Pakistan’s Choice

The U.S offered Indian students X amount of seats to attend M.I.T. Nehru responded by saying that he would prefer that M.I.T, the U.S Government, and the Indian Government, all three band together and create an M.I.T-styled institution in India. The outcome was the Indian Institute of Technology I believe, whose torch-bearers today are people such as Premji and other Indian businessmen.

Pakistan however prefered to utilize the offer in a different manner and just sent a couple of students there, and I do not know what the nature of the selection-process was.

Indians think at least 50 to 100 years in the future.

b-school means business school.

And thank you for the offer of hospitality. Under better circumstances, I`m looking forward to meeting people like nhk, freozek, you and even manto...

RIL and UTI-Mastershares were the pioneers in India. They started the trend of getting people to invest in the share market and mutual funds. Today we have a internnational class stock exchange and 1000s of mutual fund schemes from over 100 companies competing for attention...

Re: # 531

``I do not like to remain hostage to the past.``

Haroon, those are indeed words of deep wisdom.

The other great investment my dad made in my name was to invest in UTI-Mastershares (mutual funds). An extraordinary success story - just like RIL. Damn I feel so rich ;)

Yes Godot, I think there was a massive communication breakdown. Supreme Court has 12 objecitons to Hasba Bill, did you hear about it?

Funny Reliance should get a mention ....my dad bought 250 Reliance Industries Limited (RIL) shares in my name when I was born. Today because of free bonus shares issued by the company over the years , I have today 900+ RIL shares in my name , and so have a personal interest in the RIL story. Now that the company has split , the share value has reached a highest ever of Rs. 750 (more or less) , and looks set to cross Rs.1000.

Yesterday , during the AGM of RIL , Anil Ambani annouced that for every 100 shares of RIL , the share holders will be given 7 shares of REL (Reliance Energy - Rs. 650) , 5 shares of RCL (Reliance Capita - Rs. 470l) and 100 shares of Reliance Communication Futuristics Limited (Rs.40 , I think..the value of this one in particular will jump like crazy by Mar , 2006 when this company will be opened to stock market for trading).

So what my dad bought for a just Rs.5000 odd way back in 1986 is today worth almost Rs.800,000 !!!

Since I dont intend to sell even a single Reliance share until my very last breath , its gonna be really interesting to see how much bigger this investment becomes when I am 30 , 40 , 50 and 60.

#530

yup, mukesh was at UD, bugger doesnt give much money to the school though, just gave a crore once.

Arjun, I actually want you to visit Pakistan and be my guest. Why don`t you consider the offer? As in, for many Indians and American-of-Indian-origin, it`s a once-in-a-life-time-offer.

B-school, meaning Boarding school? I am curious as to where they did their undergraduate from! Reliance has been rated as one of India`s best over 1 billion dollar companies.



Yes Hamdani, that is what I was refering to. And your comment were you accused me of `wreaking havoc in Pakistan` started my retaliatory coments to you. But now it is a closed chapter. I do not like to remain hostage to the past.

says here that Anil Ambani did a Bsc from bombay university....which means he partied in one of the south bombay colleges before he went to wharton.

Says here that Mukesh Ambani did a bachelors in chemical engineering from bombay university(UDCT?!?)

Re: # 513 & 523

Haroon,

Yours, Yasser`s, and my thoughts about Pakistan are quite similar and we are on the same page. I think hostilities expressed were due to miscommunication and frustration. I’m sure you guys are smarter and know better than what appears between you two.

Anyway, you say, ``Pakistan should settle for peace for the next 20 to 25 years in order to make sure it`s own house does not fall apart. Kashmir issue should be revisited when our economic and military muscle is strong enough to convince India to be flexible...``

That is precisely the Indian argument: put Kashmir on the back burner and make it a secondary issue, not a primary one, in India-Pakistan relation. Kashmir will take care of itself once both countries are at peace and are comfortable with each other. You, however, have a motive different than what the Indians are up to. But putting Kashmir on the back burner for now is definitely the way to move forward in relations with India.

Godot...

Don`t know if you check the email you`ve listed on your writers` page...

Please check it if you don`t.

#526

they went to B-school at Stanford and Wharton, but where did they go before that?

It`s ambani... Mukesh Ambani went to stanford and anil ambani went to wharton. They`re both worth around 3 billion $ each.

ArjunM,

This is true. And sadly this mentality has radicalised even the most secular of Pakistani forces- the Pakistan Air Force which once prided itself on being inclusive and secular given the high percentage of christians in its ranks.

The most scared I felt was when I discussed world politics a few years ago with a fighter pilot, who was a senior of mine at PAF College Sargodha... amazingly (and perhaps logically) at PAF College he used to be the most non-nationalist type ... I remember him even saying stuff like ``Partition was wrong`` etc.

3 years ago when I exchanged a couple of emails... this great fighter pilot told me that it was the duty of every Muslim to wage Jehad against all non-Muslims especially America and Israel. I asked him if other fighter Pilots felt that way... he said every single one of them was a true Muslim today...

I tell you the reason for decline was that Zia eradicated Bars from the forces... Exorbitant quantities of Alcohol and some good ol` nationalism kept these gentlemen in line...


Salim,
Agreed.

Haroon,
Feel free to produce the exact post where I supposedly insulted you or Don which elicited his response #20. Unless you are referring to this:

``#10 by Mantolives on July 28, 2005 1:43pm PT
Re: # 9 Well clearly if this is the state of the elite...

Ah well. ``

So I am not supposed to say even that much or else you would jump to personal attacks or justify them?

Did you guy`s hear about the 25,000 karore expanion Reliance Group is doing in it`s Oil Refinery? It will make Reliance Oil Refinery the largest oil refinery in the world!

What do you guys know about the Amdhani family? Which institutions have the two brother attained their degrees from?