London’s Hour of Reckoning

Crocodile tears, Lip service sympathies, Reaction worries, Coup chalkings, .........a LOT of Blah blah this; blah blah that.

Two snakes fighting. One has crooked teeth; the other crooked soul, heart, and mind.

One sowed seeds of hatred in ALL of their former colonies. The other seeps hatred through every pore. Karma has caught up with both of them.

Lets see how much restraint these now `victim` state shows. They urged Israel and India to show restraint after thousands died due to terrorism. Hypocrites!

Every action has an equal and opposite reaction - No matter how hard you pray to Allah.

what is the purpose of this article?

and i very well know what ``jehad`` is. and if jehad is indeed a struggle and an act of internal spiritual cleansing, such cleansing isn`t done the way ``islamist`` groups have been working it in london, in new york, in africa, in india, in iraq, in pakistan and elsewhere i have neglected to mention.

you might want to emphasize what ``jehad`` is not just to the ``evil west`` but to your ``saintly co-religionists`` as well. . . brother. you certainly aren`t doing that here.

meanwhile, there are more of us within the west and without who with conscience remind ``the west`` that they cannot continue to repeat their blood-splattering history in this world. unfortunately that gets forgotten much too often when people want to tar the west, and talk about london`s ``day of reckoning``. . . poor choice.

apologies. . ``hour of reckoning``

Kaura,

Remember when Indira Gandhi was assisinated! What Karm had the poor Sikhs of Dehli done to be murdered in cold blood by the angry Hindu mobs? No matter how many times they did mattha Thek in front of Granth Sahib, What in the karmah `caught up` with them?
Granted, these two snakes are very evil, but its going to be innocent ppl who are going to get hurt in the crossfire!!!

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About the fallout, does anyone think that the average `gora` can really tell the difference between Ali, Ashish, or Amandeep?

I agree with Ana on this one....unless this is a satire on Echoboom`s florid prose, its in really bad taste.

check out www.democracynow.org for today`s interviews with George Galloway...a fitting antidote to straw man arguments.

#4, ally,


My interaction was incomplete. i tried to sum up what I wrote yesterday on the UP. I am not talking about innocent folks/individuals.........I was talking about British as in state/nation/empire. same for muslims.......those who support the policies are equally guilty.

``this World is a Trajedy. Life IS cruel. Modernism has woven an illusionary and unrealistic concept of reality for most. Thus, the WHY???

I sympathize for innocent individual human loss and suffering only - who become non participant victims.``


there are other posts on the topic I couldn`t find. if you read em all, you will get the complete picture I am trying to portray.



Regarding 84 riots and the sikh victims.....I blame the sikhs (as a nation, not individuals) for their misery .

#4 by ally on July 8, 2005 9:27am PT


About the fallout, does anyone think that the average `gora` can really tell the difference between Ali, Ashish, or Amandeep?


Maybe brit-pakis should wear t-shirts with Indian flags...

Heh, heh, what can one say to such a loser?

[quote]
Yearnings of harmony will be ill-gratified until a resolutely genuine peace process graces the Middle East.
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So let me understand this: it is OK to kill innocent civilians everywhere because there is a territorial dispute in the middle-east? Boy, what an ugly human being you are, loser Khalid.

Re: # 4

``About the fallout, does anyone think that the average `gora` can really tell the difference between Ali, Ashish, or Amandeep? ``

Recently there has been a drive among people from Indian sub-continent in U.K. to distance themselves from others. British Hindus/Indians and sikhs want a different identity which will distance themselves from Pakistani/Bangladeshi Muslims. They don`t want all of them to be clubbed together as ``Asians``.

Re: # 4

Nice try!!.If you live in the Uk, sell the family silver , pack your bags and get outta there.If you don`t, then help someone do it by communicating.We Americans talk tough , but are softies.The British are dangerous bastards.Now that the shit has hit the fan in their own backyard, watch what is gonna happen to muslims in Britain.Don`t tell me i didn`t warn you.

cayenne is used for good purposes as well, not for being so strongly (and maliciously) mirchi all the time.

where`s the good purpose here?

Ozer:

All these dire predictions! Relax, your fanny is safe. None of this stuff is going to happen, you are lucky enough to be located in a civilized country where the law and order system is still functional.

The main question from individuals like you is as follows:

WHAT THE HECK ARE YOU DOING ABOUT IT?

(And no, sitting in that cushy chair and typing away to fellow chowkies ain’t the correct answer!)

Here are a few suggestions:

(1) Get your rear out of here and get involved in relief operations.

(2) Get involved in inter-community networking efforts.

(3) Snitch, snitch, and snitch! If that guy looks suspicious to you from your vantage point, maybe he can be as hurtful to you as to the rest of the crowds.

(4) Tone down on this “Us Muslims vs. the Big Bad Wolf” stuff you guys (and gals) are so fond of doing, and think of yourselves as citizens of wherever you live – fully functioning citizens, none of this ghetto mentality!

In other words, less words, more action! They always speak louder. (I know it’s an alien concept for some in this crowd.)

(Oh well, I got to return to the broom now.)

Note:

[Yet vitriol from the pulpits of the British Nationalist Party (BNP) and other fallow purveyors of hate will garner fanciful anti-Quranic fairytales.]
Vitriol is a fact of life. The antidote is not counter-vitriol or cowering, but reaching out in ways not done before – not to the vitriolic crowds, but to those who are (as yet) untouched!

if ``freedom is an inalienable right`` then perhaps you should be telling this to musharaff. or to the arab terrorists. brits dont need lessons on freedom from muslims.

also, the immediate reaction of too many pakistanis on chowk (including unplugged) has been this whining about their new-found ``inalienable rights`` in the west - and too little concern for the evil that was inflicted on peaceful office goers in London yesterday.

Re: # 11
The `good purpose` here is to advice and warn of the inevitable.My good friend , a pak, was picked up from his workplace and put on a plane and sent back to pakland in 2002.I will not say more out of consideration for my friend.When pak`s went to register themsleves prior to the Apr 13 deadline in the US, many were deported.This WILL happen in the UK too.The Brits have done it throughout their history.What`s new now?.Inalienable rights?.Phooey!.Everything is a scam, some are legal and some aren`t.So, also , laws.They can be changed overnight.Why ask me about `good purpose`?.Ask your fellow countrymen first.

mirchi:

we all need to find the good purpose within ourselves. you, me, everyone.

enough said.

Re: # 2

Ana

You might be cognizant of Jehad but many Chowkies have a flawed understanding of this spiritual precept. TERROR-MONGERS and mischief-makers always distort the `essence` of jehad, irrespective of their political ethnic or religious spectra.

The most arduously attained is `Jehad of the Nafs` (soul cleansing). The concept of Dharma in Hinduism `an application of good conscience` can be equated to Jehad of the nafs.

Blinkered eyes conveniently neglect the blood-splattering history of other calamitous trouble-makers. True justice should always be race, colour and religion-blind.