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A Free Country

Chandana Banerjee August 15, 2005

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#50 Posted by harish_hyd on August 18, 2005 12:00:10 am
#45 by khamkhwa.

[...hey! that`s what i have been saying here...indians don`t care about 150 million muslims as in this ``article`` not a single muslim was found to give his opinion about the azadi-divas...or maybe they arent`s allowed to as in the case of this woman who is a dalit...;)]

Only a Paki can pontificate others on equality blissfully unaware of (or pretending that it doesn`t exist) the horrible conditions under which minorities live in his own backyward. Or is it that he is aware but accepts it because Islam sanctions the treatment meted out to the kafirs? Whatever!

Here`s an example of how religion is not a bar in India. If you have it in you, you can make it. Can you say the same about Pakiland? Eat your heart out.

The Aviator: On the wings of a dream, he inspires a community

Excerpts:

``What began as a personal passion to create an ultra-light aircraft landed Muzakkir fame, a formal engineering education and a job at public sector aircraft giant Hindustan Aeronautics Limited.``

``The then HAL chairman, N R Mohanty, visited Muzakkir’s house and immediately took a liking to the boy’s work. ‘‘I realised that he has a natural flair for aviation, that he has a fairly high IQ and that poverty alone prevents him from pursuing higher education,’’ says Mohanty.``

``Muzakkir joined HAL on December 17, 2004 to work on the prestigious Advanced Light Helicopter programme. He also signed up for a mechanical engineering course at the HKBK college in Bangalore last year.``

``‘‘In our Urdu schools, teachers now give the examples of cricketers Mohammed Kaif, Irfan Pathan and then Muzakkir to encourage the children to do well,’’ says Sajjida Bhanu, Muzakkir’s aunt and the headmistress of a government Urdu school.``
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#49 Posted by rsridhar on August 17, 2005 9:33:55 pm
re:#14 by harish_hyd
Yes, indeed. India has made progress. It is the second fastest growing economy in Asia (after China) and is expected to continue that way for many years. What concerns me is: is this growth benefitting everyone?
I agree with u that every Indian has a right to be proud. I never suggested otherwise.
Sridhar
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#48 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on August 17, 2005 10:38:58 am
#46, Shishapa,
Just give the troublemaker a token and let him take the train to Markham. :)
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#46 Posted by shishapa on August 17, 2005 8:28:54 am

How about Bollywood actors and actresses who are Muslims?
Are they tokens too? Or Azharuddin, Syed Kirmani, Irfan Pathan, Salim Durrani, are
they tokens too?


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#47 Posted by khamkhwa. on August 17, 2005 8:50:53 am
Re: # 46
... i didn`t know one needed government support and patronage to join film industry or the cricket team in india... i stand corrected...
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#44 Posted by harish_hyd on August 17, 2005 7:22:22 am
#20 by khamkhwa.

[...they always bite at the token muslim jibe...truth usually gets that reaction...;)]

Is it why Pakis spew venom when Indians (and the world) blame Pakistan for being the hub of international terrorism?

[BTW...no one has explained why not a single indian muslim was found from 150 million indian muslims to offer his views on the happy day...;)]

Because only Pakis get headaches from people`s religions. Indians just don`t care.
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#45 Posted by khamkhwa. on August 17, 2005 8:18:01 am
Re: # 44
[Indians just don`t care]
...hey! that`s what i have been saying here...indians don`t care about 150 million muslims as in this ``article`` not a single muslim was found to give his opinion about the azadi-divas...or maybe they arent`s allowed to as in the case of this woman who is a dalit...;)

``Dalit woman not allowed to hoist national flag
SUCHANDANA GUPTA

TIMES NEWS NETWORK [ WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 17, 2005 09:46:59 AM ]

BHOPAL: In the 58th year of our Independence, a sarpanch’s claim that she was not allowed to hoist the tricolour for coming from a backward caste makes one wonder if we are truly free. ...;)
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#43 Posted by harimau on August 17, 2005 5:51:19 am
Ref khamkhwa. #10

[...but then i forgot the biggest token..apj abudul kalam...;) ]

At least, Indians are willing to try out ``token`` Muslims as Chief Ministers, justices of the High Courts and the Supreme Court, governors and President.

Why is it that Pakistan is not willing or able to try out a ``token`` Hindu or Christian in any position of authority?

Try it. Their patriotism and love of their native country would put you to shame.
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#42 Posted by arstoo on August 16, 2005 6:54:33 pm
Ref#41 Mr Khamkhwa

Shhh....

Sirhanay Mir ke aheesta bolo
Abhi tuk rotay rotay so gaya hai
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#40 Posted by arstoo on August 16, 2005 5:04:59 pm
Ref#20 Mr Khamkhawa, you went on a tangent. This poem is not a cut paste job from any Indian Website. It came straight from my memory. I may tell you that beauty of any language lies in the beauty of the people who speak it.

Moreover I will share a secret with you, I cannot read or write Urdu. Still I remember most of Ghalib, Iqbal, Some of Mir, Daag, Zauk, Sahir etc. I am not Muslim either.

My broken mispronounced Urdu, enhance the beauty of Urdu Zillion fold as compared sanitised Urdu of formally educated people in Urdu. This is what I feel. You appreciate the beauty of Urdu. But I love the beauty of Urdu
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#41 Posted by khamkhwa. on August 16, 2005 5:17:57 pm
Re: # 40

wah! wah!!
mai se gharaz nishaat hai kiss roo siyah ko
ikk goona be-khudi mujhe din raat chahiye
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#39 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on August 16, 2005 3:13:02 pm
#38, {``read these laments from one of your fellow compatriots``}

TV JI,
Isn`t this a case of belt AND suspenders? What is a non-fellow compatriot? :)
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#38 Posted by tvarad on August 16, 2005 2:19:42 pm
#36,

Pakistanis like you should understand the concept of intellect. Lack of this singular trait is what has made Pakistanis the pariahs of the world. Don`t take my word for it: read these laments from one of your fellow compatriots:

http://www.dawn.com/weekly/mazdak/20050806.htm
http://www.dawn.com/weekly/mazdak/20050730.htm
http://www.dawn.com/weekly/mazdak/20050723.htm
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#28 Posted by dost_mittar on August 16, 2005 8:50:58 am
Montag:
``Gujarat killer Nazi India is SECULAR and DEMOCRACY? Is there bigger joke?``

With due respect, you are confusing the state with the people. Just because the Indian state is secular does not mean that its people are secular or even tolerant, or vice versa.
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#30 Posted by kaurasach on August 16, 2005 9:03:30 am
29,

Kanjars are a class of people who pimp their female family members (daughters, sisters, mothers, etc.). They are prostitutes by profession and historically serviced the society. The word is also used for people who have no character and sell their country, family etc. for money or selfish gains.
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#27 Posted by jang on August 16, 2005 8:07:19 am
421 Cr parcel acquisition of property in central bombay was done by raj thackrey (bal thackreys nephew) and manohar joshis son (NOT murali manohar joshis son). many similar old mill compounds were sold off to other developer groups. lokhandwala and rahejas and even D company of dawood are really the biggest names in development racket, this parcel is a tiny in comparison.

in past, this was a congress sarkar prerogative, now lower-middle-class shivsena gets its digs. congress sarkar starched khaddar luchas in past got parts of back-bay reclaimation, CIDCO (new bombay) etc. shivsena goons now have ligitimately BID for a sick mill land. no doubt the bank which underwrites this will go under, similar to the savings and loans banks, and bank of karad etc went under with harshad mehta...even mr trump got many of his underwriters go under.

in the interim, much infrastructure will be created in central bombay, and infrastructure creation jobs hindvi talks of. so its an interesting mixed bag.
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    #50 harish_hyd
    #49 rsridhar
    #48 Salim_Chauhan
    #46 shishapa
    #47 khamkhwa.
    #44 harish_hyd
    #45 khamkhwa.
    #43 harimau
    #42 arstoo
    #40 arstoo
    #41 khamkhwa.
    #39 Salim_Chauhan
    #38 tvarad
    #28 dost_mittar
    #30 kaurasach
    #27 jang
    #26 Montag
    #25 Salim_Chauhan
    #24 Salim_Chauhan
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    #22 dost_mittar
    #21 JagdeeshGodbole
    #20 khamkhwa.
    #32 tvarad
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    #37 Salim_Chauhan
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