranic verses that declare him a prophet for Israelites only?


Naqsh … re #61 … comments on Miracles of Quran?

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#76 Posted by sattar2 on July 15, 2005 8:43:44 pm

450+ hadith and the new face of Islam …

Urstruly claims 450+ ahadith to support end of prophethood … but is unable to cite a single one to make his case. The first one he quoted, proved the exact opposite. Yes, hadith Urstruly quoted actually proved continuation of prophethood. Here’s how …

According to Urstruly, the dear Prophet said: ”I am the last prophet … and this mosque of mine is the last mosque.”

I think he only read the first half of the hadith. I drew his attention to second half (the part about last mosque) … and asked … ” Were any mosques built after the Prophet’s mosque? If yes, then what does ‘last mosque’ mean?” Urstruly could not come up with a straight answer.

I explained … here “last” means “most exalted” and a “model for others who follow”. And that the Prophet is the most exalted prophet, and other prophets will be ones who follow in his footsteps.

In response, Urstruly claimed (... get this ….) “one has to understand this hadith in context of numerous other ahadith in order to make the notion of end of prophethood palatable” [I remember ... since I had to look up meaning of `palatable`].

My head started to spin. It is not supposed to be this complicated, I thought. “What other hadith are you referring to”, I asked. But he stopped responding.

But there’s more …

This comedy continued … only with a different clown. This time it was Naqshbandi.

A few days later, Naqsh quoted same hadith to support end of prophethood. Déjà vu … I thought … it was too much of a coincidence. I drew Naqshbandi’s attention towards the second half of the hadith … and asked him to comment. He too failed to comment and became silent.

My personal conclusions ….

The issue is no longer about prophethood … or if Issa resides above the clouds or what. The main issue is that of maintaining integrity in one’s thoughts and in discussions … about treating others with honesty, without scamming them into accepting your views.

It became clear that mullahs are not interested in having honest discussions. They resort to trickery at the first sign of being shown to be incorrect … and are bent upon pushing their views even if it requires intellectual dishonesty.

This new face of Islam is a disappointment for me.

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#75 Posted by RizwanAhmed on July 15, 2005 6:45:34 pm
I hope you have read ``REAL PHILOSOPHY OF SUFISM``, then real sufi has/had no need of being naked. That is just plain ignorance ``Jihalat``. As it has been shown by light of this time, Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of Qadian the promissed messiah of Hindus, Jews, Christiens and Muslims.
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#80 Posted by Naqshbandi on July 16, 2005 4:46:00 am
The sly qadianis try to steal the imaan of innocent muslims by pretending the term khaatamun nabiyyeen has a different meaning to its actual one. Here is a refutation of that false claim insha Allah by a brother, may Allah reward him:

The Term ``Khaatamun Nabiyyeen`` According to the Arabic Language:

The word `Khaatam` can be read in two ways: Khaatim and Khaatam.
The word `Khaatim` means `terminator` or `seal`, and the word `Khaatam` means `last` or `seal`. Thus, in whichever way it is read the ultimate meanings are the same, i.e. last of all categories of Prophets.
Moreover, let us quote the opinion of the eminent scholars in the study of the Arabic language regarding the term ``Khaatamun Nabiyyeen`` in this particular verse of the holy Qur`aan.



1.

Imaam Raaghib Al Isfahaani rahmatullahi alayh writes in his book Al Mufradaat, Page 142: `And the seal of the Prophets`, because he has terminated the prophethood, i.e. he has completed it (the prophethood) by his coming.
2.

Allaamah Azhari rahmatullahi alayh writes in his book At Tahzeeb: `Khaatim` and `Khaatam` are from the names of the Holy Prophet Muhammad sallallahu alayhi wasallam. And in the Holy Qur`aan: Muhammad is not the father of any of your men, but (he is) the apostle of Allah and the seal of the Prophets, i.e. last of them.
3.

It is stated in Lisaan-ul-Arab: Whether it is `Khaatim` or `Khaatam`, it means `last of them`.
4.

It is stated in Qaamoos: `Khaatam` or `Khaatim` is the `last person` like the seal (which is affixed at the end of the letter).
5.

From this word is the holy verse `Khaatamun Nabiyyeen`, i.e. last of them.

The same opinion (i.e. ``Khaatamun Nabiyyeen`` means the last and final Prophet) can be cited in many more books written by high ranking scholars in the study of the Arabic language, e.g. Kulliyyaat-e- Abul Baqaa, Majma-`ul-Bihaar, Sihaah, Taaj-ul- Uroos, etc.
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#74 Posted by RizwanAhmed on July 15, 2005 6:42:49 pm
REAL PHILOSOPHY OF SUFISM


God has placed within a human being few controlling factors: the mind, the heart. The mind uses reasoning and intelligence and its job is to be occupied at all times in formulating ideas and forming ever-new thoughts, explanations and arguments. The mind has been assigned the duty of assessing the results and conclusions of various formulations. The heart, on the other hand, is the ‘king’ of the whole being. It does not use argument and proof because it has a link with the king of kings i.e., God almighty. And that is why it is sometimes informed with a clear and evident revelation and sometimes with a secret or hidden revelation. Another way of stating this is to say that the mind is under control of heart. Mind is occupied with formulating ideas and schemes as well as the means and consequences. The heart has no business with that.

Within the heart God has placed the power of instinct as an ant manages to reach exactly the place where there is something sweet. The ant does not have any proof of the fact that there is something sweet at a certain place. It reaches there because God has provided it with the instinct that guides it. In this sense heart shares similarity with the ant because it too has an instinctive sense within it that guides it and that does not depend upon proofs, arguments, conclusions and results. However it is quite another matter that the mind is able to and does provide such proofs for the ‘heart’.

One meaning of the heart is apparent and physical. The other meaning of the heart is spiritual. The literal meaning of the term Qalb [Arabic for heart] is that which moves around or returns. As the heart is the source of circulation of blood in the body, it is referred to as Qalb. In the spiritual sense it’s meaning is that the progress that a human being wishes to achieve is also based around ‘heart’. Just as the circulation of blood, crucial for sustaining human life, originates from the heart, so the spiritual progress is dependent upon the spiritual heart.

Some ignorant people including some philosophers of today, who place the mind at the center of all the best activity, do not know that this mind is only the seat of cognitive powers of reasoning and argument. The power of thought and memory is in the mind but there is as an aspect of the heart that makes it the ultimate sovereign inside human body. The activity of the mind has a contrived element about it that is not present in the case of the ‘heart’. That is why the heart bears a resemblance to Rabb-ul-Arsh, that is, the Lord of the Heavenly Throne. The ‘heart’ is able to recognize spiritual truths without proofs and arguments, purely through its instinctive powers. That is why it is stated in a Hadith of the Holy Prophet: “Istafil qalba”, that is, ask your heart for a verdict – it does not states ask your mind for a verdict.

It is to the heart that the ‘cord’ of God is linked and no one should consider this a far-fetched idea. It is, indeed, difficult and abstruse but those who purify themselves know that the heart does possesses such noble qualities. If the heart did not possess such qualities, then the very existence of the human being would have been considered useless. The Sufis and those who carry out spiritual exercises know this well that the heart has been seen giving out light in the form of pillars of light that reach towards the skies in a straight line. This experience is certain and well witnessed. Those who have taken such exercises or those who have decided to journey through the different stages of SALOOK, that is mystic initiation, they have found this to be true according to their experiences. It is as if there is a fine thread connecting Arsh and Qalb, linking the Divine Throne and the spiritual heart. At this stage the Qalb finds pleasure in the commands it receives from its Lord God – it is not dependent upon external proofs and evidence. It becomes MULHIM, that is, one who is a recipient of Divine Revelation, and internally converses with God and forms verdicts. However, it is true that as long as the heart remains only a heart, it becomes a proof of the condition illustrated in the following verse of the Holy Quran:

“If we had but listened or possessed sense” (CH 67:11)

That is, there is a time when a human being does not possess the powers of heart and mind, Then there comes a time when the mind develops its powers and faculties and then a time comes when the Qalb becomes engulfed by light – a light bursts forth and it is illuminated. When the time comes for the ‘heart’ to come to the fore, the human being attains spiritual maturity and the heart rules over the mind. At that stage, the powers of the mind do not have supremacy over the heart. It should be noted that the different states of the mind are not specific to the believers alone. All use the mind alike. Those who are involved in worldly affairs and in trade and business all use the powers of the mind and their mental faculties develop to the full. Every day new ideas and inventions are made to further their affairs.

However, when the work of the Qalb is carried out, it is then that a person becomes God’s. It is at that time that all inner powers of rule and control become under the power and rule of the ‘heart’, which attains a firm control, power and strength. It is at such a stage that a human being becomes a complete human being. This is the time when he becomes a living proof of the following verse of the Holy Qura’n where God states:

“I have breathed into him of My Spirit” (CH 15:30)

It is a time when even the angels prostrate before him. At that time he becomes a new human being. His soul is filled with pleasure and joy. It should be remembered that this pleasure does not resemble the carnal pleasure of an adulterer, nor does it resembles the enjoyment that is gained by listening to singing. No, it does not resemble any such thing and this should not deceive one. The pleasure of the soul is attained when a person’s being begins to melt and flow like water at the thought of and fear of God. It is at such a stage that he becomes the ‘Kalima’, that is, ‘the work’ and the essence of this verse:

“Verily His command, when He intends a thing, is only that he says to it ``Be” and it is.”
(CH 36:83)

Now some people consider that by visiting some holy person and without any effort or inner purification, they will be able to join the fold of the Truthful. This is just wishful thinking. You should study the Holy Quran to see that you cannot win the pleasure of god unless you too endure hardship and tribulation, as did the Prophets of God. Some of their ordeals and suffering were so extreme that according to Quran:

“Until the Messenger and the believers who were with him, cried out: When will the help of God arrive? Surely God’s help is nigh. (CH 2:215)

It has always been the case that the servants of God were put through many an ordeal and hardship before they were accepted by God.

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#73 Posted by RizwanAhmed on July 15, 2005 6:41:15 pm
Mr. Naqishbandi.

Abu-Jahal is called Abu-Jahal for specific reasons, and he is assigned this name not by his choice.

To remove the insult your are putting on real sufia`s, your article and description of sufia`s is million years away from what real sufisim is, what real sufiism was.
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#72 Posted by RizwanAhmed on July 15, 2005 6:37:22 pm
Ustruly:

Hazrat Mujdadad-ulf-sani was recepient of Quranic revelations

Hazrat Abdul-Kadir Jilani was recepient of Quranic revelattions.

Its easy to realize the bankcruptcy of so-called modern muslim scholars and thier followers, are you blind or do you want to read reality, do you want to close your ears, escape the reality.

God does not post-pone any of his attribute, His attributes or always present.

This is other matter, Quran is complete and final revelation. Now if verses of Quran are revealed to His chosen ones, Who are you to oppose that?

If you and your dry-scholars are not recepient of such grace, this does not mean that God has stopped has favours on others.
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#82 Posted by Naqshbandi on July 16, 2005 5:23:01 am
Re: # 72

Please don`t mention the names of two of the greatest Saints of Islam, the stalwarts of Ahlus Sunnah w`al Jama`ah, with your qadiani tongue. They received ilhaam NOT wahy (radhi Allahu anhuma).

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#71 Posted by RizwanAhmed on July 15, 2005 6:29:52 pm

CORRECT CONCEPT OF ``MAJZOB`` ACCORDING TO REAL SUFIA`S

The status of the people on the path of JAZB is greater than those on the path of Salook; the term JAZB implies absorption of the love of God. Those who strive on the path of Jazb are not left at the stage of Salook; God deliberately puts them through ordeals and tribulations in order to draw them close to Himself through the eternal power of absorption, that is, JAZBA-E-AZLI. All the Prophets of God were MAJZOOB, that is, they were drawn to God and were absorbed in God.

When the human soul is faced with painful ordeals and tribulations, the experience and the consequent humility makes it radiant. Just as iron or glass while possessing the capacity to shine, shine only after they have undergone a lengthy process of burnishing and then they shine so brightly that in them is reflected the face person looking gin. Striving in the path of God also works as a process of burnishing. The burnishing of the heart should be such a degree that the face is reflected in the resulting mirror of heart. What is meant by ‘reflection of the face? The meaning of this is to become the fulfillment of the saying, ‘Create with in you morals in accordance with “Character” of God’. The heart of the Salik, that is, the initiate, is a ‘mirror’ that is burnished so much through undergoing experiences of great suffering and tribulation that the reflection of the moral qualities of the Holy Prophet are fixed upon it. This occurs at a time when, having undergone numerous spiritual exercises and inner purification, there remain no resentment or impurity within. It is only when that this status is attained, Every Muslim believer needs this kind of cleansing to some extent. No believer will find salvation whilst being without the ‘mirror’ of the heart.
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#68 Posted by ballukhan on July 15, 2005 7:10:30 am

“Presently, I am drowned [mustaghraq] in Negation [9] ; I have not yet reached the (spiritual) station of Affirmation yet. If I read the full kalimah in this state, I will be telling a lie.”
I am in tears...........no words can express this essense of Islam which cannot be fathomed by the literalists................

Regarding the miracles part, I agree with you Sattar mian!! I am also amazed that some one who understands Hazrat Sarmad`s metaphors fails to understand the richness of clear metaphors that the Prophet (Sal Allaahu Alayhi wa Sallam) had used. I did not know that naqshabandi tariqah relies on the dominent literalist Sunni understanding of metaphors which turned Aurangzeb into a murderer of Hazrat Samrad.
One needs to interpret the metaphors through the language of one`s heart (like his statement that ``There is not God.`` ) that Hazrat Samrad was versed with- and not make the same mistake of taking literalist interpretation of the clear metaphors in Quran.
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