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#66 Posted by Ranger on August 27, 2005 12:10:35 pm
Re: # 49 ,
Dost-Mittar : ``Ranger:
Would you like to be born in your next birth in the family of night soil carriers so that you can get qualified for reserved seats?``
I couldn`t care less about my `next birth` . All I want is an assurance that a dalit guy getting 60% in his entrance test won`t get a given job instead of me even if I score 90% in the same test. If there is a victim of caste system , its me - an upper caste hindu. We are officially discriminated against by the Indian State. Jobs are very few in India. Decent college seats scarce. And I can only compete for 45% of these because the rest are reserved for dalits.
As an upper caste hindu , I am against caste system because I am a victim of caste system.
As for your question whether I would like to be born into a dalit family - You seem to assume all dalits are poor. I wouldn`t want to be born into poverty. However nothing beats being born into a family of say a dalit IAS/IFS officer. You get to enjoy all the privileges doled out by the Indian State and yet get reserved a nice seat in a decent college , and after that , a cushy job in the bureacracy without even making an effort for it.
Dost-Mittar : ``Ranger:
Would you like to be born in your next birth in the family of night soil carriers so that you can get qualified for reserved seats?``
I couldn`t care less about my `next birth` . All I want is an assurance that a dalit guy getting 60% in his entrance test won`t get a given job instead of me even if I score 90% in the same test. If there is a victim of caste system , its me - an upper caste hindu. We are officially discriminated against by the Indian State. Jobs are very few in India. Decent college seats scarce. And I can only compete for 45% of these because the rest are reserved for dalits.
As an upper caste hindu , I am against caste system because I am a victim of caste system.
As for your question whether I would like to be born into a dalit family - You seem to assume all dalits are poor. I wouldn`t want to be born into poverty. However nothing beats being born into a family of say a dalit IAS/IFS officer. You get to enjoy all the privileges doled out by the Indian State and yet get reserved a nice seat in a decent college , and after that , a cushy job in the bureacracy without even making an effort for it.
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#65 Posted by pmishra2 on August 27, 2005 11:42:13 am
#57 googlymoogly
You live in a dream world where you believe that by abusing people you can make change. The next step from this, of course, is to advocate use of violence to effect change.
Our left-wing friends specialize in this: first, abuse people who are in charge of things; when they react in anger and lash out, then say: there is nothing to be done but to kill them. It is the nature of the landlord to be ``fascist`` etc. This is what bhagwan Marx said etc. This is exactly the path you are going down.
I have challenged Mr. Nakli dalit 10 times in this forum to discuss the following:
(1) Why is 80% of violence on Dalits inflicted by their neighbors and other deprived groups?
How can this be countered? Why aren`t laws being enforced? How many dalits are entering the police force?
(2) Why aren`t Dalit groups actively engaged in improving education? I have surveyed more than a dozen groups and not a single one is raising funds or doing anything about it. If you look at their web sites (take a look at ambedkar.org) they are full of fancy theories about origin of dalits, bad bad hindus etc. BUT NOT A SINGLE RESOURCE ON CREATING SCHOOLS for dalit children.
But who cares for all this low-level stuff? Right? You are busy changing ``mindsets``, right? What a JOKE! You have no interest in constructive work (as the moron heh-heh says, why should I collect pennies for this and that) and you want to change mindsets? No one will ever respect you until they see that there is a positive attitude within yourself.
Among a certain class of ``progressive`` indians, learning a few long words like ``fascism`` and ``marxism`` passes for actual thinking. Your posts are a vivid demonstration of this type of spurious intellectual. Your best bet is to find a nice european liberal who will be impressed with your ramblings. They may give you some euros or dollars and send you to the UN. But in terms of actually making change happen you are a complete zero.
You live in a dream world where you believe that by abusing people you can make change. The next step from this, of course, is to advocate use of violence to effect change.
Our left-wing friends specialize in this: first, abuse people who are in charge of things; when they react in anger and lash out, then say: there is nothing to be done but to kill them. It is the nature of the landlord to be ``fascist`` etc. This is what bhagwan Marx said etc. This is exactly the path you are going down.
I have challenged Mr. Nakli dalit 10 times in this forum to discuss the following:
(1) Why is 80% of violence on Dalits inflicted by their neighbors and other deprived groups?
How can this be countered? Why aren`t laws being enforced? How many dalits are entering the police force?
(2) Why aren`t Dalit groups actively engaged in improving education? I have surveyed more than a dozen groups and not a single one is raising funds or doing anything about it. If you look at their web sites (take a look at ambedkar.org) they are full of fancy theories about origin of dalits, bad bad hindus etc. BUT NOT A SINGLE RESOURCE ON CREATING SCHOOLS for dalit children.
But who cares for all this low-level stuff? Right? You are busy changing ``mindsets``, right? What a JOKE! You have no interest in constructive work (as the moron heh-heh says, why should I collect pennies for this and that) and you want to change mindsets? No one will ever respect you until they see that there is a positive attitude within yourself.
Among a certain class of ``progressive`` indians, learning a few long words like ``fascism`` and ``marxism`` passes for actual thinking. Your posts are a vivid demonstration of this type of spurious intellectual. Your best bet is to find a nice european liberal who will be impressed with your ramblings. They may give you some euros or dollars and send you to the UN. But in terms of actually making change happen you are a complete zero.
#64 Posted by dost_mittar on August 27, 2005 10:59:45 am
googlymoogly:
So, how do you change the mindset of the upper-caste hindus? With the approach you have taken, I can see that you have antagonised a lot of upper caste hindus but have not changed the mindset of even a single person on this forum. And believe you me, these are the enlightened ones. Do I need to tell you that ordinary upper caste hindu is much more closed-minded than the sample you see at chowk?
So, how do you change the mindset of the upper-caste hindus? With the approach you have taken, I can see that you have antagonised a lot of upper caste hindus but have not changed the mindset of even a single person on this forum. And believe you me, these are the enlightened ones. Do I need to tell you that ordinary upper caste hindu is much more closed-minded than the sample you see at chowk?
#63 Posted by ajeya on August 27, 2005 9:34:31 am
Googly-Idiot aka Dalit-Mullah
Some of that shit has entered your brains. Now you are unsuitable for any other job.
Except for a Mullah`s job.
:-D
By the way, how do you explain your children`s low grades to your children? Do they believe you when you tell them that their low math grades is the upper-caste Hindus` fault?
:-D
Some of that shit has entered your brains. Now you are unsuitable for any other job.
Except for a Mullah`s job.
:-D
By the way, how do you explain your children`s low grades to your children? Do they believe you when you tell them that their low math grades is the upper-caste Hindus` fault?
:-D
#62 Posted by Dalit on August 27, 2005 9:23:11 am
Good post googly!
These people are clueless! Have no idea what the problems are but would like to solve them….hehehehehehe
Typical caste hindu mindset....hehehehe...they want to help dalit.....hehehehe....want to drop a couple of coins in the poor dalit`s bucket....heheheheh...
#61 Posted by googlymoogly on August 27, 2005 9:10:03 am
dost-mittar, here`s a question for you, pmishra and your ilk. Why is it that in the midst of numerous grossly racist posts by so many other people, in the midst of violence, hatred and discrimination directed at Dalits at all social levels, in the midst of the *approval* of racist hatred by many posters of this forum, your accusations of ``hatred`` are ALWAYS directed at the people who protest racism and casteism?? You`re like the folks who ignored the entire racist south to single out Dr. King for the accusation of hate. I never saw of pmishra you getting this vehement for any of the Dalit-hating posts. Something`s wrong with your mindset.
The mindset is what I want to see changed. You change pathologies by exposing their pathological nature. What is it that makes you unable to open your mouth against racism/casteism but only against those who protest it? What is it that makes you unable to tolerate a Dalit taking the intellectual lead in anything? Why always the need to falsify history, take the credit away from Dalits, be intellectually overbearing? You say you want to fight casteism? I`ll take you at your word, and show you what`s casteist about your attitude, pmishra`s attitude. Dalit gave very interesting and relevant information - he always does. Information about the many levels of prejudice Dalits face - from the physically violent to the psychologically violent. This is meant to show you aspects of caste-Hindu behaviour that are pathological, aspects of our society that are pathological, aspects of this ``Hindu-pride`` movement you all subscribe to that are pathological. It is easier to change once you see the pathological pattern clearly.
Instead of listening to this, taking note of it, asking why these pathologies exist in your minds and at all levels of socety the first thing all of you do is say ``Tut tut Dalit, let ME tell you what the problem REALLY is, you are Hateful, you are Stupid, you are Wrong, you are Illiterate, Uneducated etc etc, you Really Don`t Know Anything, let US define this problem``. So - you know better than Dalits who face this nonsense personally, better than Dalit activists, Dalit intellectuals, you know better than all these people how the problem should be framed and solved. That`s intellectual bullying at its worst! It shows a rankly un-egalitarian attitude - the utter inability to treat people as equals, to listen to people as equals, to even allow people to define the discrimination THEY, not you, face. Don`t you realize how deadly and loaded caste-Hindu intellectual bullying is? Don`t you know its sordid history?
Dalit will have to speak for himself, but MY aim is to point out your pathological behaviour, which sanctions and creates approval for the cruder physical terror Dalits face, which drastically affects their quality of life. Look at the crudity of the ``debate`` on reservations. Ever sat in a classroom and had a vicious and hostile teacher demean your contributions and intellect at every turn? Imagine this exclusion from learning perpetrated on generations and generations of people, BY generations and generations of people and think of how greedy and unfair the caste-Hindu hatred of reservations is. As if there was ever equality of opportunity for ``merit`` to be an issue at all!! Can you really speak of ``merit`` when even caste-Hindu retards get major preferential treatment over Dalit intellectuals? One set of people has to face racist slurs and hatred every single day, while the worst stupidities of the other set are overlooked. Merit indeed!! Doesn`t it bother you that some people think that thousands of years of reservations for caste-Hindus is OK, but 50 years of reservations for dalits is already ``too much``?
Look at the racist, hostile, anti-reservations rants here. If your conscience has no problem with the prevalence of such sentiments, then you are mentally ill! You and pmishra DON`T want to change anything or demolish casteism, you just want to acquire a ``liberal`` tag for yourselves, India and Hinduism, and you want to acquire it for cheap!!
People who DO have a conscience genuinely want to demolish casteism and stigmatize casteism so people will be as ashamed of it as they would be of pedophilia. Such people will not cheaply award the ``liberal`` tag to anyone, particularly not people who are mulishly resistant to having their own racism pointed out, and who prefer to grandstand and lecture the victims of racism instead.
The mindset is what I want to see changed. You change pathologies by exposing their pathological nature. What is it that makes you unable to open your mouth against racism/casteism but only against those who protest it? What is it that makes you unable to tolerate a Dalit taking the intellectual lead in anything? Why always the need to falsify history, take the credit away from Dalits, be intellectually overbearing? You say you want to fight casteism? I`ll take you at your word, and show you what`s casteist about your attitude, pmishra`s attitude. Dalit gave very interesting and relevant information - he always does. Information about the many levels of prejudice Dalits face - from the physically violent to the psychologically violent. This is meant to show you aspects of caste-Hindu behaviour that are pathological, aspects of our society that are pathological, aspects of this ``Hindu-pride`` movement you all subscribe to that are pathological. It is easier to change once you see the pathological pattern clearly.
Instead of listening to this, taking note of it, asking why these pathologies exist in your minds and at all levels of socety the first thing all of you do is say ``Tut tut Dalit, let ME tell you what the problem REALLY is, you are Hateful, you are Stupid, you are Wrong, you are Illiterate, Uneducated etc etc, you Really Don`t Know Anything, let US define this problem``. So - you know better than Dalits who face this nonsense personally, better than Dalit activists, Dalit intellectuals, you know better than all these people how the problem should be framed and solved. That`s intellectual bullying at its worst! It shows a rankly un-egalitarian attitude - the utter inability to treat people as equals, to listen to people as equals, to even allow people to define the discrimination THEY, not you, face. Don`t you realize how deadly and loaded caste-Hindu intellectual bullying is? Don`t you know its sordid history?
Dalit will have to speak for himself, but MY aim is to point out your pathological behaviour, which sanctions and creates approval for the cruder physical terror Dalits face, which drastically affects their quality of life. Look at the crudity of the ``debate`` on reservations. Ever sat in a classroom and had a vicious and hostile teacher demean your contributions and intellect at every turn? Imagine this exclusion from learning perpetrated on generations and generations of people, BY generations and generations of people and think of how greedy and unfair the caste-Hindu hatred of reservations is. As if there was ever equality of opportunity for ``merit`` to be an issue at all!! Can you really speak of ``merit`` when even caste-Hindu retards get major preferential treatment over Dalit intellectuals? One set of people has to face racist slurs and hatred every single day, while the worst stupidities of the other set are overlooked. Merit indeed!! Doesn`t it bother you that some people think that thousands of years of reservations for caste-Hindus is OK, but 50 years of reservations for dalits is already ``too much``?
Look at the racist, hostile, anti-reservations rants here. If your conscience has no problem with the prevalence of such sentiments, then you are mentally ill! You and pmishra DON`T want to change anything or demolish casteism, you just want to acquire a ``liberal`` tag for yourselves, India and Hinduism, and you want to acquire it for cheap!!
People who DO have a conscience genuinely want to demolish casteism and stigmatize casteism so people will be as ashamed of it as they would be of pedophilia. Such people will not cheaply award the ``liberal`` tag to anyone, particularly not people who are mulishly resistant to having their own racism pointed out, and who prefer to grandstand and lecture the victims of racism instead.
#60 Posted by Dalit on August 27, 2005 8:51:51 am
#58 by dost-mittar
“Aren`t you better off making alliance with those like pmishra”
Hehehehehe….no you don’t make alliances with people representing the RSS….hehehehehe…. give you benefit of doubt….hehehehe…let see how you read his good intention….hehehehe
#56 by pmishra2
“I am glad to see that this is in fact starting to happen in India. It is a striking aspect of the indian state that it put into place amends for historical wrongs starting in 1947 (20 years before the soooo advanced people in the west realized that they owed similar compensation to their own minorities).”
Discuss issues with this kind of ignorant?....hehehehe
Now here is an issue for him to discuss….hehehehe…let see how much brainfart he has to even understand what the issue is….hehehehe… he wants to discuss issues…hehehehe
“It is interesting that the Supreme Court has stuck down the provisions of the reservations for the marginalized but allowed special quota for the non-resident Indians? What does it means? That any person living abroad can get into these institutions but not the people who are living in India and living the life of the marginalized.”
Here is another one for this problem solver….hehehehehe…
“the government to fulfill the backlog of the quota reserve for Dalits in the Central government. Accordingly, there should have been 17.5% Dalit IAS officiers and 7.5% tribal IAS officers in the Central government but the situation is rather grim.”
The basic social issue is hindu mindset….hehehehe…they need to teach their kids the right things….hehehee…only then the mindset would change in the next three or four generation….until then….dalit economic rights should take precedence over everything else.... hehehehehe
#59 Posted by ajeya on August 27, 2005 7:44:21 am
Re: various by googly-ullah aka dalit-uddin
Islam is your way out.
You and Islam are made for each other.
By the way, how are your children`s grades? As compared to the upper-caste hindu children?
Are the upper caste hindus getting ``superior`` grades?
It`s not fair, I tell you!
:-)
Islam is your way out.
You and Islam are made for each other.
By the way, how are your children`s grades? As compared to the upper-caste hindu children?
Are the upper caste hindus getting ``superior`` grades?
It`s not fair, I tell you!
:-)
#58 Posted by dost_mittar on August 27, 2005 6:42:33 am
goodlymoogly:
Here is a question for you:
What is your agenda: to destroy casteism or to destroy upper caste Hindus? If it is the former, you have the support of all Hindus on this website with one or two notable exceptions. If it is the latter, could you please tell me how you intend to do it? Despite some significant gains in the last half century -gains which you are not willing to acknowledge anyway- power in India rests firmly in the hands of upper caste hindus. Are you in a position to take them on by saying you are out to destroy them? It is one thing to say that gross injustices exist and another to say, ``you are evil and I want to destroy you``. How are you any different from those sanghis who want to punish the current generation of Muslims for the acts of Nadir Shah or Aurangzeb? Aren`t you better off making alliance with those like pmishra who are willing to acknowledge the past misdeeds of their ancestors and are apparently eager to work with you to undo some of those injustices?
Here is a question for you:
What is your agenda: to destroy casteism or to destroy upper caste Hindus? If it is the former, you have the support of all Hindus on this website with one or two notable exceptions. If it is the latter, could you please tell me how you intend to do it? Despite some significant gains in the last half century -gains which you are not willing to acknowledge anyway- power in India rests firmly in the hands of upper caste hindus. Are you in a position to take them on by saying you are out to destroy them? It is one thing to say that gross injustices exist and another to say, ``you are evil and I want to destroy you``. How are you any different from those sanghis who want to punish the current generation of Muslims for the acts of Nadir Shah or Aurangzeb? Aren`t you better off making alliance with those like pmishra who are willing to acknowledge the past misdeeds of their ancestors and are apparently eager to work with you to undo some of those injustices?
#57 Posted by googlymoogly on August 27, 2005 6:05:46 am
Arjun_m, I`m not the poster named ``Dalit``, so please don`t include me in your revenge fantasies.
Pmishra, I`m sure you took a long time to write your inane post. Unfortunately, O Turbaned Head Clerk, its all a rehash of what Dr. Ambedkar and others said and set in motion ages ago... Building schools doesn`t erase the casteist, racist, overbearing mindset of people like you... Racism and Casteism require a different set of parameters to analyse and tackle, but nice job plagiarising and compiling.....
Pmishra, I`m sure you took a long time to write your inane post. Unfortunately, O Turbaned Head Clerk, its all a rehash of what Dr. Ambedkar and others said and set in motion ages ago... Building schools doesn`t erase the casteist, racist, overbearing mindset of people like you... Racism and Casteism require a different set of parameters to analyse and tackle, but nice job plagiarising and compiling.....
#56 Posted by pmishra2 on August 27, 2005 5:28:16 am
#54 googlymoogly = nakli dalit = hatemonger
WE all have experience of people like you who make a living out of hatred. Some of these people have become quite successful as politicians (e.g., advani, bal thackeray, karat) and netas so we understand why you think this is great. But just because you use some long words doesnt make you any different from a bajrang dal goon or a maoist extremist or any other divisive hate monger.
You can pass 10,000 resolutions in the UN but until we have good schools for all indians it wont make the slightest difference. You can parrot Manu smriti, Ambedkar, Karat, Marx all day and night and ``prove`` that hindus becomes fascist in their mothers womb and it still wont change a single thing. What will change things is when dalits (and tribals) and other backward sections have better jobs and a solid middle class. What will change things is when there are more dalits and tribals in our police and adminsitrative forces.
I am glad to see that this is in fact starting to happen in India. It is a striking aspect of the indian state that it put into place amends for historical wrongs starting in 1947 (20 years before the soooo advanced people in the west realized that they owed similar compensation to their own minorities).
But why should you care about these silly common-sense things? Why bother about trivial things like building schools, getting more backward youth into college, more dalit small businesses etc. These are boring and useless issues that are somebody elses problem. You are a great thinker and you should continue to educate the world by issuing certificates on ``fascism`` and ``progressive`` and similar hot-air.
WE all have experience of people like you who make a living out of hatred. Some of these people have become quite successful as politicians (e.g., advani, bal thackeray, karat) and netas so we understand why you think this is great. But just because you use some long words doesnt make you any different from a bajrang dal goon or a maoist extremist or any other divisive hate monger.
You can pass 10,000 resolutions in the UN but until we have good schools for all indians it wont make the slightest difference. You can parrot Manu smriti, Ambedkar, Karat, Marx all day and night and ``prove`` that hindus becomes fascist in their mothers womb and it still wont change a single thing. What will change things is when dalits (and tribals) and other backward sections have better jobs and a solid middle class. What will change things is when there are more dalits and tribals in our police and adminsitrative forces.
I am glad to see that this is in fact starting to happen in India. It is a striking aspect of the indian state that it put into place amends for historical wrongs starting in 1947 (20 years before the soooo advanced people in the west realized that they owed similar compensation to their own minorities).
But why should you care about these silly common-sense things? Why bother about trivial things like building schools, getting more backward youth into college, more dalit small businesses etc. These are boring and useless issues that are somebody elses problem. You are a great thinker and you should continue to educate the world by issuing certificates on ``fascism`` and ``progressive`` and similar hot-air.
#55 Posted by arjun_m on August 27, 2005 3:55:12 am
Hello Dalit....how`re your ``corporate servers`` doing? The ones I hacked into to get your personal information....hehehe....
Watch out for people execting CGI scripts on your servers....
#54 Posted by googlymoogly on August 27, 2005 12:45:07 am
Pmisra, of course, you believe you`ve said the most intelligent thing on this forum so far. You remind me of lonely men on elevators who smile proudly after they fart.
>>>Nakli Dalit
Oh really? Did a divine being whisper this knowledge in your ear? I guess they`re giving ISI agents the Collected Works of Dr. Ambedkar to read, eh?? And how do we know YOU`RE not a German neo-Nazi trolling this site? Nakli Indian, that`s what YOU are... One of those megalomaniac Brahmin NRIs who want to keep their fascist grip over the Indian scene, even when they`re citizens of some other country...
>>>>>>is a well known demagogue and hate monger; using hateful and ultimately racist language he wants to provoke people.
Yeah riiiiiight - and you`re not racist at all to pounce on the only Dalit perspective and scream ``fake!``... I guess ``real`` dalits for you, would not, as you angrily say ``use long words``...maybe ``real dalits``, the kind you approve of, and award the supreme gift of recognition to, wear tattered clothes and sweep houses, being careful not to use long words and anger Pandoo Mishra.....
>>>The real question is education and self-improvement.
Of course, only P(andoo) Mishra has the right to tell us, in his own words, what the REAL issue is... Need a clerk Sahib? Need verygood precis writer Sahib? Pandoo Mishra at your disposal Sahib, fullsummingup done in 3 languages.... Dr. Ambedkar is wrong, Dalit is wrong, P Mishra`s plagiarised inanities are RIGHT.
>>>How can we make pie larger for EVERYBODY?
*SOB* How indeed? First, call all Dalits and BCs who protest racism, (especially while using long words) ``fake``, and of course, racist. Just as the KKK called Dr. Martin Luther King a racist, pmishra`s followers must call anti-racists, racists. PMishra`s methods of course include a Hindu form of ``dawa``, which Dalit has rather humorously rejected in the past, which must explain PMishra`s ire.
>>>>But these bevakoofs dont care.
Sniff, truly! Only Pmishra cares. Dalits just care about oppressing themselves, while using long words. How to make pie larger for EVERYBODY?? (while keeping the proportion of division the same??) Pmishra to the rescue Sahib!
>>>Nakli Dalit
Oh really? Did a divine being whisper this knowledge in your ear? I guess they`re giving ISI agents the Collected Works of Dr. Ambedkar to read, eh?? And how do we know YOU`RE not a German neo-Nazi trolling this site? Nakli Indian, that`s what YOU are... One of those megalomaniac Brahmin NRIs who want to keep their fascist grip over the Indian scene, even when they`re citizens of some other country...
>>>>>>is a well known demagogue and hate monger; using hateful and ultimately racist language he wants to provoke people.
Yeah riiiiiight - and you`re not racist at all to pounce on the only Dalit perspective and scream ``fake!``... I guess ``real`` dalits for you, would not, as you angrily say ``use long words``...maybe ``real dalits``, the kind you approve of, and award the supreme gift of recognition to, wear tattered clothes and sweep houses, being careful not to use long words and anger Pandoo Mishra.....
>>>The real question is education and self-improvement.
Of course, only P(andoo) Mishra has the right to tell us, in his own words, what the REAL issue is... Need a clerk Sahib? Need verygood precis writer Sahib? Pandoo Mishra at your disposal Sahib, fullsummingup done in 3 languages.... Dr. Ambedkar is wrong, Dalit is wrong, P Mishra`s plagiarised inanities are RIGHT.
>>>How can we make pie larger for EVERYBODY?
*SOB* How indeed? First, call all Dalits and BCs who protest racism, (especially while using long words) ``fake``, and of course, racist. Just as the KKK called Dr. Martin Luther King a racist, pmishra`s followers must call anti-racists, racists. PMishra`s methods of course include a Hindu form of ``dawa``, which Dalit has rather humorously rejected in the past, which must explain PMishra`s ire.
>>>>But these bevakoofs dont care.
Sniff, truly! Only Pmishra cares. Dalits just care about oppressing themselves, while using long words. How to make pie larger for EVERYBODY?? (while keeping the proportion of division the same??) Pmishra to the rescue Sahib!
#53 Posted by googlymoogly on August 26, 2005 9:20:33 pm
>>>most of them are racists and shtups of the first order
True dat! They are known worldwide for this. The reason Indians are detested all over Africa, in Fiji, Trinidad and Tobago, Jamaica is that other ethnic groups are very familiar with their racism... I`ve had Africans from the Caribbean tell me that among Indians, the Hindus are always the worst racists, much worse than whites. Muslims and Christians are not so bad. I`ve been on African-American forums and Indians are always the worst racists with the most foul mouths. Even the rednecks don`t descend to the same crude levels.... So other folks also know all about caste-Hindu pathologies...
Durban was good, highlighted Indian apartheid - slow, sure steps - steady documentation of abuses and racism is needed... The violence Muslims faced at VHP hands is what Dalits have been facing at caste-Hindu hands for centuries.
Caste Hindus are very good fascist material, excellent ethnic cleansers. They have centuries of practice at dehumanizing people, terrorising people, using techniques of shunning, exclusion, carefully calibrated hate...
It is, as Dalit said, almost genetic...
True dat! They are known worldwide for this. The reason Indians are detested all over Africa, in Fiji, Trinidad and Tobago, Jamaica is that other ethnic groups are very familiar with their racism... I`ve had Africans from the Caribbean tell me that among Indians, the Hindus are always the worst racists, much worse than whites. Muslims and Christians are not so bad. I`ve been on African-American forums and Indians are always the worst racists with the most foul mouths. Even the rednecks don`t descend to the same crude levels.... So other folks also know all about caste-Hindu pathologies...
Durban was good, highlighted Indian apartheid - slow, sure steps - steady documentation of abuses and racism is needed... The violence Muslims faced at VHP hands is what Dalits have been facing at caste-Hindu hands for centuries.
Caste Hindus are very good fascist material, excellent ethnic cleansers. They have centuries of practice at dehumanizing people, terrorising people, using techniques of shunning, exclusion, carefully calibrated hate...
It is, as Dalit said, almost genetic...
#52 Posted by shishapa on August 26, 2005 8:14:22 pm
Re # 51
``Modi visa denial ``
I do not care whether Modi could come to USA or not but what was achieved by
denying him US Visa? What purpose did it accomplish?
Just asking a question or two.
#51 Posted by googlymoogly on August 26, 2005 6:47:35 pm
I must admit to baiting Sanghis into airing their fantasies of murder on forums in the past. I put them all into my reports - all the activists who worked on the Modi visa denial found Sanghi rantings online so useful. We couldn`t believe these sorry retards would be so open about their hate! Heheheee - look where it got them...
The casteist rantings will have a similar fate :) :)...
The casteist rantings will have a similar fate :) :)...
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- masadi: banneditem writes "Ras, In my... Three Cups of Tea
- masadi: He says a few... Three Cups of Tea
- masadi: BTW if by some... Three Cups of Tea
- masadi: So the CIA sends... Three Cups of Tea
- pinku: Good job by some... Terrorism Accused: Is Legal
