Pervez Hoodbhoy July 8, 2005
#110 Posted by premwalla on July 21, 2005 2:30:37 pm
#109, Che,
You shouldn`t have included Peshawar or Kohat in that list. :) They prefer Shah Rukh Khan.
Also, where the hell is Charsadda?
You shouldn`t have included Peshawar or Kohat in that list. :) They prefer Shah Rukh Khan.
Also, where the hell is Charsadda?
#109 Posted by CheGuevara on July 21, 2005 2:03:45 pm
Now tell me which picture would your average teenager in Lahore, Faisalabad, Gujranwala, Peshawar Kohat or Charsadda be found jerking off to?
#108 Posted by CheGuevara on July 21, 2005 1:43:30 pm
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#107 Posted by Romair on July 21, 2005 8:10:19 am
Shankar #103: Don’t quite your day job. You have no future as a comedian…………Leave that to the professionals like hamidm………..
“You guys HIT first....& THINK later!!!!”
Anyone who has figured out this characteristic has figured out Pakistanis. Considering the fact that Pathans and Baluchis are even more off the scale, on the above characteristics, than Punjabis, this is our defining quality. Pakistanis act first and think later. It is embedded deep into our genes. This is why the world is (perhaps quite rightly) scared of us having nuclear weapons. This is also why we are the only country, in the world, that is not scared to go toe-to-toe with a neighbour eight times our size.
This is also why we make bad businessmen and salesmen, and have absolutely no chance at becoming scientists)………
Asking someone from Pakistan to become a scientist is a like asking a girl from Bombay to become a super-model. Or like asking an African-American why he is Black. It isn’t as if he turned Black overnight. One has to go back tens of generations to figure out why he is Black. Much like one has to go back tens of generations to figure out why the Bombay lady cannot be a model……Similarly one has to go back, generations, to figure out why Pakistanis cannot study science……….
The areas of Pakistan (barring the freakish coincidence of Abdus Salam) have not produced any scientists over the past thousands of years. Even Arabs – who cannot, today, walk straight and chew gum at the same time – have produced so many scientists in their history. But how many Punjabi, Baluchi, Sindhi, or Pathan (or Kashmiri) scientist can one name, starting from the time of Alexander till today? Other than musical instruments what have they invented?
This is why I think Hoodbhoy is going to be frustrated in Pakistan. He is trying to preach science to people, who act first and think later. And who, generationally, have been more interested in having a good time and good food, than in having a good particle accelerator……..
“You guys HIT first....& THINK later!!!!”
Anyone who has figured out this characteristic has figured out Pakistanis. Considering the fact that Pathans and Baluchis are even more off the scale, on the above characteristics, than Punjabis, this is our defining quality. Pakistanis act first and think later. It is embedded deep into our genes. This is why the world is (perhaps quite rightly) scared of us having nuclear weapons. This is also why we are the only country, in the world, that is not scared to go toe-to-toe with a neighbour eight times our size.
This is also why we make bad businessmen and salesmen, and have absolutely no chance at becoming scientists)………
Asking someone from Pakistan to become a scientist is a like asking a girl from Bombay to become a super-model. Or like asking an African-American why he is Black. It isn’t as if he turned Black overnight. One has to go back tens of generations to figure out why he is Black. Much like one has to go back tens of generations to figure out why the Bombay lady cannot be a model……Similarly one has to go back, generations, to figure out why Pakistanis cannot study science……….
The areas of Pakistan (barring the freakish coincidence of Abdus Salam) have not produced any scientists over the past thousands of years. Even Arabs – who cannot, today, walk straight and chew gum at the same time – have produced so many scientists in their history. But how many Punjabi, Baluchi, Sindhi, or Pathan (or Kashmiri) scientist can one name, starting from the time of Alexander till today? Other than musical instruments what have they invented?
This is why I think Hoodbhoy is going to be frustrated in Pakistan. He is trying to preach science to people, who act first and think later. And who, generationally, have been more interested in having a good time and good food, than in having a good particle accelerator……..
#106 Posted by rumpus on July 21, 2005 4:18:29 am
re 104.
cutehumna, you`re such an idiot that it`s amusing. ``urs`` is not a word, it`s yours; besides what you meant to say was your and not ``yours``. i take your comparison to dr. hoodbhoy as a compliment! maybe you should check out this ashram mentioned in post 105 so while it might not improve your academic skills, it might help you loosen up some!
cutehumna, you`re such an idiot that it`s amusing. ``urs`` is not a word, it`s yours; besides what you meant to say was your and not ``yours``. i take your comparison to dr. hoodbhoy as a compliment! maybe you should check out this ashram mentioned in post 105 so while it might not improve your academic skills, it might help you loosen up some!
#105 Posted by cayenne on July 21, 2005 2:14:59 am
Re: # 100
Spend a week in the Osho ashram in Pune, Maharashtra, India, started by the infamous Bhagwan Rajneesh.No ugly people here, healthy food, good music, central air and GREAT SEX!!!.You`re too late.The OSHO ashram is alive and thriving long after it`s founder has departed.Long live the open society of India, where MAD swamis,mullahs and fathers(priests) coexist with hippies,society witches,gay bollywood actors, accountants and politicians. Jai Hind.
Spend a week in the Osho ashram in Pune, Maharashtra, India, started by the infamous Bhagwan Rajneesh.No ugly people here, healthy food, good music, central air and GREAT SEX!!!.You`re too late.The OSHO ashram is alive and thriving long after it`s founder has departed.Long live the open society of India, where MAD swamis,mullahs and fathers(priests) coexist with hippies,society witches,gay bollywood actors, accountants and politicians. Jai Hind.
#104 Posted by cutehumna on July 20, 2005 11:51:39 pm
Intolerance, impatience and low temperament are the qualities that come with ageing. Perhaps “rumpus” is undergoing this process. The high BP is not good for health so reduce the contents of sodium salt in urs diet.
It seems that “rumpus” and “Hoodbhoy” are mirror images of each other. In my opinion this discussion is quite useless and just wastage of time.
It seems that “rumpus” and “Hoodbhoy” are mirror images of each other. In my opinion this discussion is quite useless and just wastage of time.
#103 Posted by shankar on July 20, 2005 4:55:03 pm
Re: # 97
My dear cousin (5000 times removed),
As they say in Shiv Sena land; Bombay (where I am spending 3 weeks currently)
AICHI GAAND!!!
{{Hoodbhoy is actually a bania. Which is why he is so frustrated amongst us (I am using, “us,” since Punjabi is my mother tongue also) ignorant Punjabis. No Punjabi (barring a microscopic minority) has enough brains to do a Ph.D. }}
Actually, Hoodbhoy talks like a bloomin` Parsi in India.
Those bloomin` shameless anglophilic bawas will curse each & every thing about India....
but will they ever leave India?!.....
noooooooo!!
those mofos live like lords in Bombay (most of them) & call Indians ``natives`` (er...behind their backs; ofcourse)....
if those snobs werent the geniouses they actually are; I would have actively petitioned that neo-nazi moron Maratha Balasaheb Thackrey to have his Shiv Sena goondas ethnically cleanse those bugger refugees from Persia back to their ``homeland`` England!
HEH HEH!!!
I`ll bet you Mohammed Ali Jinnah was culturally more like a Parsi than a bloomin` ``regular`` katlu....ie more British than the British!
Poor Cowasjee believed in the Pakistan of Jinnah`s vision....only to have have it crashed by the GREATEST & BEST export that India has given Pakistan
the Deobandhi brand of Katlus from Lucknow!
Between those chuts, the Barevelis, the Naqsbandhis , the Goddamned Wahabi imports of Saudi land & other assorted Sunni idiots, Pakistan has become ``Jihad Central``.....no matter how much spin doctoring Mushy & his protege Umair Raja justify it otherwise.
Poor senile Cowasjee, all he can do is whine how screwed up Karachi is; like his bawa cohorts whine about Bombay.
{{Punjabis rely on their good looks and social skills, and not on their brains, to get ahead in life. And their interests lie in good food, and not in good science. The better looking people are the less they need to study. This is the rule of history.}}
Nice spin; butthead!
Yo! munda!!
Get some brains FIRST; THEN talk!:))
One more thing; youre women look REAL cute when they are young....
but once they land a hubby, they let their figures go...& become cute, FAT, New Jersey cows!
I hope Pathan women are little better--in that regard!
BTW,Saala gandu; Mr Butt Fakhr; tu Punjabi kab bangaya!!!?
All this time you proudly claimed to be a Kashmiri katlu of Azaaaaaaaad Kashmir!
Sounds like you become a Kashmiri when it suits you...
& Punjabi when it suits you.....
To paraphrase Seinfeld; you SOB Kashmiri katlus become Punjabis JUST FOR THE JOKES!!
But I`ll hand it to you...the metaphorical DICKS of Punjabi men (euphemism for ``pride``) are bigger than the bloomin` Kutb Minar & so hard that you can pound nails with them.
OK OK dhullabhatti or Tauheed saheb & other Punjabi brothern of mine,
I know generalisations are odious...
...so dont take offense...maybe you guys are exceptions to the rule
but what is it about Punjabi men??? (religion doesnt seem to have any effect on this characteristic)
You guys HIT first....
& THINK later!!!!
With all humility; you should be like us humble Saraswat Brahmins...beauty AND brains in the same mug!
...Now be good boys and pickup my bucket of nightsoil...
PRONTO!!!!
PS:
The only people who are more IDIOTIC than Punjabis are these Mirpuri/Punjabi/ Rajputi/Kashmiri katlus from Azaaaaaad Kashmiri!
When blowing up Hindian soldiers in ``enslaved`` Kashmiri doesnt work....
they blow up Brits in Englistan!!
Nice going; ustaaads!
My dear cousin (5000 times removed),
As they say in Shiv Sena land; Bombay (where I am spending 3 weeks currently)
AICHI GAAND!!!
{{Hoodbhoy is actually a bania. Which is why he is so frustrated amongst us (I am using, “us,” since Punjabi is my mother tongue also) ignorant Punjabis. No Punjabi (barring a microscopic minority) has enough brains to do a Ph.D. }}
Actually, Hoodbhoy talks like a bloomin` Parsi in India.
Those bloomin` shameless anglophilic bawas will curse each & every thing about India....
but will they ever leave India?!.....
noooooooo!!
those mofos live like lords in Bombay (most of them) & call Indians ``natives`` (er...behind their backs; ofcourse)....
if those snobs werent the geniouses they actually are; I would have actively petitioned that neo-nazi moron Maratha Balasaheb Thackrey to have his Shiv Sena goondas ethnically cleanse those bugger refugees from Persia back to their ``homeland`` England!
HEH HEH!!!
I`ll bet you Mohammed Ali Jinnah was culturally more like a Parsi than a bloomin` ``regular`` katlu....ie more British than the British!
Poor Cowasjee believed in the Pakistan of Jinnah`s vision....only to have have it crashed by the GREATEST & BEST export that India has given Pakistan
the Deobandhi brand of Katlus from Lucknow!
Between those chuts, the Barevelis, the Naqsbandhis , the Goddamned Wahabi imports of Saudi land & other assorted Sunni idiots, Pakistan has become ``Jihad Central``.....no matter how much spin doctoring Mushy & his protege Umair Raja justify it otherwise.
Poor senile Cowasjee, all he can do is whine how screwed up Karachi is; like his bawa cohorts whine about Bombay.
{{Punjabis rely on their good looks and social skills, and not on their brains, to get ahead in life. And their interests lie in good food, and not in good science. The better looking people are the less they need to study. This is the rule of history.}}
Nice spin; butthead!
Yo! munda!!
Get some brains FIRST; THEN talk!:))
One more thing; youre women look REAL cute when they are young....
but once they land a hubby, they let their figures go...& become cute, FAT, New Jersey cows!
I hope Pathan women are little better--in that regard!
BTW,Saala gandu; Mr Butt Fakhr; tu Punjabi kab bangaya!!!?
All this time you proudly claimed to be a Kashmiri katlu of Azaaaaaaaad Kashmir!
Sounds like you become a Kashmiri when it suits you...
& Punjabi when it suits you.....
To paraphrase Seinfeld; you SOB Kashmiri katlus become Punjabis JUST FOR THE JOKES!!
But I`ll hand it to you...the metaphorical DICKS of Punjabi men (euphemism for ``pride``) are bigger than the bloomin` Kutb Minar & so hard that you can pound nails with them.
OK OK dhullabhatti or Tauheed saheb & other Punjabi brothern of mine,
I know generalisations are odious...
...so dont take offense...maybe you guys are exceptions to the rule
but what is it about Punjabi men??? (religion doesnt seem to have any effect on this characteristic)
You guys HIT first....
& THINK later!!!!
With all humility; you should be like us humble Saraswat Brahmins...beauty AND brains in the same mug!
...Now be good boys and pickup my bucket of nightsoil...
PRONTO!!!!
PS:
The only people who are more IDIOTIC than Punjabis are these Mirpuri/Punjabi/ Rajputi/Kashmiri katlus from Azaaaaaad Kashmiri!
When blowing up Hindian soldiers in ``enslaved`` Kashmiri doesnt work....
they blow up Brits in Englistan!!
Nice going; ustaaads!
#101 Posted by atif2 on July 20, 2005 2:06:55 pm
Romair # 97 - Indeed, good looks are inversely proportional to the number of degrees collected.
The relationship I mentioned above is the only thing I remember from my calculus class (or was it culculus? ).
And hence my good looks.
The relationship I mentioned above is the only thing I remember from my calculus class (or was it culculus? ).
And hence my good looks.
#100 Posted by Romair on July 20, 2005 1:46:15 pm
dullahbhatti/tahmad#: Good music, Good food, Good clothes, Good looks and Good air-conditioning (not necessarily in that order) are the five essentials of life. I am seriously thinking of starting a religion, which will only allow people who have, and appreciate the above, to join...........No ugly people, who dress funny, eat smelly food and can`t dance will be allowed into the religion...........
If one has the above five, one will be happy, with or without a Van de Graaf decelerator or accelerator. Amongst South Asians, Punjabis have the best music. They have the best food. They have the best clothes. And they have the second-best looks (behind Pathans). The only thing they don`t have is good air-conditioning, because they aren`t intelligent enough to understand how it can be built.......
Four out of five ain`t bad..............
So, if the accelerator/decelator can improve provide me with better air-conditioning, I am interested. Otherwise, bring on the Multani halwa tay Phajjay day payee and turn on Daler Mehndi..........
If one has the above five, one will be happy, with or without a Van de Graaf decelerator or accelerator. Amongst South Asians, Punjabis have the best music. They have the best food. They have the best clothes. And they have the second-best looks (behind Pathans). The only thing they don`t have is good air-conditioning, because they aren`t intelligent enough to understand how it can be built.......
Four out of five ain`t bad..............
So, if the accelerator/decelator can improve provide me with better air-conditioning, I am interested. Otherwise, bring on the Multani halwa tay Phajjay day payee and turn on Daler Mehndi..........
#99 Posted by dullabhatti on July 20, 2005 11:36:53 am
hahaha...romair that was good....I mean sarcastic and humorous.
The ztv`s Punjabi channel Alpha-Punjabi has just started broadcasting in US and I am getting it for free for 2 weeks...I love it..it is all in Punjabi..it is all about 2 things...Bhangra/nachna/gaana and food. I was talkign to a relatie lady on this and I said they should have some good Punjabi serials on this channel to make it more addictive..she said not really....for that we have regular ZTV.
Also, what do Punjabis talk about after eating dinner? about breakfast.
Our women are obsessed with clothing....I calculated that my last trip to India we spent 50% of our time and 80% of our money on shopping for one woman (you can guess who she is)...when I pointed that out she was...like..main kehRa roz jaani aan India.
The ztv`s Punjabi channel Alpha-Punjabi has just started broadcasting in US and I am getting it for free for 2 weeks...I love it..it is all in Punjabi..it is all about 2 things...Bhangra/nachna/gaana and food. I was talkign to a relatie lady on this and I said they should have some good Punjabi serials on this channel to make it more addictive..she said not really....for that we have regular ZTV.
Also, what do Punjabis talk about after eating dinner? about breakfast.
Our women are obsessed with clothing....I calculated that my last trip to India we spent 50% of our time and 80% of our money on shopping for one woman (you can guess who she is)...when I pointed that out she was...like..main kehRa roz jaani aan India.
#98 Posted by tahmed32 on July 20, 2005 11:31:51 am
Romair: I see that you have written a provocative post - chowk staff dont pay you for writing provocative posts I hope (i.e. to stir up a discussion). :-)
#97 Posted by Romair on July 20, 2005 10:54:59 am
Bhatti Saab #92: “and Hoodbhoy is not even a bania.....or is he”
A man was walking on a hot dusty dirty road, in Punjab. At a distance, he saw a lone berry tree. He walked up to the tree and saw a young Punjabi man, wearing just an underwear, who had climbed onto the tree, and was eating berries, without a worry in the world. The man asked, “What are you doing?” The underwear-clad Punjabi guy on the tree, eating berries, replied,
“Badshaho; Zindagi dae doe hee shauk unn; changaa khaana, tay, changaa paana”
Hoodbhoy is actually a bania. Which is why he is so frustrated amongst us (I am using, “us,” since Punjabi is my mother tongue also) ignorant Punjabis. No Punjabi (barring a microscopic minority) has enough brains to do a Ph.D. They (we) don’t know one end of a Van de Graaf accelerator from another. For every Punjabi Arfa who has cleared the MCSE exam, at the young age of 9, there are a thousand Punjabi Arifs, who have been unable to clear it by the age of 39; even after multiple attempts. So they (we) just get a high-school diploma and behave like we have a Ph.D.
Punjabis rely on their good looks and social skills, and not on their brains, to get ahead in life. And their interests lie in good food, and not in good science. The better looking people are the less they need to study. This is the rule of history. How many degrees do Paris Hilton and Tom Cruise have? This is my theory on why South Indians have so many degrees. North Indians have far fewer. Pakistanis have hardly any. And Afghanis have none.
So the HEC is wasting its time trying to invest in S&T. No one in Pakistan has any interest in that. Now, if they were to invest in good Punjabi food. like Nihari, Sri Payee, Mughz,, Biryani, Mithay Chaawal, Karahi Gosht, and Kapooray, people in Pindi and Lahore would take interest.
Hoodbhoy was born on the wrong side of the border. I see nothing, but a life of frustration for him, in Punjab. And even more frustration for him in NWFP, Sind and Baluchistan. His ideas are more suitable and will find more appeal in Karnatka and Kerala. Punjabis are more interested in, “Changaa khana, tay, changa paana.” As long as one has good food, good clothes, and good friends (who are willing to unconditionally help you cheat on any exam), what does one need particle accelerators and cutting-edge biomolecular chemistry for!!
A man was walking on a hot dusty dirty road, in Punjab. At a distance, he saw a lone berry tree. He walked up to the tree and saw a young Punjabi man, wearing just an underwear, who had climbed onto the tree, and was eating berries, without a worry in the world. The man asked, “What are you doing?” The underwear-clad Punjabi guy on the tree, eating berries, replied,
“Badshaho; Zindagi dae doe hee shauk unn; changaa khaana, tay, changaa paana”
Hoodbhoy is actually a bania. Which is why he is so frustrated amongst us (I am using, “us,” since Punjabi is my mother tongue also) ignorant Punjabis. No Punjabi (barring a microscopic minority) has enough brains to do a Ph.D. They (we) don’t know one end of a Van de Graaf accelerator from another. For every Punjabi Arfa who has cleared the MCSE exam, at the young age of 9, there are a thousand Punjabi Arifs, who have been unable to clear it by the age of 39; even after multiple attempts. So they (we) just get a high-school diploma and behave like we have a Ph.D.
Punjabis rely on their good looks and social skills, and not on their brains, to get ahead in life. And their interests lie in good food, and not in good science. The better looking people are the less they need to study. This is the rule of history. How many degrees do Paris Hilton and Tom Cruise have? This is my theory on why South Indians have so many degrees. North Indians have far fewer. Pakistanis have hardly any. And Afghanis have none.
So the HEC is wasting its time trying to invest in S&T. No one in Pakistan has any interest in that. Now, if they were to invest in good Punjabi food. like Nihari, Sri Payee, Mughz,, Biryani, Mithay Chaawal, Karahi Gosht, and Kapooray, people in Pindi and Lahore would take interest.
Hoodbhoy was born on the wrong side of the border. I see nothing, but a life of frustration for him, in Punjab. And even more frustration for him in NWFP, Sind and Baluchistan. His ideas are more suitable and will find more appeal in Karnatka and Kerala. Punjabis are more interested in, “Changaa khana, tay, changa paana.” As long as one has good food, good clothes, and good friends (who are willing to unconditionally help you cheat on any exam), what does one need particle accelerators and cutting-edge biomolecular chemistry for!!
#96 Posted by CheGuevara on July 20, 2005 7:09:18 am
Re: # 84
Its true believers like these that make me want to get out of this country and never look back.
Its true believers like these that make me want to get out of this country and never look back.
#95 Posted by cayenne on July 20, 2005 12:57:30 am
A country that cannot supply the needs of its` citizens should stop acting as if it is somebody and get real.If you guys cannot produce your daily groceries why even think about education reform??.Put your house in order first, stop acting as if you matter, and then rejoin the community of nations as a responsible member!!.......
ISLAMABAD, July 19: The import of five essential items from India allowed in the first week of May has not materialized even after the passage of 75 days and prices of some of these items have almost doubled since.
Informed sources told Dawn on Tuesday that New Delhi was unwilling to facilitate the import unless Islamabad granted it transit facility to export Indian products to Afghanistan through land route.
So far, only 200 heads of livestock through land route to Lahore and about 60 containers of beef and mutton through ships to Karachi have been imported, said Economic Adviser to Prime Minister Dr Ashfaq Hassan Khan.
The import of the rest of items like onion, potato, tomato and garlic has not taken place so far. As a result, the potato prices have increased from Rs15 per kg in May to Rs40-45 per kg now. The prices of garlic have increased to Rs90-100 per kg against Rs40-42 per kg in May.
However, the prices of tomato and onions have either stabilized or slightly reduced.
When asked whether more than 150 animals being imported by a private party from India had been stuck up at the Wahga border due to quarantine problems, Dr Ashfaq said the first consignment of about 200 animals had reached Pakistan.
He said big hotels in Karachi had already imported in the past few days 60-65 containers of beef and mutton through ships, each containing 11-12 tons of meat. The landed cost of both beef and mutton in Karachi averaged Rs80-82 per kg, he said.
He claimed that these imports had already helped contain the rising trend in meat prices as the average price of mutton had declined from Rs199 per kg to Rs190-195 per kg.
..............................
By-the-by, inflation in India is at 4.33%, considering a billion plus people have to be fed and on the move, a remarkable achevement.Is it by coincidence that we have a PhD/scientist/engineer as our President and a PhD/economist/bureaucrat as our Prime Minister?.Indian politicians should be commended for thinking far beyond their constituencies. And paks wonder why we as a nation are being recognized the world over for our achievements.
http://www.dawn.com/2005/07/20/top4.htm
ISLAMABAD, July 19: The import of five essential items from India allowed in the first week of May has not materialized even after the passage of 75 days and prices of some of these items have almost doubled since.
Informed sources told Dawn on Tuesday that New Delhi was unwilling to facilitate the import unless Islamabad granted it transit facility to export Indian products to Afghanistan through land route.
So far, only 200 heads of livestock through land route to Lahore and about 60 containers of beef and mutton through ships to Karachi have been imported, said Economic Adviser to Prime Minister Dr Ashfaq Hassan Khan.
The import of the rest of items like onion, potato, tomato and garlic has not taken place so far. As a result, the potato prices have increased from Rs15 per kg in May to Rs40-45 per kg now. The prices of garlic have increased to Rs90-100 per kg against Rs40-42 per kg in May.
However, the prices of tomato and onions have either stabilized or slightly reduced.
When asked whether more than 150 animals being imported by a private party from India had been stuck up at the Wahga border due to quarantine problems, Dr Ashfaq said the first consignment of about 200 animals had reached Pakistan.
He said big hotels in Karachi had already imported in the past few days 60-65 containers of beef and mutton through ships, each containing 11-12 tons of meat. The landed cost of both beef and mutton in Karachi averaged Rs80-82 per kg, he said.
He claimed that these imports had already helped contain the rising trend in meat prices as the average price of mutton had declined from Rs199 per kg to Rs190-195 per kg.
..............................
By-the-by, inflation in India is at 4.33%, considering a billion plus people have to be fed and on the move, a remarkable achevement.Is it by coincidence that we have a PhD/scientist/engineer as our President and a PhD/economist/bureaucrat as our Prime Minister?.Indian politicians should be commended for thinking far beyond their constituencies. And paks wonder why we as a nation are being recognized the world over for our achievements.
http://www.dawn.com/2005/07/20/top4.htm
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