The Last Moments of Zulfikar Ali Bhutto

I`m a Brit born Pak. And it never amazes me how a large proportion of Pakistani`s sit back and watch political figures rape the country. As long as a few pennies come their way, they dont mind seeing billions stolen from Pakistan. Bhutto and his offspring as well as Nawaz Sharif are the reason why Pakistan is still a third world country. Votes are brought for a cup of tea... then the people complain when IMF loans have to be paid back which means a rise in taxes. The PPP should be renamed the PRP - well they`d like to get in power again so they can rape Pakistan once more... The disgusting thing is a large proportion of the country take part in this `rape` by supporting them. India is a super power now - yet the super rich of Pakistan are but the politicians who are trying to get their `dirty legs over` once again....

Salam,
I am Sarfaraz Ahmed from Bangladesh. Its sad that the way Bhutto died shouldnt be the way and in fact I too beleive he was framed of the charges. But having said that, I beleive he has paid with his life for separating the 2 pakistans in 1971.

Sarfaraz

true or not.....the fact that he was hanged after an unfair trail.....was horrible...and they saked him and tied him as if to get rid of him in a hurry......
but miss benazi deserves to be hanged alot more then her pa.....and unfrotumately she is all free......
colors of life

Re: # 34
What are you an idiot. Suffered enough. They should all be brought out on the atreets and pissed upon before being shot - you idiot

I am glad that he died. He was a great politician but him and his family to this day has done nothing but bankrupt Pakistan and its poor people. The only thing that worries me is that his daughter and her husband and children are still there. An until they decide never to come in politics again, this country will always be under a big risk.

regardless of his political views (supposedly socialist, although he was never atempted to disown the feudalistic spirit in him), his ulterior motives, and other flaws that people saw in him as a politician or a person, this account of his last days does provoke a certain humane sympathy inside me. Somehow or the other it was the anticipation of death that makes it so moving and scary, and its easy to say that ``Bhutto was hanged`` but to actually delve into the gory details is something else. Its always a prisoner`s anticipation of death-the feeling that he is going to die soon, is the thing that makes it this way. for example had he been shot directly without him knowing it, or plainly murdered without his knowledge, it wouldnt have been scary in the way it was now.
I found this piece to be quite interesting.

Mukhlis: thanks for your feedback. As for mujiburrehman, an unflattering personal aspect was identified while he was in custody after the agartala conspiracy: the jailor said they asked him if he wanted in newspapers etc. to read while in custody. mujib asked for a pack of cards to while away his time, and would play with one of the jailors.

to me he was one of the best polition of the world of his time...
--Mannan

Re: #19 by tahmed32

What you describe here might very well be true. The author does state in the book that he`s witholding some information in ``national interest``. This could be the info. he`s not revealing.

Pakistan Army does have a penchant for mistreating, hitting and abusing political leaders. In his book ``The way it was``, Brig. Z.A. Khan describes how a Pak Army soldier slaps Mujibur Rehman after his house at Dhan Mandi had successfully been raided. There were also reports of roughing up of Nawaz & Shahbaz Sharif during the 12 October 1999 coup.

As Ahmed Faraz has rightly said:

Pesha var qatilo tum sipahi nahin (You are no soldiers, you professional assassins).

34, Son of Owl,
You are so correct. I got sick of the details. It`s one thing to know that a man was murdered - it`s worse to hear the gory details of his suffering. At least, Zia the ba$tard got his in the end.

Is there any point in posting these terrible details?.What are you trying to prove?.Bhutto family has already suffered enough,please don`t add to their miseries.


This place is infested with psychopaths and sadists.Don`t turn it into a political hyde park.

#32 Tahmed

The way I read this article, it’s a simple tabulation of factual events. There seems to be no attempt to push any particular political agenda by the colonel. I personally believe that these details (including your uncorroborated ones) do not contribute anything to history – all they show is an individual flinching in the face of certain death – it happens all the time!

The moronic and numbed mindset that allows these events to take place without questioning or challenging them (and Bhutto’s faults or virtues as a political figure ought to have nothing to do with such a challenge) is what distresses me (and perhaps ought to distress you, too), because of which I sometimes get harsh. That’s all!

I do not reserve this criticism for just Pakistanis (as you seem to imply), rather I apply it generously to the whole subcontinent!!

BJ #31 you write ``What’s the value in releasing the type of information ``

The value is that of letting truth be known. The value is in providing future generations a clearer understanding of history - and know one knows the truth of what happened better than those who were eye-witnesses. So, if there is any doubt that the colonel is not telling the whole truth, then it is important to raise that question as well to help arrive at the truth.

As for how I have changed on chowk over time - that is not important. The relevant thing is what I am specifically saying, not what I am like as a person. As far as I am concerned, all chowkies are good people in real life - loving brothers, sisters, sons, daughters, friends, whatever.

#28 Tahmed

In case I did not make it clear already, I have expressed earlier that Bhutto had some serious flaws – in my view the worst was that having been in a position to make a REAL difference (both internally and externally) he missed out big time and kept the problems around – to ensure personal gain.

Having said all of that, the man is dead. What’s the value in releasing the type of information you did other than to hurt the remaining family members (The counter argument – what’s the value in anything or what’s the value in the article, etc. won’t work. I already said that Col. Rafi should not have written this one.)

I notice that you did a similar thing on an earlier board too (April 5, 2005 (Board: If I am murdered…the ZAB saga!)), even though there you say “…I cant vouch for the accuracy of all this - but coming from two totally independent sources, it seems to carry some truth to it”? Can you be absolutely sure that it happened (and you yourself said no), if the answer is anything other than an unequivocal “yes”, then it must be called hearsay and merely adds to the rumor mill.

Note:
[Always have. Always will.]
This seems to have a familiar ring to it! Good to have sharp eyes – always have, always will!

[…You … simply tell me that I have changed for the worse in the years I have been on chowk.]
Do you disagree? I don’t hear you denying the thrust of that statement!

Flawed genius or not but we Pakistanis know that it is easy to blame Zia for our Islamism but it was really so-called progressive Bhutto who started the slide by banning Qadianis, alcohol and clubs in later part of his not so genius rule....

neeraj1967 #23

`` Mr Bhuto was`a flawed genius,having unbridled ambition.He was extremely hostile towards
India and masterminded the failed adventure of 1965 and the purge in Bangladesh.He had
the intellect to outwit a wily leader like Indira Gandhi during shimla talks and could manage the unconditional release of all the 93,000 pakistani pows.Pakistan owns its nuclear deterrence capabilities to the single minded pursuit of Mr Bhutto.It is a pity that he had to die such a tragic and horrific death. ``

Bhutto may be a giant compared to other Pakistani leaders. That may be a sad reflection on the quality of Pakistani leadership.

Bhutto`s behavior in the Bangladesh crisis is a reflection of the overall West Pakistani elite. If Bhutto was not around the outcome (independent Bangladesh) would still be the same.

Pakistan would have still pursued nukes. Obviously the exact date of the acquisition would have been different.

What is use of feeding 93000 POWs when the 1971 war was over ? They are useless bargaining chips unless you wanted some of them to face war crime tribunals.