Temporal July 5, 2005
#57 Posted by bongdongs on July 6, 2005 11:18:54 am
#55
The indian elite as epitomized by Indira stuffed her ego in her handbag and got on her knees and begged for PL-480 food aid when famine stalked the land.
thant is the difference between a democracy and a dictatorship.
The indian elite as epitomized by Indira stuffed her ego in her handbag and got on her knees and begged for PL-480 food aid when famine stalked the land.
thant is the difference between a democracy and a dictatorship.
#54 Posted by arjun_m on July 6, 2005 11:11:37 am
#49 by bongdongs on July 6, 2005 10:12am PT
Wonder why the principled pakis with their just and moral stand are ok with an internet link through India....shouldn`t that be contingent on the resolution of the kashmir issue..
Wonder why the principled pakis with their just and moral stand are ok with an internet link through India....shouldn`t that be contingent on the resolution of the kashmir issue..
#56 Posted by Charlie on July 6, 2005 11:16:55 am
Re: # 54 Wonder why the principled pakis with their just and moral stand are ok with an internet link through India....shouldn`t that be contingent on the resolution of the kashmir issue..
We pay you for what we buy. Right? You earn profit with what you sell. No? We reserve the right to buy from no matter where on no matter what price. Aap ko takleef?
We pay you for what we buy. Right? You earn profit with what you sell. No? We reserve the right to buy from no matter where on no matter what price. Aap ko takleef?
#53 Posted by arjun_m on July 6, 2005 11:06:11 am
#45 by Charlie on July 6, 2005 9:23am PT
during the talks keep on showing a stubborn attitude.
yes..Indians are stubborn...they won`t hand over Kashmir to you on a platter...they won`t sit around while you occupy kargil...they won`t let you take siachen...stubborn bania SOBs all of them...
during the talks keep on showing a stubborn attitude.
yes..Indians are stubborn...they won`t hand over Kashmir to you on a platter...they won`t sit around while you occupy kargil...they won`t let you take siachen...stubborn bania SOBs all of them...
#52 Posted by kaurasach on July 6, 2005 10:46:43 am
I did not notice the questions at the end.
One cannot expect peace like in US/Canada/West Europe. There will be `relative` peace, calm/ prosperity from time to time.
India cannot/shouldnot expect cooperation from either Pakistan or Bangladesh in peace making - the other two players in the subcontinent. On the contrary, religious fanaticism, old scores, chasms are too deep.
India is a house divided by corruption, selfish interests, agendas, religious, racial, caste, hatred, politics etc. Thus, she can only clap and make noise like a hij ra. who is impotent to do anything else.
So, as they say in Punjabi, this region will survive only ``Rab they Sahaaray``. (with the aid of divine interventions).
One cannot expect peace like in US/Canada/West Europe. There will be `relative` peace, calm/ prosperity from time to time.
India cannot/shouldnot expect cooperation from either Pakistan or Bangladesh in peace making - the other two players in the subcontinent. On the contrary, religious fanaticism, old scores, chasms are too deep.
India is a house divided by corruption, selfish interests, agendas, religious, racial, caste, hatred, politics etc. Thus, she can only clap and make noise like a hij ra. who is impotent to do anything else.
So, as they say in Punjabi, this region will survive only ``Rab they Sahaaray``. (with the aid of divine interventions).
#51 Posted by temporal on July 6, 2005 10:31:19 am
folks!
this was a hurried reportage!
the only thing i added were some questions...and after reading the interacts i have a few more...but first let me thank the few who made an attempt to answer some of them...forgive me if i skip a name...thanks veeru, dost, concerned, kaurasach, drlokraj, Netizen,wahi_to, HP, mohar 11, rajivr, harish, charlie, cadbury, bongdongs
in another post i will add dome more queries..for now a comment...
geographically we cannot chose neighbours...like siblings we have to learn to live with our neighbours...we cannot make amends for accidents of our birth...but we certainly can make a difference in the quality of life around us till we also join the dead
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this was a hurried reportage!
the only thing i added were some questions...and after reading the interacts i have a few more...but first let me thank the few who made an attempt to answer some of them...forgive me if i skip a name...thanks veeru, dost, concerned, kaurasach, drlokraj, Netizen,wahi_to, HP, mohar 11, rajivr, harish, charlie, cadbury, bongdongs
in another post i will add dome more queries..for now a comment...
geographically we cannot chose neighbours...like siblings we have to learn to live with our neighbours...we cannot make amends for accidents of our birth...but we certainly can make a difference in the quality of life around us till we also join the dead
rgds
t
#49 Posted by bongdongs on July 6, 2005 10:12:04 am
this is how bright the Pakistani elite like Charlie is, they will strve their own people just to maintain their hostitlity to India.
http://www.financialexpress.com/latest_full_story.php?content_id=95749?headline=Sugar~to~sweeten~Indo-Pak~ties
http://www.financialexpress.com/latest_full_story.php?content_id=95749?headline=Sugar~to~sweeten~Indo-Pak~ties
#55 Posted by Charlie on July 6, 2005 11:13:45 am
Re: # 49 this is how bright the Pakistani elite like Charlie is, they will strve their own people just to maintain their hostitlity to India.
Mohtyaram Janab Bongdong Sahib! I don`t understand why Indians like you have the habit of advising Pakistanis. What they hell do they think of themselves? Aflatoons? My foot.
If somebody is starving, it is us: the Pakistanis. Since when our neighbours started feeling bad for our starvation.
Bhai Saab, Before informing us about the poverty of Pakistan, first try to take care of 300 million poor inside your country.
Thanks.
Mohtyaram Janab Bongdong Sahib! I don`t understand why Indians like you have the habit of advising Pakistanis. What they hell do they think of themselves? Aflatoons? My foot.
If somebody is starving, it is us: the Pakistanis. Since when our neighbours started feeling bad for our starvation.
Bhai Saab, Before informing us about the poverty of Pakistan, first try to take care of 300 million poor inside your country.
Thanks.
#48 Posted by kaurasach on July 6, 2005 9:37:47 am
An oddity - no group has claimed responsibility. Is it because the mission was a failure?
#50 Posted by mohar11 on July 6, 2005 10:26:32 am
Re: # 48 kaura
Could be. Did anybody claim credit for the attack on parliament? that was a failure too.
Could be. Did anybody claim credit for the attack on parliament? that was a failure too.
#47 Posted by bongdongs on July 6, 2005 9:33:00 am
Pakistani ``dissatisfaction`` with talk`s is due to their over-inflated ego, every talk begins and ends with ``gimme, gimme, gimme ...``
here hear it again: you are not going to be given on platter what you havent won in 3 1/2 wars. get it?
here hear it again: you are not going to be given on platter what you havent won in 3 1/2 wars. get it?
#46 Posted by bongdongs on July 6, 2005 9:30:55 am
#45
good so now you are convinced of the ``truth`` about indian`s I hope you will stop identifying yourself as one (as you have admitted to doing)
good so now you are convinced of the ``truth`` about indian`s I hope you will stop identifying yourself as one (as you have admitted to doing)
#45 Posted by Charlie on July 6, 2005 9:23:49 am
#42 We talk, you kill...
Huh! Plain Lie. If India had any wish to solve problems on talks, all problems might have been solved till now. Pakistan is a weaker country, why it will take so much pain to destablize India. Only reason for that is that India always avoid talks or during the talks keep on showing a stubborn attitude.
#44 http://www.saag.org/papers15/paper1440.html
garbage. Full of lies. One can easily see that writer puts everything on Muslims and then on ISI.
Huh! Plain Lie. If India had any wish to solve problems on talks, all problems might have been solved till now. Pakistan is a weaker country, why it will take so much pain to destablize India. Only reason for that is that India always avoid talks or during the talks keep on showing a stubborn attitude.
#44 http://www.saag.org/papers15/paper1440.html
garbage. Full of lies. One can easily see that writer puts everything on Muslims and then on ISI.
#44 Posted by bongdongs on July 6, 2005 9:11:01 am
#35
here read this:
http://www.saag.org/papers15/paper1440.html
here read this:
http://www.saag.org/papers15/paper1440.html
#41 Posted by bongdongs on July 6, 2005 8:12:36 am
#34
it is important to understand that L-e-T has no ``mass base`` in a mainstream pakistani religious organizations. It is a offshoot of a minority sect, it was created and almost totally funded by ISI.
Now the point is do you consider elements within the ISI as ``rogue`` or completely an arm of the state?
it is important to understand that L-e-T has no ``mass base`` in a mainstream pakistani religious organizations. It is a offshoot of a minority sect, it was created and almost totally funded by ISI.
Now the point is do you consider elements within the ISI as ``rogue`` or completely an arm of the state?
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