Dance of the wolves

Kashmakash : ``And once again, I say Indians are not secular. They only pretend. ``

Huh ? Everybody in a civilised society pretends to be secular . Why single out Indians ? Americans are officially secular , but a growing majority believes in hell and brimstone christian fundamentalism.

Atleast Indians have pretensions of being secular and strive to be so . Unlike some who follow certain religion with a certain holy book that unambigiously asks them to kill , torture and humiliate those who do not share their faith.

Re: # 46 kash
//...I say Indians are not secular....//

That`s what YOU say - it don`t really matter what you say.

#49 and Mike, neither you are secular nor you pretend. If you think Muslims are swines, you publically claim so. Ask some doctor to check your DNA, it matches that of Arab DNAs. ;)

Re: # 9
Mike: Your comments about Muslims and Mohammed are unfounded, and pathetic.

Kashmakash - The majority of the muslims in India do not share your opinion. That`s the reason they are in India remember. Sure politics and recents incidents in India have definetely played into your line of reasoning but that is not a complete picture.

Raja

As I told you Kashmakash ...post 9-11, muslims dont count. Secularism means tolerance of all faith , all religions. But Islam is a murderous cult founded by a sick depraved pedophile. No reason for anybody to respect Islam. Hatred for a cult like Islam is only normal for a civilised society.

Kannaraja : ``Mike: Your comments about Muslims and Mohammed are unfounded, and pathetic``

I hope you are aware that Mr.Muhammad married a 6 year old girl called Ayesha when he was in is mid-50s and first had sex with her when she reached the mature age of 9.

Re: # 54
Why does Ayeshas marriage concern you?

Raja

Mr. Kannaraja...58 year old having sexual intercourse with a 9 year old. And a whole bunch of people hold that 58 year old as a role model and will kill and die for stuff he spat out. Does than not bother you ? Are you are pedo yourself ?

arjuna #45

i think you missed the point too. that did not exclude farzana, even if i would have not referred to her as a side dish as you did.

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some of you tell me or think i should take a break from ``defending`` farzana. i wonder why some of you guys bother with her. is it because you enjoy calling her all the names you do? why d`you all ridicule her and impute all sorts of things to her. oh, i know you`re going to tell me she asks for it. but really. . . does what she say and write really matter that much to you in the scheme of things. aap ka bharat mahaan tau bharat mahaan hi rahega na? is there anyone on this site who would represent bharat mahaan the way you would want it to. . . what do we have here at chowk, we have farzana and the ``loony liberals`` at one extreme. . . on your spectrum, and then we have gujjubania aka whatever and his new-found friend ranjit hira on the other. i`m sure that with all the time and energy you spend (or waste -- it`s all relative) putting down pakis, and commies, and ms. versey, you all can come up with an analytical piece on india that would appeal to your sense of desh even more.

i guess what i`m trying to say is -- quite a few pakistanis ignore anything i have to say because they think i`m loony (not that what i have to say amounts to a hill of beans anyways). is it possible for you to just ignore farzana rather than the personal insults if you think where she`s coming from doesn`t amount to much? bharat mahaan tau bharat mahaan hi rahega na? just give it a whirl sometime!

bye bye.

Why do you think 9-11 happened ? Why was there celebration among the followers of this famous pedophile when it happened ? Does it not bother you Mr.Kannaraja ?

#51 & #50 & few others (Indians are not secular).
Indians (Hindus) need not be secular at all. They can be very religious and have every right to do so. INDIAN GOVERNMENT needs to be secular where it treats all people equally no matter what their religion is.

FVs article:
Will it be possible to provide a link to Jaswant Singhs interview about ``aastha``? I also believe that Ram Mandir would be more sacrilegious than Akshardham.

I would not call Mayawati trivial but for sure loony.

You might have not asked BJP/VHP/RSS to raise issues but many other would agree to stop talks with Pakistan. These people would like to be represented by BJP & Shiv Sena.

Following links points union home minister saying that the center knew about it and were prepared for it: http://us.rediff.com/news/2005/jul/05centre.htm

The temple is not yet built but still there is a make shift shrine where thousands of devotees offer prayer. That means that a sacred place of worship of hindus was attacked.

Hindu community is attacked but hope no `innocent` people are killed. To your words in quotes like action and reaction, I hope you know that Narendra Modi never uttered them but it was a lie by Times Of India `Journalist`

I think those who have the good of India at their heart would always want to see that ``today ends today``.

Re: # 56
It doesn`t bother me. I am least worried. And I am NOT a PEDO.

What do you think of child marriages in India which are still rampant in some states? Don`t you think those marriages are being consumated early? You are not worried or concerned about them, are you?

Re: # 48
Wow! you indulge in name calling with so little provocation. With one post of mine you have jumped on the band wagon calling me ``Ttibal arab brainwahsed muslim`` or whatever that means?
The ``paki mullah`` who is fighting in Iraq for the cause of Islam is the real brainwashed one, not me. Again, i am a fairly educated person, but i cant speak intelligently about what delusional version of islam, a ``paki mullah`` in Iraq is fighting for Your line of accusation is tantamount to laying the blame on every white person for the crimes committed during slavery.

You said,`` There has never ever been any semblance of the UTOPIAN, DELUSIONAL ISLAM you are talking about. NEVER.``

Well there was. It was during the times of Prophet (PBUH). I am sure you are going to come back with some puerile refuttion calling him a polygamist pedophile and warring tyrant. And I see very clearly the futility of engaging in a belated forum based conversation with you about a time when neither of us were born.

You said, ``The world knows ISLAM now.``

That you are right about. Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world.
http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/9704/14/egypt.islam/

Its also glaringly obvious you know very little about Islam, Qur`an and the Sunnah, and being as parochial as you are expected to be, you have just hurled insult at our beloved Prophet (pBUH) by calling him a ``delusional tribal arab.`` Who is the bigoted fanatic here?dont worry, i will keep my reserve and not resort to the similar type of belittlement of your religion (whatever that may be).

Re: # 61
Grunge: On side note - Did you enjoy Few Good Men over the week end TNT telecast?

``Again, i am a fairly educated person, but i cant speak intelligently about what delusional version of islam,``

Raja

Re: # 40
Do you believe that it was a nut job when Akshardham temple was attacked.
If the killers would have been able to get into ram mandir they would have killed hundreds of devotees.
I hope no one takes this attack as lightly as you have taken.

Re: # 62

Except for the ``again`` part. dont you just love jack Nicholson?. it must have entered my sub-conscious. Good call:)