Husain Haqqani calls for Pakistan’s Acceptance of Global Realities

Where is pakistan ?? there is Army every where this time, in business, civil empoyment, u name it and they are there. having no doubts in their competency and management skills Pakistan has surely a bright future.

Just look around we all are Pakistan. Unfortunately we always ask what this country has given to us but seldom tell what we have given to this country. Ý have no doubt what so ever that this country has a great future. We compare 59 years old country with countries like USA, UK etc which have hundreds of years history. the turmoils that they have been faced with is known to us all. Lets not only wait for the bright future rather work for the bright future. Our kids will certainly have the opportunity to say our forefathers have laid the foundation stone of this Excellent Country.INSHALLAH.

The ground realities are that Pakistan is missing out on globalization opportunities, outsourcing opportunities and consequently, opportunities to become a major player in world trade.

There are several reasons for this but basically they boil down to the fact that Pakistan never really had political stability. Musharraf probably has the chance of a lifetime to ensure his place in history. He can do that if he is able to create institutions that have credibility and those that outlast governments. Our judiciary needs to be stronger, our law and order institutions need to be strengthened, de-corrupted. Our educational institutions need to be enhanced. Many other reforms are required.

Its all possible if we stop believing in ruling at the barrel of a gun or on the butt of corrupt politicians.

#15 by one-world. on August 17, 2005 1:02pm PT

Nice try, but not very original...

A tip..replace the code in the pattern matched part to post to the cgi script that updates account information...

consider it your homework assignment...

SyedAhmed #10

`` Much like most Pakistani expatriates, Mr haqqani surely falls in the latter lot because as a member of the democratically elected Bhuttoo govt - his record is as dismal as those of his predecessors- and his very valid criticism of the Pakistan and pakistani people was very subdued whilst in power... ``

Being a member of failed government does not imply you are a dud. Mammohan Singh was very much associated with the license raj as a bureaucrat. He was exposed to the failings of the Indian economy. That helped when he went to a position to reform things.

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Listen the current dilemma amongst the muslims can be actually traced to the well known theological dispute between the freewillers and those who believe that the ``root`` and the ``final`` cause is the almighty. It is this stupid conflict (as exemplified in innumerable praises to the will of the mighty) that has created split personalities who find would find an ``exterior`` cause for every vile act of theirs............it is this clinical idea of pure and impure that creates religious maniacs with the notion that their world is somehow impure that needs cleansing from the eternal conspiracies against the pures........and the notion that we have to somehow struggle eternally to eliminate the vileness makes us full of hate for the very materialistic world that we so desperately enjoy.....................the moment we eschew non-sense metaphysics and relegate the notion of the almighty as the first cause (rathar than the FINAL cause) only that I would call that as an ACCEPTANCE of the reality and the dawning of the existential fact that all of us are RESPONSIBLE for our acts and no one else is (and hence no conspiracy theory can bail us out of our culpability).................................rest of the analyses about acceptance of any political reality is all irrelevant.................

How TYPICAL of Paki interactors...
dont like the message

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curse the messenger!
Keep it up...ustaaads...until the hard ``brick of REALITY`` hits you...BOING!!...on the skull..

On a related not, a Khaled Ahmed item from the world famous(in Pakistan) daily times..

ARY (July 15, 2005) Dr Shahid Masood talked to ex-ISI chief General (retd) Hameed Gul and physicist Dr Pervez Hoodbhoy on the issue of acquisition of nuclear weapons by states. Gul said that India was in great difficulty at Kargil because it could escalate only across the LoC, which would have brought in the big powers and the UN to prevent a possible nuclear war. The Kargil Operation was stopped because of the possession of nuclear weapons. The Soviet Union and the United States did not go to war because of the nuclear weapons. The USSR was defeated without fighting a war. He said like the old superpowers Pakistan and India, too, were engaged in a cold war. He said every nation that faced intimidation had the right to start developing nuclear weapons. He said India had evil plans. It was a savage (darinda) power ready to crush a weak (khargosh) country under its feet and become a hegemon in Asia. He said Iran had the right to make a bomb. Dr Hoodbhoy said he did not agree with Gul using the simile of darinda and khargosh as that spoiled the environment of peace South Asia needed to develop economically. He said there were eight nuclear-weapon powers and the rest of the 180 states were happy and peaceful without possessing weapons. Hoodbhoy then said that if Iraq possessed nuclear weapons America would have attacked it with nuclear weapons. Gul said if Iraq had acquired nuclear weapons it would never have been attacked, leave alone attacked with nuclear weapons. He said Israel was an artificial state with a limited shelf life. He said AQ Khan had an intellectual property right over the nuclear secrets allegedly stolen from Holland. He was Pakistan’s national hero. Pakistan had to have nuclear weapons because it was subjected to aggression three times and was broken up with aggression in 1971. He said Bhutto was a great patriot because he began to develop the nuclear weapons. Dr Masood asked why AQ Khan was caught while others involved in the black market were not. Hoodbhoy said he knew that some in Europe had been caught and punished.

Bringing in the big powers and the UN through Kargil was of no use. It should have been realised before the Operation. Kargil in a way conclusively defeated Pakistan and its Kashmir policy. The possession of nuclear weapons interdicted operations like Kargil, it did not allow them. During the Cold War, Khrushchev made the same mistake during the Cuban missiles crisis. Operation Kargil was Pakistan’s Pearl Harbour, followed by a quick defeat. It was also like Hameed Gul’s own Jalalabad Operation. The darinda-khargosh simile reveals the low IQ our generals sport in a society that falls for lesser. His equation of NPT-member Iran with Pakistan in the context of the right to make the bomb is pure nihilism. Even Iran doesn’t claim the right to make the nuclear bomb. If Israel has a limited shelf life, Pakistan had even less of it thanks to generals like Gul. Pakistan lost its wars, lost territory, and was undone in 1971; Israel won its wars and actually increased its territory. AQ Khan is not a hero, he is in danger because he was a part of the global nuclear black market. Pakistan was not subjected to aggression; it attacked India to get Kashmir. In East Pakistan, it faced civil war, which allowed India to walk in. Dr Masood should see the TV programmes the Germans frequently air to tell the world how they are punishing their Pakistan-linked nuclear exporters in real earnest.

Mr haqqani has impeccable credentials a political commentator. his ideas have strong merits and social commentary is often on the mark - Unfortunately Mr haqqani has also made a profession out of writing books and commentary which pander to his audience`s worst fears... A mullah led military in Pakistan that is the West`s worst nightmare - Although the situation is plausible its is also extremely unlikely - given the myopic stupidity
of the pakistani mullahs and equally fascistict tendencies of the Pakistani military. IN the meantime, Mr haqqani, like any hustler makes a quick buck selling books that exacerbate the political divide and inflame idiotic passions on both sides.

After All Mr haqqani is just trying to make a fast buck, like any other entreprenuer, without thought to the ramifications of his actions....It reminds me of the two local melas held here last week commerating their respective national days in the bay area ......

While the indian community in addition to entertainment had several stalls catering to food and dress, it also had booths that promoted charity, free medical and legal help to the poor in the local community, booths of asra and domestic violence, us companies hiring for india, etetc ... topics that are relevant to the community....

In stark contrast, the Pakistani melas were busy promoting eating samosas and biryani and dancing to the beat of balay balay.....

Much like most Pakistani expatriates, Mr haqqani surely falls in the latter lot because as a member of the democratically elected Bhuttoo govt - his record is as dismal as those of his predecessors- and his very valid criticism of the Pakistan and pakistani people was very subdued whilst in power...

teshah:
mashallah too. i had been talking to one of these ``uncles`` on phone recently and really could have cared less so... all i had to do was to just say mashallah and inshallah and then back to mashallah every now and then... and the ``conversation`` went so smoooth...! :-)

what kind of wig he is using nowdays? I hope he could get a better one after the sale of his recent book

Re: # 7

Why don`t you say `Inshallah`? It is the magic word in Pakland these days, from Mush to Shortcut downwards. Even a Paki pros would say, ``Allah ke fazal se, I am getting lot of customers these days``.

Will wonders never cease..Haqaani turning into an intellectual..!

#4 by Salim_Chauhan on August 15, 2005 1:31pm PT

Yes..I`m sure you felt like Neo when he came out of the matrix...Things aren`t as rosy as you imagined in the echo-chamber, but you`re better off in the long run....

I`m afraid most pakis will choose the blue pill...

#3, Arjun,
I say ``force open the doors to the echo chamber.`` :) Unless they are singing the national anthem that no one understands. It actually sounds better in the echo chamber. I know, I used to live in it, a few months ago.

Haqqani was very critical of the “glibness” of Pakistanis and their immediate denial of problems associated with them.



I watched his appearance on Book TV with Steve Coll and Robert Oakley......He said some interesting things about Pakistan`s support to militant Islamic jihadis....

The problem is: Most pakistanis live in the echo-chamber of self-delusion..Even after the indigenous freedom fighting groups have been banned and a bunch of pakis have been deported, they still hang on to the myth of the never-supported-jihad-jinnah-aug-11th-speech-quoting abdul paki...

the rest of the world lives outside the paki echo chamber of self-delusion...hence the disconnect..and the t-shirt with the paki flag...the shirt idea, i`m sure, was a huge hit in the echo chamber...but when you step outside the echo chamber wearing this t-shirt, it`s a one-way ticket to canuckistan or karachi..

Ras,
Thank you for sharing these obvious facts and words of wisdom. Unfortunately, instead of listening to facts, understanding issues, and discussing solutions, many Pakis tend to circle the wagons, silence the dissenters, and ostracize those who dare to utter the truth.

Is it any wonder that Pakis (whether right, left, or even center) are among the most intolerant people in the world?

As far as {``“Why are Pakistan’s literacy rates so low?” he asked. He said that outsiders cannot be blamed for that. He compared statistics on literacy rates in Pakistan with its neighbors before revisiting his main point.``}

May I suggest that the low literacy rate could be related to sending too many of our young students to study in UAE or other Arabic schools and madrassas. The Arabs have not advanced scholastically since the 12th century. :)

Ras,
Thank you for sharing these obvious facts and words of wisdom. Unfortunately, instead of listening to facts, understanding issues, and discussing solutions, many Pakis tend to circle the wagons, silence the dissenters, and ostracize those who dare to utter the truth.

Is it any wonder that Pakis (whether right, left, or even center) are among the most intolerant people in the world?

As far as {``“Why are Pakistan’s literacy rates so low?” he asked. He said that outsiders cannot be blamed for that. He compared statistics on literacy rates in Pakistan with its neighbors before revisiting his main point.``}

May I suggest that the low literacy rate could be related to sending too many of our young students to study in UAE or other Arabic schools and madrassas. The Arabs have not advanced scholastically since the 12th century. :)