London Targeted: Numbers Game

..... the fix


.......... i know we all think that things have never been worse and the world is coming to an end, but if you step back and look at mankind`s history since cain killed abel, things have been pretty much the same ........ i honestly believe that man was pre-programmed to self destruct - it is simply a matter of time ...........

....... have we ever had a time in history when there was no war, no killing, no mayhem ?......... think about it - you could have been living in baghdad when the mongols razed it to the ground, or in mecca when mohammad captured it, or new delhi when nadir shah or tamerlane ransacked it, or jerusalem when the crusaders came through or dacca when the pakistani army ran amok ............ heck, you could have been living in virginia during the civil war in which almost a million americans were killed.......... or you could have been a jew living in nazi germany or a tutsi living in rawanda or a cambodian living under pol pot ...........

........... things are bad, but they have never been any better ......... nothing a few stiff martinis cannot fix ........

...send her victorious (to Australia)
happy and glorious (in Sydney Harbor)
long may she reign (over terrorized people)
God save the queen!

Temporal....I know you are among the many voices in the wilderness, but , dealing with the here and now, should make you and many of your countrymen concerned for the plight of paks in Britain.The british are nasty people.Americans might talk tough, but they`re softies.This time , i think , the game was misplayed.If i was pak, and in the UK, i`d leave as fast as my hairy legs can take me.

Ranjit the acts of terrorism are for political purposes. These bloodies are only using the name of Islam as a cover. This act of thier`s will bring more troubles and hatred for common muslims.

Looks like muslims all over the world have totally lost their minds and are hell bent on self-destruction. First they attack Ayodhya, now they attack London killing people indiscriminately. What do they hope to accomplish by doing this? Clearly they cannot kill all non-muslims. It cannot be for the glory of Islam, because no sane person will convert to a murderous religion like this anymore. It cannot be for any political gain from India or UK because it is going to make people even more unwilling to negotiate on any matter, whether it is Kashmir or Iraq.

Thanks to these kind of stupid actions, muslims are rapidly becoming worse than lepers in this world. They had already become lepers in the US, now it is going to happen in Europe too. As this downward spiral continues, a time will come when non-muslims will stop viewing muslims as human beings anymore resuling in catastrophic consequences for muslims. The jewish holocaust will look like a picnic in contrast.

If u want to filter out...why do you ask us to interact??

An eye for and Eye,
A tooth for a tooth.
If you break by kiosk
I will break your booth.

My God is God
And your is just the reverse.
Our children are God`s gift
Your`s are all perverse.

I am lost O God
Why was I born at this time?
Within this maddening crowd
I am looking for a Line.

Nichiro

An eye for and Eye,
A tooth for a tooth.
If you break by kiosk
I will break your booth.

My God is God
And your is just the reverse.
Our children are God`s gift
Your`s are all perverse.

I am lost O God
Why was I born at this time?
Within this maddening crowd
I am looking for a Line.

Nichiro

Where do you stand, Temporal?

Let`s see, how about organising a ``Muslims at Toronto March against Terror``? (MATMAT).

Or putting your open Letter to the Editor to the media in Toronto on the subject and getting people to sign it?

Yes, stand up and be counted. Today is Friday, right, why not head for your neighbourhood mosque and be counted, and count others, and publish details?

Yes, Temporal, and all the rest over here and our friends who are in the forefront again, please stand up and be counted, or forever keep your peace.

There is too much whining, too little corrective, on the part of the silent majority. Spot on.

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From The Sun, in UK:-

By BRIAN FLYNN
and JOHN KAY

THE bomb blitz is feared to be the work of a new breed of terrorists — young, well-educated British Asians loyal to Osama bin Laden.

Last night a terror cell based in the Midlands emerged as suspects behind the outrage.

They are Muslim extremists — yet the bombs aimed to deal out death and injury indiscriminately to people of ALL faiths.

The gang — mostly ex-students in their 20s — have had their homes watched for months, but there has not been enough evidence to arrest them.

Intelligence agents have monitored calls between members and al-Qaeda in Afghanistan.

A US security source said: “The suspected cell is not the only one being looked at but is one of the most serious lines of inquiry. The suspects are British — disaffected graduates who graduated in the UK, then went to Islamic schools in Pakistan, near the Afghan border.”

Security services tried to locate the gang yesterday but it is understood not all could be found.

Terror expert Professor Michael Clarke, of King’s College London, said planting a string of bombs would require a cell of at least 18 to 20 people.

Foreign Secretary Jack Straw said at the G8 summit last night the bombings had “the hallmarks of an al-Qaeda-related attack”.

NO warnings were given, and the TIMING came as massive security was concentrated on the G8 summit, with 1,500 Scotland Yard cops drafted to Edinburgh. And public transport was the ultra-soft TARGET — just as when al-Qaeda attacked Madrid last year.

A European wing of the evil empire claimed repsonsibility for the attack in a sick boast on the internet.

The group — calling itself the Secret Organization Group of al-Qaeda of Jihad Organization in Europe — called the bombers “heroic” and demanded troops be withdrawn from Iraq and Afghanistan.

It ranted: “We have repeatedly warned the British Government and people. We have fulfilled our promise and carried out our blessed military raid in Britain after our mujahidin exerted strenuous efforts over a long period to ensure success of the raid.

“He who warns is excused.”

The website is believed to be run by a bin Laden associate based in London, with links to Abu Dhabi.

Radical Muslim cleric Sheik Omar Bakri issued a chilling warning three months ago that a European wing of al-Qaeda was preparing to attack London.

The sheik told a Portugese magazine: “One very well organised group in London has a great appeal for young Muslims. I know that they are ready to launch a big operation. It is inevitable.”

He added: “We don’t make a distinction between civilians and non-civilians, innocents and non-innocents, only between Muslims and unbelievers. And the life of an unbeliever has no value, no sanctity.”

The blitz came after the terror threat level in the capital had been downgraded. There are three levels set by MI5 and MI6 based on intelligence at home and abroad.

Level One is “imminent”. Level Two is “severe/general” — which London had been under since 9/11 attacks and during the General Election.

But since the election the threat was downgraded to Level Three — “significant/serious”.


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quote ‘every person in his right mind should condemn these acts of violence directed against innocent civilians ….there is no justification for such acts, not in my qur`an, not in my culture’ end quote...plus the rest of ur post.

temporal...i cudnt have said it better...it makes me cry and worried sick to see before my eyes a world full of hate and fear bred by believers of my own faith...this is not the world i want to raise my baby in but i dont have much choice do i?

may be my parents taught me a different Quran...a different islam?

(long post)

miriam:

jack of the beat generation?...what has he got to do with this?...no don’t answer;)...khair

as i told abskii on UP earlier: ‘every person in his right mind should condemn these acts of violence directed against innocent civilians ….there is no justification for such acts, not in my qur`an, not in my culture’

and as i have asked repeatedly those who profess piety and righteous indignation…show me where in the qur’an it condones suicide bombing…in vain!...just as hamid mir, pakistani tv host and journalist who last interviewed mr…..notice mr.?....osama bin laden and his deputy the same question… and both took hours to answer but were unable to offer a simple convincing quote from the qur’an supporting or even condoning suicide attacks…for yara it is not there!

…these wannabee guardians of my/our islam convince the world they represent the 1.5 billion….that is 1,5000,000,000 billion muslims…not so…not so…they merely play into the hands of neoconzix

laikin yara who listens to you or me?...

…we are the voice in the wilderness…talking peace…yelling this is not our islam…but i also recognize that we are yelling in the emptiness of the desert…the faith we are inadvertently born into hijacked by a jaahil…but vociferous and unrelenting bunch of vested regressive group…they fight their violent fights over the shoulders of the silent majority…

...in the end it is our shoulder they use
…in the end it is our fight
….in the end kiddo, it is you and me …and millions like us…do we have a choice?....what are our options?...how to turn the tide of 1500 years of regression…

weighty questions that ours and subsequent generations of muslims have to answer…we have no choice…either the silent majority stands up and reclaims…or perish!

…in the end we have to stand and be counted or acquiesce with the regressionary forces and perish…

…the mirror can be cruel…where do we stand?

lve

t

Jawahara:

kahaan ghayab ho?

peace?

hmmmm…am modest…will settle for pursuit of peace…

cayenne:

yaar bhai bol kay you are tying my hands...suffice it to say that if another human being is distraught i would help first ask questions later...

t

t…thank you for writing this. am here…reading…listening…while the “fragmenting” continues. another day and another tale? a deadly cocktail of dogma and madness? business as usual? religion of peace? and i suppose if i’m a really good girl, that and a few dollars will buy me a cup of latte.

and when all is said and done i would like to believe jack (as in kerouac):

Wild men
Who kill
Have Karmas
Of ill

rgds
miriam

got home few minutes back...took me a long time today...and may those bastards who did this roast in hell. I am tired and if I see them bombers and planners in front me I will do the turds in....slowly roasting them like little suckling pigs...and hear them squeel with great glee

Temporal bhai...i hope you can rustle up accomodation for your fellow countrymen who are gonna be thrown out of the Uk very soon.Unfortunate, but they will be fallout victims of the heinous act committed by the terrorists.Just as it happened in the US after 9/11.I saw , on tv, the G8 plus five leaders standing in solidarity with Blair.And, our very own Manmohan was there standing next to Putin.Manmohanji , i bet, is gonna be talking about Ayodhya with Bush and the others.Watch and see.Or, even better, claim some relation in India , get a visa and get outta there as fast as you can.I try!!.

Good to see your poetry here. I like this a lot:

and today`s mourning*
in the wake of
yesterday`s jubilation*
sad number`s game

Very well put.

Peace,

J