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#78

there is a Pakistani face saving device called ``equal-equal``, unable to comprehend the extent of crimes committed in their name the Pakistani`s say ``but they surely must have done worse to us?`` this is a defence mechanism, not something based in fact.

#78, yes yes, I know its all hindu propaganda but read
http://meaindia.nic.in/jk/kaluchak-massacre.htm

read the names of victims of Kaluchak


(a) Mrs. Premwati (40 yrs) W/o Subedar J.N. Yadav.
(b) Mrs. Avlodhan Devi ( 65yrs) M/o Company Quarter Master Havildar (CQMH) RDP Singh
(c) Ms. Muli (6 yrs) D/o CQMH RDP Singh
(d) Ms. Nitu (14 yrs) D/o Havildar H.S Chauhan.
(e) Mrs. Raya Chauhan ( 30 yrs) W/o Havildar Chauhan.
(f) Mrs. Lalita Kumari (26 yrs) W/o CQMH R.K. Yadav.
(g) Master Amit Yadav (5 yrs) S/o CQMH R.K. Yadav.
(h) Ms. Amandeep Kaur (5 yrs) D/o Subedar Attar Singh
(i) Master Jitender Singh (12 yrs) S/o Subedar Attar Singh
(j) Ms. Dimple (18 yrs) D/o Subedar Gurdev Singh.
(k) Mrs Jaswinder Kaur ( 45 Yrs ) W/O Subedar Gurdev Singh
(l) Mrs Joginder Kaur (21 Yrs) W/O Lance Naik Harbhajan Singh
(m) Master Devender Singh ( 3 Yrs) S/O Battalion Havildar Major Manjeet Singh
(n) Mrs Baljit Kaur (30 Yrs) W/O Sepoy Gurlal Singh
(o) Ms Amandeep Kaur ( 2 Yrs) D/O Sepoy Gurlal Singh
(p) Mrs Punam Devi (38 Yrs) W/O Havildar Surendra Kumar
(q) Ms Anchal (8 Yrs) D/O Havildar Surendra Kumar
(r) Ms Gagan Deep Kaur ( 2 Months) D/O Battalion Havildar Major Manjeet Singh died at the local MH at 2330 hrs on 14 May 0

see their ages: 2 months, 5years, 8 years, 65 years
doesnt your chest just swell with pride Charlie?

#78
Parliament Attack: 13 December, 2001
KALUCHAK MASSACRE: May 14, 2002
Akshardham Attack: September 24, 2002
Bombay Blasts: August 25, 2003


yes, I know Iknow, we hindu`s did it ourselves to defame the ``pure as driven snow`` pakis, so save your breath

http://www.rediff.com/news/2003/apr/04spec.htm

Re: # 76

You are living in Past. Pakistani institutions were involved in ``freedom struggle`` in Kashmir. Pakistanis supported ``Khalistan`` movement. Just like the way, RAW remained involved in bomb blasts inside Pakistan. Should we keep on drumming the beat how India supported MQM in Karachi during 90s or they supported Mukti Bahni in 1970/71. What else do you expect? In the presence of so many disputed issues, do you want us to give you chocolates and flowers?

After 9/11 however, situation has changed a lot. But Indians are still living in Past. Even if Manmohan Singh catches flu, ISI causes it. Indians have Pakistan-phobia.

#73
charlie, do you remember the hijackers who got released from indian jails? they were in jail, they got freed, very much alive, and one of them went on to murder daniel pearl, who brought so much bad PR to pakistan.

pakistani establishment knows where many of the terrorist are, so when pressure gets high from bush, they catch a couple, and summarily hand them over to americans without even a pretense of due process. that earned the infamous dog cartoon. since you are interested in trials mr dawood-bhai is in karachi, very alive, please hand him over, he will be tried hopefully to your satisfaction (unless he dies in an unfortunate escape attempt).

rule of law in india is spotty at best, but catchiing and prosecuting jehadis bent on blowing themselves is not easy even in the west. so US went the G`bay route, and UK passed all kinds of strange new laws.

pakistani`s who deny the role their goverment institutions have played in terrorist incidences all over India (and not just Kashmir) are delibrate obfuscators at best and islamist sypathizers at worst.

anyway I see no reason to waste time with such sophistry.

http://www.time.com/time/asia/magazine/2001/0205/kashmir_sb1.html

#73

yu are a half-wit moron, and anything that doesnt fit in your worldview will be dismissed as propaganda, but anyway, this is my last attempt

http://www.why-war.com/news/2002/01/01/diaryofa.html

Re: # 68

* Why cannot the Indians try and capture the terrorists alive and then internationally televise their trials...the world must learn of their identitiy...this will put greater pressure on the entitites that support them...


A million dollar question.

If Technologically advanced and very rich Indians don`t know how to capture a few illiterate terrorists alive, Pakistan police can be of some help. No matter how backward, corrupot and poor Pakistani police is, in recent past they have captured a lot of terrorists alive. Sometime even without gas bombs that make the aggresssors unconscious.

haha..who is this semi-literate fool Cadbury ? A typical Pakistani `intellectual`...

Re: # 65

Keep on pretending, you seem to have forgotten beggers don`t give threats do they ???

About Jihadis well find out first wht it means and then tlk about it i am not event gonna waste my time teaching u tht. We don`t really call the killers of gujrat roits, 1992 roits or the ones who bought down a mosque sadhus and pandits either although thats what they dress as don`t they and unlike you i do know what Sadhus and Pandit mean

``... Why cannot the Indians try and capture the terrorists alive and then internationally televise their trials...the world must learn of their identitiy....``

there is evidence and evidence galore, what difference has it made?

Firstly these chaps have a nasty habit of blowing themselves up, even if we captured someone and put them on TV the Paki`s will scream ``propoganda``,

here let me read out the article that will appear jang:

``In another display of Hindoo perfidity a hapless Indian muslim was repeatedly tortured and made to confess to all sorts of crimes. It was quite apparent from his vacant expression the torture the person was made to go through.

Pakistan once again condemms all acts of violence``

Re: # 60

Sorry sweets didn`t see ur answer. So wht was the banter about same resources ? well lets see we have the same sun and the moon (they do give us their blessings everyday u know) same patch of land as well and we also have the same skin colour almost, same social problems but since you are not like normal human being these similarities dont mean enough so listen lady, the atom bomb just like yours, soldiers just like yours (most of ours are actually better), tanks like yours, ships like yours, ordinace factories like your, planes like yours etc etc etc.

What more are you looking for ??? how hard is it for you guys to move on from 1947 ??? and buying stuff frm you well incase you haven`t NOTICED we have the MONEY too to spend and you know the best reason YOU ARE CHEAP. When was the last time India became SOOO independant that it stopped buying stuff from abroad. I don`t wanna waste my time researching the net on whtever u buy frm whereever in detail but i guess you know those already don`t you.

Smarten up lady wake up to reality the world really is what you make it and your kinda attitude will only make it worse. And please dont come back crying about me having double standards and talking about kicking your ass cuz i ve said that from the start we will do it IF you provoke and you know smthing just like bombs in temples hurt you explotions and rifle bursts in Mosque hurt us too its not like we will just sit and let you walk over us ever

and yeh tht posty about being ahead of us just incase you`ve forgotten we are always 24 hours earlier than you in our freedon from brits and ofcourse how can i forget YOU.

Again breaking mosques and temples is not the way to move forward but then even after smone specifically mentioning it to you, you wana go over it again and again and again

Questions to consider:

* Why did it come now?
* What was the aim of the attackers?
* Did the BJP meeting at Surat and the Kulkarni resignation have anything to do with this?
* Who benefits most if the peace process is hindered or rolled back?
* How soon will calm prevail? (this was misconstrued - i meant long term calm between India and Pakistan)
* Are we ordained not to live in peace?
* Can the ordinary people in India (and Pakistan) ever look forward to peaceful days?

* What selfish forces do not want that to happen?

and one new one:

* Why cannot the Indians try and capture the terrorists alive and then internationally televise their trials...the world must learn of their identitiy...this will put greater pressure on the entitites that support them...

Re: # 65
Don`t get me wrong I will still stand by my beating ur ass claims but unlike u thats not everything my world revolves around. Respecting each other is the eventual conclusion anyone with BRAINS will come to but then how would you ever understand it ??? God is great isn`t he ?

#59 by Cadbury on July 6, 2005 12:29pm PT


just check which side had treason inquiries against there own people weapon scandals against their own leaders. I don`t remember that happening in Pakistan and unlike you my memory isn`t bad at all.


Silly me...I thought wars were decided by who held the ground in contention...