Saudi Government to Demolish Prophet Muhammed’s home

Thanks, rajanjua.

I knew about the shia persecution, though recent reports suggest some relief, but did not know that they were not allowed freedom to practice their faith. Hence my question.

re: 124

doing fine dost-mittar - thanks.

shias and othe sunni sects (but especially the shia) are persecuted in saudi while the aulad of abdul aziz (bastards most of them - both figuratively and literaly) are living a life of obscene luxury from oil which comes from the shia area - i think w. made a big mistake - he should have gone south of kuwait.

r.a.janjua:

What brought this `Id ka Chaand` out of hiding? Hope you are doing okay?

``and these are the same people who do not allow practise of other sects of islam inside the kingdom let alone other religions``

Does this also apply to Shias, sitting over some rich Saudi oilfields?

re: 119

thanks tahmed

re: 122

the saudis were the first to raise their moral outrage on the news of marines flushing korans down the toilet in gitmo - and these are the same people who do not allow practise of other sects of islam inside the kingdom let alone other religions. there are no churches, temples, etc. in saudi arabia - if you are caught with religious texts of other religions (bible, etc.) you are in deep doo-doo. forget about taking icons like the cross or ganesh with you - you cant even practise your faith in the privacy of your home - some half a dozen or so pakistani christians are still missing - they were arrested for holding a service at a private residence - and yet they want a fully hooded picture on a u.s. state driving license for their women. these people are quite sick.

re: 26 ``Right now, I`d support an American invasion of Riyadh to topple the Saudis.``

there is nothing in riyadh, except some sorry excuses for humans called bedoos. the place you want to go is east of riyadh - the oilfields of ghawar, safaniyah, ain-dar shedgum, marjan, al-hasa in general. u.s. should sieze the oil fields and declare hijaz an international zone for muslims all over the world. the bedoos can go back to that hell-hole najd they call home.

re: 40 ``even the king was buried in an unmarked grave, in keeping with their own particular orthodoxy``

these people are obssessed with graves. when abdul aziz invaded hejaz with his ikhwan hordes, there was a serious debate on whether to blow up masjid-i-nabwi or not - i mean talk about biddat - three graves within a masjid - now that is a biddat for the wahabis - in the end they didnt have the guts to do it - they did destroy every other tomb - janat-ul-baqih is nothing but an array of unmarked mounds - thankfully there are some old maps made during the turkish rule which can be used to identify various sites.

re: 53 ``Thank God that in 1917, the retreating Turks took most of the portable Islamic relics back to Istanbul from Medina``

thank god for kemal pasha - who at least had the guts to look for alternatives to the nonsense accumulated by abdullahs over the centuries.

re: 54 ``How can we mobilize the Chowk community to spread the word and to take action?``

sorry to dissapoint you, but the ummah is quite impotent or baighairat or both - besides most muslim countries have been a saudi whore at some point in time in the last two decades.

Ref mohar11 #114

[The real question is - why are the Muslims from Morocco to Malysia NOT raising a huge hue and cry? Imagine if non-muslims did the demolition - threat of jihad would be flying all over the place.]

The demolition, in alikelihood, was done by a non-Muslim.

It would probably be a Filipina or Indian who drove the bulldozer.

Lesson #1: Advani should have hired an Ahmad in Ayodhya to drive a bulldozer instead of using a mob of karsevaks.

.......lofty art work destroyed and replaced with bathroom tiles in many gurudwaras.


Really?? What a shame. And now, I recall, some really very old temples in and around our village cleared many years ago to make space for new houses :(

It really hurts to think that my children will never know, not even be able to imagine, what was so very important to me in my childhood...

Amazingly detailed, impressive architecture, artwork....all gone without a trace.

This is what happens when illiterate stupid and idiot goons become heads of a religion....sikh leaders and priests have destroyed sikh heritage as a monkeys destroy a corn field.......lofty art work destroyed and replaced with bathroom tiles in many gurudwaras.

#118 ``(slavery was legal in saudi arabia until the sixties, if my memory serves me right).``

1962, to be precise.

why should one expect anything different from the saudis - these people are the most vulgarly primitive and culturly-challenged on the face of this earth (slavery was legal in saudi arabia until the sixties, if my memory serves me right). you talk about demolishing muhammad`s house - these bastards have, in the past demolished the ka`ba.

in about 50-70 years from now, the oil in al-hasa will be gone and these bedoos will go back to the desert where they belong along with their camels and that would be the end of the story. in the meantime what is more important is to let them know that there would be consequences if they continue to spread hate and ingnorance to the rest of the world.

#116, {``but is derived from Elohim which was what Abraham is supposed to have called god... ``}

Manto,
At least we agree on this one. :)

Also, as I pointed out in my earlier post on this topic, Jesus is reported to have said in Aramaic ``Ilahi, Ilahi, La ma sabakhtian`` while dying on the cross.

Allah must be related to Elohim, Ilahi

Salim

Re: # 34

Raw,

Actually the word ``Allah`` is not from Al Lath... but is derived from Elohim which was what Abraham is supposed to have called god...

Al-Lath actually is of later period... In the great pre-Islamic Arab pantheon Allah sits on top much while there are other deities under him...

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//...if Muslims from Morocco to Malysia are not raising a huge hue and cry about the demolition of the house, why should non-muslims?...//

The real question is - why are the Muslims from Morocco to Malysia NOT raising a huge hue and cry? Imagine if non-muslims did the demolition - threat of jihad would be flying all over the place.

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dost mittar: I think the whole thing is a fake. like the shroud of turin, hazratbal, and mullah omar`s sacred blanket which he swore was originally the property of the prophet muhammed. the toronto star article refers to the prophet receiving the Quran in this house - I at least never heard of that before, and always understood that it was in a cave where the Quran was revealed to him.