Beena Sarwar July 31, 2005
#19 Posted by cayenne on August 1, 2005 11:06:00 am
How about the anguished families of 9/11, mine included, the anguished families of the US naval ship disaster before 9/11, the anguished families of innocent Israelis killed in the intefada, the anguished families of the palestinians killed in the same intefada, the anguished families of innocent indian kashmiris killed by pak trained terrorists, the anguished families of the innocent victims of the london tube blasts.We could go and on , can`t we??.Selective anguish exhibited above.How trite!!!.
#18 Posted by sri on August 1, 2005 10:46:16 am
So Brit pakistanis and their ummah brothers from Sudan CHOOSE to be Namakharamis and all i hear is a whine why their brethen are not more pampered ? May be the Brit tax payers should keep sending Pension checks now....... i suppose the public housing and welfare feeding was not good enough for these apologists to satisfy.
All this makes me feel amazed at the pakistani mentality. In their own country they have completely cleansed hindus half a century ago. But yet they demand their ``human rights`` in other countries.... oh such poor souls. Quite a sense of entitlement.
#17 Posted by premwalla on August 1, 2005 10:28:48 am
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#15 Posted by premwalla on August 1, 2005 9:45:22 am
Beena,
Nice try, but we are back to that ``Terrorism is bad, BUT ...``
For once, let`s stop providing any support to terrorists. There should be no comfort, no ``BUTs`` to qualify or dilute our utter disgust and anger at their actions. The only ``But`` I am willing to consider is ``Terrorism is bad, BUT those who recruit, plan, and dispatch these terrorists are the real bastards.``
We need to completely destroy these killers whereever they strike - Israel, Iraq, Kashmir, SE Asia, UK, Spain, US, and elsewhere. Both Islam and Pakistan are suspect in the eyes of the world for abetting, encouraging, and rewarding terrorists. It`s time to pull a Tally Ban rug out from under them. Go Mushy Go !
Salim
Nice try, but we are back to that ``Terrorism is bad, BUT ...``
For once, let`s stop providing any support to terrorists. There should be no comfort, no ``BUTs`` to qualify or dilute our utter disgust and anger at their actions. The only ``But`` I am willing to consider is ``Terrorism is bad, BUT those who recruit, plan, and dispatch these terrorists are the real bastards.``
We need to completely destroy these killers whereever they strike - Israel, Iraq, Kashmir, SE Asia, UK, Spain, US, and elsewhere. Both Islam and Pakistan are suspect in the eyes of the world for abetting, encouraging, and rewarding terrorists. It`s time to pull a Tally Ban rug out from under them. Go Mushy Go !
Salim
#14 Posted by irfanhamid on August 1, 2005 8:57:08 am
Very well-written article Beena. I do believe this is the first time we`re seeing eye-to-eye on an issue.
I was in the UK from the 13th to the 24th July, and after the 7th and 21st July attempts you can understand how jittery the police (and more so the public) was. On my last day I had to take the London Underground to get to Waterloo and catch the train out of England. I was carrying a backpack, I`m a Pakistani. Everyone around me in the carriage put 2 and 2 together and the game of furtive glances and uneasy fidgeting started. There was a middle-aged lady opposite me who was ostensibly reading a newspaper but obviously watching my every move, her thoughts couldn`t have been more clear; ``is he going to blow us up?``, ``does he have a bomb in there?``, ``should I get off at the next stop and wait for the next train?``. Everyone around me was on the edge of their seats, I could even see a couple of white-knuckled hands grasping knees in a morbid melange of dread and anticipation. Everyone was making a conscious effort not to look directly at me, whether it was the irrational fear of them not wanting to confront/aggravate/precipitate a perceived terrorist or whether it was the fear of exposing the fact that they were afraid of a brown man (and thus being labelled racist in this overly politically correct atmosphere) I will never know. As is my habit whenever I am about to pass an immigration checkpoint, I checked whether my passport and ticket were where I had left them. It was a big mistake, since the moment I opened the outside pocket of my rucksack, everyone stiffened, I stuck my arm in, and I heard the lady directly in front of me gasp. I took my passport out, satisfied that I had it, I tucked it back in. Waterloo station arrived a few seconds later and I got out. The exit was in the direction the Underground was travelling, when the carriage I had been in passed by a few seconds later, I noticed that my single-serving friends were now reclining in their seats, obviously weary from the nerve-wracking ordeal, but relaxed at its uneventful conclusion.
I was in the UK from the 13th to the 24th July, and after the 7th and 21st July attempts you can understand how jittery the police (and more so the public) was. On my last day I had to take the London Underground to get to Waterloo and catch the train out of England. I was carrying a backpack, I`m a Pakistani. Everyone around me in the carriage put 2 and 2 together and the game of furtive glances and uneasy fidgeting started. There was a middle-aged lady opposite me who was ostensibly reading a newspaper but obviously watching my every move, her thoughts couldn`t have been more clear; ``is he going to blow us up?``, ``does he have a bomb in there?``, ``should I get off at the next stop and wait for the next train?``. Everyone around me was on the edge of their seats, I could even see a couple of white-knuckled hands grasping knees in a morbid melange of dread and anticipation. Everyone was making a conscious effort not to look directly at me, whether it was the irrational fear of them not wanting to confront/aggravate/precipitate a perceived terrorist or whether it was the fear of exposing the fact that they were afraid of a brown man (and thus being labelled racist in this overly politically correct atmosphere) I will never know. As is my habit whenever I am about to pass an immigration checkpoint, I checked whether my passport and ticket were where I had left them. It was a big mistake, since the moment I opened the outside pocket of my rucksack, everyone stiffened, I stuck my arm in, and I heard the lady directly in front of me gasp. I took my passport out, satisfied that I had it, I tucked it back in. Waterloo station arrived a few seconds later and I got out. The exit was in the direction the Underground was travelling, when the carriage I had been in passed by a few seconds later, I noticed that my single-serving friends were now reclining in their seats, obviously weary from the nerve-wracking ordeal, but relaxed at its uneventful conclusion.
#13 Posted by aquaris on August 1, 2005 7:40:16 am
If I had any powers, and I mean real powers, I would have caught Osama Bin Laden, Mr Bush, Mr Blair,...and a couple of Others from Sudan and Saudi Arabia , preferably the hightest available in Saudi Arabia,
and would have tried All of them in the international terrorist court, for Crimes against Humanity.
..... a family feud, Osama wanting the Saudi Crown, Saudi`s asking for Bush`s help, and He then starting a WAR , on his One time Bossom Buddy and Bussiness Partner, OBL, and they all turning their Personal WARS to a Clash of Civilizations , and Butchering People every where, Be those by the Nuts called Suicide Bombers or by Carpet Bombing entire cities.
A very valid Question..? Why wasn`t any such things prior to say 9/11, After all, the muslims and non-muslims and every One was living with each other, without getting paranoid , and in relative peace.....???
#12 Posted by TheoVanGogh on August 1, 2005 7:39:35 am
Kaalchakra
Thanks for that - brilliantly said.
#11 Posted by KaalChakra on August 1, 2005 6:41:07 am
Mass manufacture of resentment is integral to supporting the global terrorist enterprize. It is also a collective process, in which everyone from the most liberal to the most violent pitches in, using all the skills at their command.
#10 Posted by friend on August 1, 2005 6:37:19 am
This ``Pardon, didn’t mean to kill you...`` has been happening for decades in our subcontinent.. Police encounter is a very well known and meekly tolerated phenomenon.
While we can attribute NewYork, London and Kashmir incidents to security paranoia, what is excuse of tolerating encounters within our society?
NY, London and Kashmir were at one time much safer than other parts of our subcontinent. Please blame Jehadis who cause this paranoia by their actions.
While we can attribute NewYork, London and Kashmir incidents to security paranoia, what is excuse of tolerating encounters within our society?
NY, London and Kashmir were at one time much safer than other parts of our subcontinent. Please blame Jehadis who cause this paranoia by their actions.
#9 Posted by TheoVanGogh on August 1, 2005 6:25:51 am
ally
Truly malicious cun*s are British Pakistani men who strap explosives to themselves and make halal meat out of fifty people in a few seconds - after them, the biggest malicious cu**s are the fascists who apologise and holler for those Nazis. There are many such people writhing about amongst the British Pakistani community.
Truly malicious cun*s are British Pakistani men who strap explosives to themselves and make halal meat out of fifty people in a few seconds - after them, the biggest malicious cu**s are the fascists who apologise and holler for those Nazis. There are many such people writhing about amongst the British Pakistani community.
#8 Posted by cayenne on August 1, 2005 5:53:08 am
Re: # 3
BeeJay
I`m sure she`s a wonderful person and has/is done/doing work for the upliftment of women in Pakistan.My comments were based solely on her words in this article and her attitude vis-a-vis India.It stinks and therefore she does too.Nuttin` personal.
BeeJay
I`m sure she`s a wonderful person and has/is done/doing work for the upliftment of women in Pakistan.My comments were based solely on her words in this article and her attitude vis-a-vis India.It stinks and therefore she does too.Nuttin` personal.
#6 Posted by paindupastry on August 1, 2005 5:42:30 am
well done beena.
keep up the good work!
let the truth set us all free!
keep up the good work!
let the truth set us all free!
#4 Posted by TRANCE_WARRIOR on August 1, 2005 3:35:55 am
Are u getting to the Point?
Calm down Beena...Isnt it too late on harping the same line that the ``Muslims are tortured everywhere...`` , but it is too late already.You can kill yourself but u can`t change ur IMAGE.
As image is not created in one day it takes alot of history (read ````bad`` one) to make a long lasting image.
I will like to point out why Pakistan is crying horace as it being called as the ``Groundswell of International Terrorism``. The reason is simple.They provided the ``human cannon fodder`` to the Global Jehad Factory and in return got the ``Jannat `` in other world and made ``hell`` out of their own land.
If still u do not accept the reality then God Help u keep in the same day dream.
pakistan can not survive on harping Jehad line they have to become secular and see the sense or the US will just ``eat it`` like it eat out ``Iraq``
Calm down Beena...Isnt it too late on harping the same line that the ``Muslims are tortured everywhere...`` , but it is too late already.You can kill yourself but u can`t change ur IMAGE.
As image is not created in one day it takes alot of history (read ````bad`` one) to make a long lasting image.
I will like to point out why Pakistan is crying horace as it being called as the ``Groundswell of International Terrorism``. The reason is simple.They provided the ``human cannon fodder`` to the Global Jehad Factory and in return got the ``Jannat `` in other world and made ``hell`` out of their own land.
If still u do not accept the reality then God Help u keep in the same day dream.
pakistan can not survive on harping Jehad line they have to become secular and see the sense or the US will just ``eat it`` like it eat out ``Iraq``
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