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Confronting Terror

Savail Hussain August 9, 2005

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#269 Posted by tahmed32 on August 14, 2005 7:06:09 am
further to #266: And one more thing, Mr. t. I think you should note Salims response #254 where he too makes a legitimate point - that is, while in effect calling for a ``hookah pani`` band on salim, you ignore the fact that there are others who have also written some pretty obnoxious stuff here.

We all learn from one another, mr. t. Mr. salim from you, you from mr. t, myself from both of you gentlemen and from other other folks on chowk (I enjoy your one liner responses to some chowk ranters, e.g.: ``Thank you, Arjun`` responses to arjun`s rantings about Pakistan, e.g.. And ``Coffee...`` to Abdul Hate echoboomboom who seems to have found a spider hole)
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#268 Posted by tahmed32 on August 14, 2005 6:31:45 am
masanamathu: In that case we are in full agreement - we should see people as individuals, not as members of some herd (the Indian Herd, the Pakistani Herd, the Muslim Herd, the Hindu Herd).

btw, what language is your nick from and what does it mean??
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#267 Posted by tahmed32 on August 14, 2005 6:29:16 am
Monsieur Salim: Please see my post to Mr. t below.

You had expressed in an earlier post your regret at my being ``attacked`` (chowk style) for the crime of exchanging civil posts with you. Not to worry, sir. I cant stop someone on chowk from writing abuses (as Atif did, e.g.), just as I cant stop a madman (or perhaps just a bum pretending to be a madman?) from shouting abuses to strangers on the street either (as I saw happen at the place I used to work at). But, like normal people do in such cases, you just walk on by ignoring such filth.

But enough about them. I hope you will seriously consider the two legitimate issues Mr. t raised (multiple nicks, which are unfair to other posters since they are confusing; and on not crossing the line with female posters - and ignoring provocations as well).

Finally, I read your kind words about me. I find them to be quite accurate. :-) (Just kidding). In fact, I am so pleased at reading them, I think I will ask you to contribute them to my obituary the occassion to write it will no doubt present itself one day.

Anyway, Sarimu San, enjoy your weekend.
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#266 Posted by tahmed32 on August 14, 2005 6:15:58 am
#251 That is all very well, Mr. t, but rather than do ``hookah paani band`` (i.e. avoid interactions which, unless I am mistaken, is what you would like me to do), I would much rather bring to Mr. Salim`s attention the fact that he crosses the line when addressing or referring to female posters. So let me use this opportunity to re-iterate that to Mr. Salim. I really hope he tries to control himself here (and ignore provocations that will no doubt continue from those who have nothing better to do) - since, as I said earlier, he is very intelligent (much more so than the ideology-driven posters on chowk who can only harp on their one-track party-line about the evil Pakistan or the evil west or some other bs) and can be genuinely funny and entertaining (a major reason many of us come to chowk to begin with).
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#265 Posted by premwalla on August 14, 2005 5:47:52 am
Aslam #264, {``Salim...you have the support of all Indians on chowk (except Mr. Jagadeesh Paaandu Ghatiwala) ...``}

Thank you very much for your kind support. You remind me of a good friend from Bangalore. :)

Pakis, unfortunately, are very adept at alienating their own. First the Hindus and Sikhs who lived in Pakiland, then the Bengalis, then the Ahmedis, then Mohajirs, then Ismailis, other Shias, and now Baluchis, Kashmiris, Saraikis, and even Gilgitis and Baltistanis. Alienating one more of their own is not a major concern for them. I, however, have become much more appreciative of the freedoms that India offers. Much more than the economic progress, even more than the political maturity, it is the freedom of expression and an atmosphere of tolerance that distinguish India from Pakiland. Mr. Temporal and his gang of corrupt pseudo-liberal Paki oligarchs have caused me to be clearly in the Indian camp.

Mr. Temporal talks about ``scaring Chowkies away.`` If you remember, he tormented Mr. Ozer Khalid so much, that this young writer no longer visits Chowk. Ozer, like me was part Turkish, and perhaps that is the problem. Temporal and his supporters may be just racists and bigots - after all they hail from the Land of the Pure. They can`t believe that people do marry across racial divides. Well, my friend, we need to remind this hallucinating hooligan that being a Paki is now the lowest level of human existence on the planet. These Pakis are reviled for their corruption, their tyranny, their terroristic activities, and their miserably failed state. Being a Paki is nothing to crow about. If I were to invent a religious, ethnic, and national indentity for myself, I certainly would not select being a Moose Limb Paki. I speak the truth and these bigots can`t stand it.

I just hope that Mushy keeps whipping his danda on these errant Pakis and keeps them in line. They want to restore the ``good old`` days of Paki ``democracy`` when the privileged few looted the country and moved their ill-gotten gains to overseas accounts and holdings. That is why I oppose them and that is why they have silenced me.

Thanks again,
Salim
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#264 Posted by Aslam777 on August 14, 2005 4:31:23 am
Salim...you have the support of all Indians on chowk (except Mr. Jagadeesh Paaandu Ghatiwala) ...
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#263 Posted by Soulat on August 13, 2005 10:02:32 pm

#262
He is not monogamous! he can discuss all his wives in different planets. But who is he and why is everyone worried about his wives so much?
This site is full of ``charcters`` and perhaps he is trying to fit in.

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#262 Posted by JagdeeshGodbole on August 13, 2005 9:19:22 pm
Re: # 261
Is that your turkish wife whom you recently married or the pakistani one with whom you used to throw chowk parties? :D
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#261 Posted by premwalla on August 13, 2005 9:07:22 pm
Mr. Temporal,
If your aim is to muzzle the viewpoint of those with whom you disagree then you may have succeeded. I am going to listen to my wife`s advice. She has told me that when most Pakis (and one Indian) dislike me so much, why do I waste my time on Chowk, only to have my messages deleted while those of my opponents are left intact?

From now on I will not participate in any threads or start any threads of my own on Chowk UP. I do reserve the right to take part in discussions on interesting topics on FP.

While you may have prevailed on Chowk, a medium that you and your cohorts apparently control, the same is not true of Pakistan and its state. I am glad to see that you and your kind are receiving similar treatment at the hands of the Paki establishment just as you shamelessly trample others` freedoms on Chowk.

May God cure you of your blatant hypocrisy.

Khuda Hafiz and Allah Smarladik.

Salim
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#260 Posted by JagdeeshGodbole on August 13, 2005 7:11:15 pm
Re: # 246
{You have abused several other Chowkies, including women.}

Dude, you ought to stop lying. Only chowkies I have ever abused are you, delhiwala and catchout. Only female I ever abused was mumbaichic which was a nickname of yours :)) :D
Are you sexually repressed?
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#259 Posted by temporal on August 13, 2005 4:41:32 pm
shanker sahib:

1: look at the top of the screen...below market street and gymkhana you will find unplugged....click on it....there are many headings....explore them....particularly `off-the-wall`....a lot of these delusional legends in their mind pollute there

2: this unabashed and un-repented multi nick character started abusing scouty first and you know scout...she gives it back as good as she receives...

3: also his loathsome vulgarity has turned away many decent chowkies away

4: this delusional character whines about being banned...all his post on main page are for everyone to see except the case of those nicks which were banned and posts deleted

rgds

t
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#258 Posted by hamidm2 on August 13, 2005 4:33:03 pm
who needs jerry springer !
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#257 Posted by shankar on August 13, 2005 3:59:25 pm
Re: # 251
temporal-ji,

Questions...

1) Yeh unplugged/shunplugged kya hota hai?

2) Has my choti behaniya, Mother Theresa scouty started using lewd, profane language...or are they simply trying to give me a heart attack?

Just shoot me!...this place has turned into a frikking lunatic asylum since I`ve been away:)

Lastly, people who come here with MULTIPLE nicks should be BANNED
Khuda Hafiz
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#256 Posted by shankar on August 13, 2005 3:54:01 pm
Re: # 247

hamidm,
{{what the heck !!!?........ all this is very confusing ....... can someone summarize the controversy in ten bullets ? ............ i hate to be in the dark ......}}

Isi baat per aap katlu log hamesha maar ka jaate hai!; yaar!

Thou art trying to figure out some bulls@hit catfight by immature 20-30-somethings on Chowk?!...about WHO said WHAT to WHOM?!

As an EXPERT on this age group (trust me; my feminazi daughter THINKS she is of that generation)?...let me give you MORE unsolicited advice...

STAY OUT OF IT!!!
Khaali-phokat dhemaag kharab ho jiyega!

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#255 Posted by premwalla on August 13, 2005 3:33:10 pm
Khamkhwa #250 {``this is what started it all...please don`t be confused with hiro who is salim who is also premwala...who is also a thousand other nicks...;) ``}

Again you lie and are blatantly engaged in yellow journalism. This is NOT what started it all. What started this particularly cycle of profanity was your action in causing my friends` and my messages and threads to be arbitrarily deleted. Because you and your cohorts, almost all Paki liberals assisted by one gay Mahratti from Pune, cannot debate issues successfully, you resort to deleting responses and preseting one-sided explanations. I do not blame you, of course, because this is typically Paki behavior. Let me explain and also try to return to the topic in hand:

The British citizens of Paki descent who bombed the London transportation system were not at all influenced by Pakis.
Kashmir belongs to Pakis because a majority of its people are Moose Limbs.
India started all the wars against Pakiland and Pakis won every one of them.
The Bengalis were committing horrible massacres in East Pakistan and they are traitors.
The US is wrong in being concerned about Pakis` leading role in planning and executing terrorism throughout the world.
Pakis who don`t agree with the Paki majority need to be muzzled and eliminated as traitors.
Ahmedis, Shias, Christians, Jews, Hindus are all kafirs and want to do Moose Limbs in.
Salim is NOT a Rajput, NOT a Turk, NOT Irani, NOT Shia, NOT educated, and definitely NOT a Paki. He must be something, but he is defintely not a Moose Limb and a Paki, otherwise he would not be speaking his mind and pointing out the truth.

Khamkhwa, you may have the power to regulate what is posted in threads and messages, but you CANNOT control what I say or do in real life. I am very disappointed by the so-called ``liberal and progressive`` Paki hypocrisy and I plan to expose it whereever and whenever I have the opportunity.

You are not so bright, are you?

Salim

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#254 Posted by premwalla on August 13, 2005 3:20:31 pm
#252. Mr. Temporal,
Please do not resort to insulting me with your abuse via alternate means by addressing Mr. Hamidm2 and Mr. Tahmed as if you were educating them about the imminent amoral atmosphere on Chowk.

Sir, and I use the word hesitatingly, you are a fraud, a hypocrite, and a charlatan. You accuse me of using profanity and have not offered a single word about the vulgarity used by Saminasha, Scout, Succubus, Jagdeesh (Tytler) Godbole aka JohnGalt, and Atif. You have been an amused spectator when Scout has fantasized about ``penises rotting and falling off.`` You were peculiarly silent when Saminasha referred to my young, religious wife as a ``Turkish whore.`` You were definitely one-sided in your deafening silence about the abuse Atif has been hurling at me, Mr. Tahmed, Mr. Montag, Mr. Arjun, and Mr. Delhiwalla. You have even encouraged the feces-mouthed Succubus in her abusive rage against my female relatives. Very recently I offered proof of dirty, filthy, and intolerable language posted by several so-called ``females`` such as Succubus, Scout, Saminasha, and Mizz Nadia. ``Women,`` who want to be treated with the respect they demand as the ``fairer`` sex, need to refrain from using unlady-like language with which they are often caught with their pants down. And then ``men,`` such as Atif aka Dr. Israr Ahmed and Jagdeesh (Tytler) Godbole aka JohnGalt, have been using abusive, horrible, and dirty language against other men and their female relatives. But belonging to the Brahmin cast of Chowk, they and their ``she-male`` pom pom girls are immune from being muzzled and being banned.

So, Mr. Hypocrite, now do you understand why some of us have to resort to multiple nics? By banning people with whom you and your cohorts disagree, by deleting their polite and reasonable messages, and by erasing their threads, you yourselves are forcing us to resort to multiple nics and evasive measures.

Mr. Temporal, you have often complained about the draconian measures employed by the military dictators in Pakiland. I must say I am pleased to note your plight and your consternation at being muzzled, being banned, and being arbitrarily barred from decision making in your wretched country. The Lahore Marathon, the Mukhtar Mai tragedy, the Dr. Shazia injustice are all testatments to your utter failure in being credible. When you practice intolerance yourself, it is natural that others will do unto you what you are doing to others. You deserve every Yahya, every Zia, every Musharraf that is imposed on your miserable lives.

Mr. Temporal, YOU HAVE NO CREDIBILITY WHATSOEVER, and please don`t ever compare yourself to Mr. Tahmed. I know Mr. Tahmed and believe me, Mr. Temporal, Sir, you are no Mr. Tahmed. He is brilliant, honest, just, compassionate, friendly, logical, and most of all not at all a hypocrite like you.

By the way, I do not care what you think. Go ahead and label me as you wish. You are so perceptive that you have determined or negated my ethnic, religious, national, and residential identitiies, or lack of them. You know, you are even more stupid than I gave you credit for.

Salim
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