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The Islamic Republic of Pakistan’s Destiny?

Haroon Shaikh August 14, 2005

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#14 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on August 15, 2005 9:03:47 am
As we struggle with our difficult chores, let us think of others who had to struggle with theirs and could only say ``TOO MANY PAKIS.``

1. Gen Arora, accepting the surrender of 93,000 enemy troops in East Pakiland - ``TOO MANY PAKIS.``
2. US Consul, looking at the long line of visa applicants - ``TOO MANY PAKIS.``
3. Bangaldeshi ambassador, looking at the long line of work permit applicants - ``TOO MANY PAKIS.``
4. Illegal Mexican immigrant, waiting in line to be deported - ``TOO MANY PAKIS.``
5. Kaura Singh RabRiwalla, distributing free recycled Indian condoms in Lahore - ``TOO MANY PAKIS.``
6. Confused passenger, arriving at LaGuardia Airport and seeing the long line of taxis - ``TOO MANY PAKIS.``
7. New Scotland Yard, looking at suicide bombing suspects at Elephant & Caste station - ``TOO MANY PAKIS.``
8. Besieged Al-Kayda recruiter at Paki University campus - ``TOO MANY PAKIS.``
9. Gen Mushy looking at the list of his own assassination suspects - ``TOO MANY PAKIS.``
10. St. Peter, at the Pearly Gates, welcoming new arrivals to heaven - ``WHERE ARE THE PAKIS?``

This should now balance my ``TOO MANY INDIANS`` list. :)
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#13 Posted by rsridhar on August 15, 2005 8:57:34 am
re: Pak`s destiny?
I do not have to wade thr` the long, complicated sentences and wish list to know Pak`s destiny. It is well known to impartial observers. If Pak does not change its course, keeps up its confrontation with India, continues to invest heavily in military hardware and defense equipments, and does not address basic issues of illiteracy, corruption, Pak will meet the same fate as the erstwhile military dictatorial state of Prussia. In other words, it will have a rollercoaster ride into the oblivion, out of geography books and into history.
Sridhar
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#12 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on August 15, 2005 8:40:07 am
Black Breeze #11, {``And Pakistan is not doing badly under Musharraf``}

Mere dost, that is exactly what I keep telling these ``pseudo-liberal and progressive`` Pakis, who want to bring back BB and Nawaz, that Mushy is doing a pretty good job.
Thank you for speaking the truth. :)
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#11 Posted by kalihawa on August 15, 2005 8:36:26 am
Re: # 8 Salim Saahib,

{``Have patience, we are getting there. :)``}

You are forgetting the intensity of competitiveness between the two nations. In sixties, under Ayub Khan Pakistan was running away with 6+ GDP growth while India struggling at 3 - 3.5 . And Pakistan is not doing badly under Musharraf.
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#10 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on August 15, 2005 8:05:12 am
#9, nefertiti, {``Cut a body into two pieces and that creates bleeding, festering parts maybe but certainly not twins...``}

Very well stated. All this talk about two and twins and your nic got me thinking ... :)
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#9 Posted by nefertiti on August 15, 2005 7:57:32 am
``India and Pakistan are two enstranged twins whose history now may have become hate-ridden because of the occupational policies of the former...``

Cut a body into two pieces and that creates bleeding, festering parts maybe but certainly not twins...
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#8 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on August 15, 2005 7:55:47 am
#7, Black Wind {``Until there is stark disparity between economies of the two nations I can’t see how these countries will reconcile each other``}

Have patience, we are getting there. :)
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#7 Posted by kalihawa on August 15, 2005 7:48:52 am
Until there is stark disparity between economies of the two nations I can’t see how these countries will reconcile each other. If West Germany hadn’t been overwhelmingly well off in contrast to East Germany, I don’t think East Germany would have been very keen to join West Germany.
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#6 Posted by ajay78 on August 15, 2005 4:53:06 am
``India and Pakistan are two enstranged twins whose history now may have become hate-ridden because of the occupational policies of the former...``

This guy can`t be serious!
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#5 Posted by MantoLives on August 14, 2005 10:26:04 pm
The solution is simple:

Restore the 1973 consensus constitution in its entirety- let the democracy work - the solution to bad democracy is more democracy.
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#4 Posted by ballukhan on August 14, 2005 8:50:07 pm
I wonder whether this pontificatory school essay should be up on this page!!!
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#3 Posted by KaalChakra on August 14, 2005 7:37:45 pm
Congratulations, Haroon, for making it to the FP. Look forward to seeing many more articles from you.
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#2 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on August 14, 2005 5:41:24 pm
Mr. Shaikh, {`` The Kashmir issue, the perceived abuse of Indian Muslims in India, and the descration of Islamic holy sites are three issues of primary importance to
most Pakistanis. The mismangement of Hindu holy sites in Pakistan and support for plebliscite in Kashmir are two issues, which can rile up any Indian.``}

You have articulated a very good case for thinking outside the box. The old Hindu/Muslim, Sharia Waria, and jihad/shihad stuff is not going anywhere. It is not a matter of Muslims or Hindus getting the upper hand. Just like there is no such thing as monolithic Hinduism, believe me there is no such thing as united Islam, the Ummah, or Muslim rule. In another forum, Mr. Ranjit has asked ``Can you imagine if India had remained united in 1947?`` Yes, many of us can. As one can easily determine after watching Mangal Pandey, that is exactly what the British feared and what they prevented from happening.

Jinnah, while himself an honest, intelligent, and able man, was blinded by his own vanity, his jealousy of Gandhiji, and the influence of powerful economic interests of the Moose Limb business community of Bombay. They wanted to create a ``homeland`` for Moose Limbs, where they would hold sway economically without competition from the baniyas. ``Islam khatray meN hai`` is a convenient slogan to rally the Moose Limb sheep into any course, even a suicidal one.

You are correct in pointing out that we need to rethink about what is important. The breakup of Pakistan in 1971 was a brilliant move on the part of Indira Gandhi and her government. This permanently shattered the concept of ``Pakistan`` and set the stage for further dismemberment. The sensible course for India now would be to deny Pakistan the ``Moose Limb`` card. India, as the second largest Moose Limb country in the world, should genuinely take the lead in promoting moderate and progressive Islam. There are similar minded countries such as Turkey, Afghanistan, Tunisia, Indonesia, Central Asian ``Stans,`` and Malaysia that will join India in countering the jihadi alliance of Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, and the Tally Ban. Once India`s position as the logical choice of a model for Moose Limb progress is established, many benefits will ensue. Kashmiris will proudly proclaim their Indian citizenship, Indian Moose Limbs will count their blessings, moderate Paki Moose Limbs will see the beacon as a welcome alternative to their own wretched society, and the Moose Limb world will stop paying attention to Pakis` religious blackmail.

The reintegration of Pakiland into an undivided India is what will undo the evils of this partition. I know it is a difficult thing to accept for both, but it is the sensible path.

Peace
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#1 Posted by KamranS on August 14, 2005 3:06:21 pm
Nice try Mr. Shaikh..simple and shallow! hope you do better next time.
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