Behind the Iron Purdah

Re: # 131
Turkey is way ahead of many Muslim countries; if Pakistan in the next 10-15 years can progress to where turkey is now that should be a big achievement.

What I wrote about brits and germans moving there big time, it’s mostly retired folks, you know the dream of many north European is to have a house or a villa on the Mediterranean coast. Turkey may go down the road of Spain with over development.

I think there is a very slim chance of turkey becoming a full EU member, there seems to be a lot of opposition in EU against turkey, well the European will have to make their mind up soon, either to let the turks in or start having more bambinos.

Re: # 152

For men like these I propose a new law: If a woman complains about harassment of any kind ..... mental, psychological or physical from any man ...... no matter even if it`s a lie ....
do the following things to the man:
1. 3 cops .... should bring him in the middle of a busy chowk (not this one) and hit him till the passerbys ask the cops to stop.
2. Secondly have him wear a burqa for the rest of his living life. (strictly imposed)
3. If it was a physical abuse, have him castrated, and publicize it.
4. Lastly, every woman should carry a small knife and a baton will have the right to kill any abuser on the spot. This will be not be tried in the court of law.

Please vote YES on proposition 153.

Re: # 148

Not the towel, sir, the toilet paper.

You don`t get enough, Sheikh Sahib.

Re: # 147

``And the dancing is very provocative. She is dancing, hands over head, elbows bent, head turning from left to right, and back, and back, her chest flung violently out on the 2 and the 4, the 2 and the 4. And parts attached to her chest are vibrating in slight delay, creating a sensuously syncopated boom chucka chucka, boom chucka chucka. But before you ladies get me arrested for what I’m thinking, let me ask for some help from the guys. We have 50,000 heterosexual guys, all different nationalities, all different religions, all different backgrounds, watching this girl. What are 49,936 of them thinking about? Baseball? I think not.

In the year 1 million BC, there was no game playing. Everyone knew what the dance meant. No mixed messages in Fred Flintstone’s day. Here’s a scenario. There’s 25 women from the village down by the river, pounding loin cloths with rocks, while the men wait in the village, scratching their stomachs, resting up for their next encounter with the wooly mammoth, trying to look good for something. All of a sudden, a young cave girl jumps up from her washing duties. Hands over head, elbows bent, head turning from left to right, and back, and back, she is thrusting her chest violently on the 2 and the 4, the 2 and the 4. Suddenly, a man in the village jumps up, nose in the air.


It’s coming from the river! It’s the miracle of procreation about to work it’s magic. Now we know what the men are good for. He rushes to the stream, nose in the air. She is thrusting more violently now (boom chucka chucka, boom chucka chucka). He better get in there quick or she will finish without him. So he clubs her on the head, drags her back to the cave, finishes the ritual, and now here we are, going to singles dances and reading this crap (boom chucka chucka, boom chucka chucka)!!!!``

- SS

samir sahib # 143:

Keep debating that issue ....

it takes two to tango

and since you have thrown in the towel.........again......

;)

rgds

t

sheikh sahib

Some ``fundamentalist`` language that we children and ignorant people are not supposed to understand? :)

Re: # 145

chucka boom boom chucka boom boom chucka boom boom
boom ...... boom ..... boom

Samir Sheikh bhai # 143

``Pragmatism,`` ``practicality,``

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brother, I couldn`t stop laughing, and it would be unfair to not let you know. :)

re:#130 by Romair
There is no way to prove that Indian students did what u claim except that u are either bluffing or u are smoking pot again.
Or may be u just attract the worst crowd. Remember, like attracts like?
I have met many ``indian looking`` people in US who, when confronted with their nationality, told me they were Indians. Soon, i discovered they were Pakis. This happened once in YMCA where i used to go some years ago. Happened again in my work place where we get students (many Pakis) due to some affiliation with AGK University. One of them told me she studied in Punjab, India. Her name was a giveaway. She knew next to nothing about Indian Punjab.
So, my question is: why are Pakis so ashamed of their true identity?
Sridhar

Re: # 134

Miriam,

Keep debating that issue ....
And when you reach a conclusion please let me know too ..... my e-mail address is pragmatism@practicality.com

-Samir Shaikh

Bina:

All your concerns are very valid.

[On the one hand, we are mothers, daughters, and sisters, the most respected beings according to our religion; on the other hand, with honor killings, forced marriages, and domestic violence, you’d think we were animals that need to be kept in cages, bred according to the whims of our owners, and culled when we have outlived our usefulness. On the one hand Pakistani women are becoming Air Force pilots; on the other, sold as sex slaves.]

The above extremes and contradictions are indeed extremely disturbing. You cannot even apply a generic formula(of religion or culture) here expecting similar results in all cases. Even in one neighborhood, each household may nurture completely different views on basic women`s rights. There is no true freedom and independent identity for women in the Pakistani Social System. There are exceptions but those exceptions are very few and far between.

On second thoughts: Each culture has its own priorities. Giving women an identity and equal rights has never been the priority of the Pakistani Society. When we do not find the cultural world being fair and just, we jump towards the religion for some solace. After all, Islam gives a lot of rights to women and all the good stuff that we have been reading and hearing since our childhood. Who are the practitioners of that Islam? Who likes to practice the fair values of the religion?

Eureka!! I have invented the solution to the pardah that will make BOTH women and mullahs happy. Provided below is the new fashion device for mullahs and jamaatiyaas: by putting this on, they will not be forced to stare at women on the street. (Any man caught staring at women on the street - as happens in Pakistan - will be required to put this on for the next 30 days first time, 60 days if caught again, and so on). Women will be happy because they will not need to wear the pardah. One drawback: Hijabi women will be unhappy because they will no longer be able to make their fashion statement and flaunt their holiness.

Blinders

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Mullah

= Peace on earth ``