Hazrat Sarmad Shaheed: The Naked Sufi Martyr

Asif:

...this caught my attention for two reason:

In those days travellers went to India via Sindh and he too took that path. When he got to Thatta, he fell in love with a Hindu boy. He was so lost in love that he forgot his own self but became completely oblivious to his trade too! The historians are divided as to the exact location of this incident. Ali Quli Khan Daghistani places this incident in Surat [3]. Azad Bilgrami has said that it took place in Azimabad, Patna. Sher Khan Lodhi writes, “In the town of Thatta for trade, he fell ardently in love with a Hindu boy[4].”

...if he is passing through Sindh...then Thatta is the same as present day city of that name about 60 kms north of Karachi....

Surat at the head of Tapti is way south...it was a leading port at one time...and could be an entry point if he was travelling by ship

Azimabad, Patna is way way west

also, Karachi at one point boasted of best indian boy-brothels...see accounts of the area in sir richard burtons accounts...

digression: burton was `documented` for some of the reports he filed on that subject...he mentions he was taken off sindh scouting and was sent south...

rgds

t

Great character, this sufi saint.He had the balls to be himself, even unto death.I hope `Temporal` will stop dreaming about the days karachi had `boy-brothels` as he calls them and end the agony he`s goin` through.Just GO BACK and open one and ENJOY!!!., is what i would say to him.hehe.Or, maybe he should move to Mumbai.The entire city just smells of sex, any kind of sex.

# 2:

get a looser underwear sir!

Sir Francis Burton

also google for Sindhe Visited

and another Sindh Revisited this latter by ondaatje and haroon siddiqui

PS to # 1

patna-- way way east:)

Re: # 3

get a looser underwear sir!

I wear boxers.

#5:

with due respect your posts all over chowk indicate poor blood circulation:)

...my suggestion was to alleviate that situation...but please feel free to ignore!

Eveyone`s so touchy feely nowadays.I wish everyone was like Hazrat Sarmad Shaheed!!.The world will be a much nicer place indeed.

2-6,

....Cayenne is the village jester (idiot is a too strong word). He has carved his niche on CHOWK - a harmless jester who completes the scene in his own insignificant way.
..............

Naqshbandi

I fail to see how Sarmad qualifies as a Saint or even Shaheed. He neither seems to be following Shariat nor Tareeqat - two cause celebre of the Sufism. And what the hell does it mean to fall in ``ardent love`` with a boy. Isn`t that another violation of Sufism, which insists on Ishq-e-haqeeqi. Did he find god in that boy?

As far as concept of Shahadat goes, the martyrdom only is granted if one dies in the cause of Allah or while protecting Muslims and Saltunat-e-Khudadad, whereas he died while uttering not only Kalimat-e-Kufr but also in sedition of Saltunat-e-Khudadad. According to Islamic law, an idiot (one with diminished/compromised mental capacity) and minor cannot be subjected to death penalty, therefore, we can call his death as judicial political murder but calling it shahadat is stretching it a bit too much.

Naqshbandi, I am really disappointed. At this moment when capitalist vampires are breathing down our necks; our religion, our soveriegnity, and our freedom is being taken away from us moment by moment, you are telling us about autistic naked faqirs and how we should follow their path. Have mercy on your own people, guide them to the righteous path if God has given you knowledge and comprehension (Aql-o-fehm).

urstruly:

welcome back!

At this moment when capitalist vampires are breathing down our necks; our religion, our soveriegnity, and our freedom is being taken away from us moment by moment,...

what do you mean by above?

Re: # 10

He means that it is just a matter of time before someone picks you up from where you are at and send you back to where you or your ancestors came from.Last thursday was D-day for the war on terror.It is not about the dingy brits anymore.It is about Europe, the real prize.Start packing , mon ami and bon voyage.

Re: # 10 t

I hope you did not ask this question in jest. One has to be blind, not to see that half of the Muslim countries are under direct military occupation of the West and in most of the rest corporations appoint the proxy leadership. For example, in Pakistan, Citibank appoints Prime Ministers (not once but twice), whereas Generals on foreign payroll provide the muscle to them; in Central Asian Muslim States Haliburton and Bechtel appoint proxy dictators; in Africa Shell, BP, and other Gold and Diamond conglemurates appoint their proxies. Today, in this world each and every Muslim stands disenfranchised, whether he is in his own land or in his adopted country. Some of us do strongly feel about it.

Asif,

``I opened my eyes from the dream of Non-Existence ``

Do you know what this means ?
Do you know in which philosophy this metaphor is used ? :)

urstruly:

look at this quote and the date-time stamp?

#9 by Urstruly on July 13, 2005 12:53pm PT

nothing that you have mentioned in #9 and subsequently elaborated in # 12: is a new phenomenon...the Muslims in general and their leaders in particular have been in a free fall for the past few hundred years...

so why this suddent empathy by you now? that is what i am trying to understand

rgds

t

ps: is there any reason why you stayed away from other relevant boards below?

...i have been told about this nanga baba who has not spoken for thirty years and people come from far and wide to obtain his blessings for the winning lottery number or success in love or to get a job in police or income tax department or other material gains...atleast he was not a homo sexual...infact he was asexual coz he was all of 75 years and was a certified madcap...people still worshipped him...i wonder when aasif naqshbandi is going to write about hazrat nanga baba...

Mr. Asif, Its good that you included the story about the Hazrat Sahib’s deewana-pan for the little hindu boy with whom he fell in love. Because that explains everything. All his reference to HIM is actually meant for the Hazrat Sahibs feeling horny for the little hindu boy and not for Allah.

“He is happy on account of my humble self
Evil eye and wine is stolen from my hands
He is in my bosom; search for Him in me!
Tis strange that a thief has caused me to be naked!”

In the poem above, I think its obvious that the naked Hazrat NAMBLA Sahib is clearly expressing his hurt over loosing his heart to the little boy.